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August 17, 2009 10:40:09 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week BUDGET RANGE: 300-500

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Music, movies, games, internet, some school work but not much

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, dvd drive, graphics card, sound card, hard drive.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: i need a case, motherboard, cpu and more ram

OVERCLOCKING: not sure
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: what?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: the set up i have now is a gateway gt5220 that i upgraded in high school. i have an nvidia 8600 gts, philips dvd burner, 250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, and a creative x-fi soundblaster sound card. i'm looking to upgrade the motherboard and processor but my tiny case was limiting so im looking for a new one of those too.
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the case: COOLER MASTER Storm Scout

cpu: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200

mb: ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

ram: ram

thermal compound: click

plus a static bracelet



The only things I've ever done to a computer were put in some RAM, graphics card and sound card. The list of above stuff I kinda just figured out on my own so if you wouldn't mind doublechecking to make sure I'm not going to screw anything up I'd appreciate it. Thanks
August 17, 2009 11:04:17 PM

Two things:

1.) Every new component will work together
2.) Please confirm if HDD & DVD are SATA or IDE, since you are limited to IDE connections on the MOBO.

Another note, a AM3 build might fit your needs better, due to more of an upgrade path
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August 18, 2009 12:18:18 AM

Different fabrication techniques and processor generations. The 945 is the newer one, it runs faster, cooler, and supports DDR3 memory.

Asus makes very good motherboards.
August 18, 2009 12:50:25 AM

zjmaniak said:
2. IDE

can you tell me the difference between different quadcores? for example AMD Phenom 9350e Agena 2.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 65WI Quad-Core Processor and
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

and what brand of motherboard should i get? somebody told me asus was the best but i'm completely new to all of this so i'm trying to get several opinions.

I would recommending getting a new HDD. You will see a faster system overall with a SATA hard drive, plus it will help with your cable management.

^+1 hunter315's comments.
August 18, 2009 12:51:54 AM

The AMD combo will perform better and last longer as you will be able to upgrade the processor in that motherboard in a few years likely, where as there will be no new processors coming out for socket 775. I assume this is the combo you were refering to?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
August 18, 2009 1:18:50 AM

so it sounds like the winning combo but i'd like to stay around 400 total. but i think the cpu might be just out of my price range. i really think that mb will work well. since my graphics card is the nvidia 8600 gtc oc, should i upgrade that while i'm at it? remember, though, i only NEED a case, mb and cpu. anything like heatsinks or ram has to be included in that 400 bucks.

what if i went with the same set up but AMD Phenom 9350e Agena 2.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 65W Quad-Core Processor instead of the 945. that way i could get a new graphics card, depending on whether y'all think i need one or not. with the mb in the amd combo i listed above.
this ram Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PVS34G1600LLK
this case COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

and then possibly a heatsink for the cpu.
graphics card?
thoughts?
August 18, 2009 1:38:56 AM

I would go with either the x3 720 or x2 545 instead of the 9350e. Also, the Scout is a great case but I would recommend getting the Antec 300 or Cooler Master 932 and use the money saved to put towards a GPU.
August 18, 2009 3:13:03 AM

well i'm set on a black and red case and the only one i can find cheaper is only 13 bucks cheaper. why should i go with less cores? being the rookie here that just doesn't make sense to me. why is that?

so let's say i decide to splurge. i can get the scout case, AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX945WFGIBOX, ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard, Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PVS34G1600LLK, thermal paste, and a static wristband, with shipping, for just under 500. what do you think of that set up? keeping in mind that would use my old nvidia 8600 gts oc graphics card.
August 18, 2009 3:19:06 AM

You are giving up 1 core, for a more modern processor, that runs faster, cooler, and has the ability to use DDR3. Most things are also unable to use all 4 cores, there is very little difference in games between the performance of the 720x3 and the 955x4 because most games are dual threaded anyway. The 720 will provide better all around performance even in some quad threaded applications.
August 18, 2009 3:29:00 AM

good enough for me haha. so imagine i get the 720x3 but the same set up i mentioned just above. how's that sound? new graphics card needed?
August 18, 2009 3:34:08 AM

new graphics card wouldnt hurt, consider an ATI card as they are significantly cheaper for the same level of performance. A 1GB 4850 like this one would do significantly better than the 8600GTS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It might throw you over 500 total but it will give you significantly better detail levels while still maintaining playable frame rate.
August 18, 2009 3:45:40 AM

that looks pretty good. what kind of wattage am i going to need to power all these toys?
August 20, 2009 11:16:21 AM

anybody have any idea?
August 20, 2009 4:17:32 PM

zjmaniak said:
anybody have any idea?

PC Power & Cooling PPCT1200ESA 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm hoping you realize the first power supply was a joke!! [:mousemonkey:5] You system should be good with a 450w to 650w PSU from Antec, Corsair, PC Power&Cooling, OCZ... etc..
August 20, 2009 4:36:23 PM

tecmo34 said:
PC Power & Cooling PPCT1200ESA 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm hoping you realize the first power supply was a joke!! [:mousemonkey:5] You system should be good with a 450w to 650w PSU from Antec, Corsair, PC Power&Cooling, OCZ... etc..


you sure that 1200 watt will be enough :o  wouldn he need one for every part :lol:  so one for the board one for the 4850 an one for all the rest thats 3 but get 4 just in case :kaola:  bt this would also do :D  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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