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My 4850 died and although I just sent it in yesterday i've been thinking about getting a new card. A lot of the games I have say nvidia beforehand and i was thinking about trying out a GTX 280. because I have an AMD processor, is it better to get a 4870? or should i just wait a month till I get it back and keep the 4850?
I have an AMD Phenom x4 9850 processor.

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I made the switch from X2 6000 and a 8800 GTS 640mb card to a 1GB 4870 and a quad X4 955 and never looked back, big improvement. Everyone I talk to says yes they are optimized for each other, work together better. Only thing you will miss is PhysX in games, not a big deal to me. Im waiting on ATi's announcement this Thursday on their DX11 cards, the 5870 in particular and see the differences.

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^ The statement above is false. Ati cards dont work better on amd cpu's. An amd and intel equivalent processor would give you the same result. I bet you a amd phenom 2 x4 and a 4870 would get beat buy a i7 with a 4870. (only because there in a different performance level)

So if both companies cpu's are in the same class you would gain the same results. No special treatment with amd/ati.


Message edited by invisik on 09-06-2009 at 05:58:39 PM
Reply to invisik

ok. thanks for answering!

Reply to jjfish64

soldier37 wrote :

Everyone I talk to says yes they are optimized for each other, work together better.



Everybody you talk to is wrong.

Reply to turboflame

AMD would like you to think so.... but not so much.

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Reply to annisman

well since amd owns ati hey could very well optimise the gpu+cpu interface

Reply to obsidian86
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older drivers were "shady" when it came to crossfire scaling on the intel processors, but w/ 9.8 its good as gone

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obsidian86 wrote :

well since amd owns ati hey could very well optimise the gpu+cpu interface



I dont think they can just optimize it like that. They need to increase there work done per cycle on the cpu. They are falling behind intel.

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jlear3 wrote :

older drivers were "shady" when it came to crossfire scaling on the intel processors, but w/ 9.8 its good as gone



Bollocks.

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Reply to Strangestranger

google ati fusion gpcpu hybrid its using amd an ati tech

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http://www.modreactor.com/english/ [...] mrise.html

look at all those results in depth and look at the cat drivers and tell me thats bollocks psycho.

i looked into it cuz i switched from 955 to 920 and saw a few reviews with similar resulst, and somewhere on here people were talking about it too

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obsidian86 wrote :

google ati fusion gpcpu hybrid its using amd an ati tech



I believe all there doing is building a gpu and cpu built on one chip. There only able to fuse low end gpu onto the cpu. Not sure how much the performance would change then having a discrete standalone card.

Reply to invisik

jlear3 wrote :

http://www.modreactor.com/english/ [...] mrise.html

look at all those results in depth and look at the cat drivers and tell me thats bollocks psycho.

i looked into it cuz i switched from 955 to 920 and saw a few reviews with similar resulst, and somewhere on here people were talking about it too



Yeah, but there results are clearly wrong as I get perfect scaling in games like crysis and have done for quite a few driver revisions.

That is one site using very weird labeling of graphs and again, their results don't match my own as far as scaling goes in crysis.

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did you use both a amd and intel equivalent on same-ish-spex with same results on multiple drivers? even the older ones?

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Reply to jlear3

Nope, if you didn't read my post, I said I get perfect scaling in crysis, i.e without crossfire 15 with 30.

You can't improve on that, how can there be issues with intel cpu's and scaling if I get double the fps?

Seriously, the idea of AMD doing that makes no sense. If it was the case, why haven't every major site been grilling amd about it and it not making headline news and spawning hundreds of forum threads?

Also, in that review you posted, they had systems with different processors running using only one resolution without any attempt to use any analysis at all.

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Reply to Strangestranger
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yeah, but i read a few sites in agreement with what i said, otherwise i would have not said it, obviously you have a much better understanding than i and you are l33t

i got pooned no doubt

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Reply to jlear3

Oh, please post these sites and some evidence, I find it difficult to imagine how you can test such a thing.

I mean how can you isolate the driver in a test setup like that?

I suppose you would have to use an nvidia setup to remove the ati element to first try and guage the cpu's abilities to make sure that they match up as close as possible, a stock speed cpu like in that test you linked to is no use and it would have to be calibrated per game as well.

Then you would have to swap over to a fresh install and test it again using the ati cards and even then, could you be sure it was the case?

I know alot of idiots abound the internet who have purported this sort of thing for years and twist things to suit their causes, so you have to be careful.

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thanks +1

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