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Paolo Nicole   08-18-2009 at 05:01:40 PM

Hi,Guys
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within probably Ocotober
Budget: I'm only 14 so my highest would be $1150
Usage:Mostly Heavy Gaming.
Parts Not Required:Mouse,LCD,Keyboard,OS
Preferred Website for The Parts: newegg.com or tigerdirect.com
Part Preferences:Anything Compatible with AMD CPU's
OC'ing:A little bit of OC'ing
CrossFire:Yes
Additional Comments:I was planning on making a AMD base computer cause my cousin got his new "i7" base computer cause my uncle works for Intel so he got the $1k i7 for only about $250-400 at most and I want something to compete with his new Cumputer so I did a little research and here is my choices.Also any suggestions on better parts would be appreciated just keep it under $1150


CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103692
I don't know which one of 955 or 965 is better but I pick 965

MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131392
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128387

Graphics Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150360
I can only but 1 4890 or should i got 2 4770?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102835
This one is from Sapphire -4770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814103077
And this one is from Diamond -4770,I don't know which one of them is better but could someone tell me which one I would buy?

Memory
Don't know any good cards that are compatible with the MoBo.Any Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148433
that or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148337
Both are Seagate Barracuda 7200,Any suggestions other than Seagate?

Power Supply
No clue about this,I would love suggestions

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0HAF%20932
also
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0VH8000BWS
I don't know how the compatibility on Case and MoBo so I'm not sure if the MoBo is 100% compatible with the case.

I would Love any of your Suggestion and Tips.

Thanks You in Advance

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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   08-18-2009 at 05:33:03 PM
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This build would make an excellent gaming rig at your budget, but recommendations will probably change considerably by October. I would come back a couple weeks before your planned build and ask for advice again. Computer hardware changes so quickly that what' recommended today most likely won't be what's recommended next month.

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197 $109.99

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103692 $249.00

GIGABYTE GA-MA790FXT-UD5P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128377 $174.99

Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PVS34G1600LLK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820220285 $84.99

SAPPHIRE 100269HDMI Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102852 $194.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] wd6401aals $74.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=750tx $119.99 - $20.00 MIR

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151188 $24.99

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003 $36.60 - $10.00 MIR

Total - $1,070.53 - $30.00 MIR's

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Bronze Home Brew badge tecmo34   08-18-2009 at 06:00:04 PM
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^+1 shortstuff_mt's build, which is very similar to my AM3 gamer build in my signature thread.

The one thing I would add, which was hinted at, is in Oct. the new DX11 cards from ATI will be out. This may allow you to buy a better card at the same price or get two current cards for less do to price drops. Also, the i5 will be out in September, so they will play into the price factor for an AM3 build or might provide a better alternative.

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Paolo Nicole   08-18-2009 at 10:38:23 PM
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Thanks for the Info,I notice you pick 1 XFX 4890 over the 2 4770 cause I can always buy another 4890 in the future.And also is the i5 release this End of September ,the discontinued i7 not sure if it was 920 or 940 but those really gonna make a Big Impact with AMD?And also is the new ATI release be better than the 4890?
And I also Heard AMD is gonna release a phenom II 975 not sure what URL i read it from but it might be possible...

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Silver Home Brew badge hunter315   08-18-2009 at 10:52:45 PM
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Yes, the i5 will shift the prices of the processors on both sides, AMD has to keep things priced competitively. The new graphics card due out are a new generation so they will be faster and cooler, but a bit more expensive. The 975 wont be worth it unless they do a new stepping. All of the Phenom II chips are based off of the 955/965 and all have about the same overclocking head room, a 975 wont be much better unless they change something in the design.

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Silver Home Brew badge shortstuff_mt   08-18-2009 at 10:53:40 PM
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All information on unreleased hardware is just speculation and rumors until the NDA lifts and proper benchmarks can be run by reputable sites.

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Yoosty   08-18-2009 at 10:56:50 PM
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Paolo Nicole wrote :

Thanks for the Info,I notice you pick 1 XFX 4890 over the 2 4770 cause I can always buy another 4890 in the future.And also is the i5 release this End of September ,the discontinued i7 not sure if it was 920 or 940 but those really gonna make a Big Impact with AMD?And also is the new ATI release be better than the 4890?
And I also Heard AMD is gonna release a phenom II 975 not sure what URL i read it from but it might be possible...

The Core i7 will still be around as Intel High end.

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masterasia   08-18-2009 at 11:07:33 PM
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Love the Cooler Master HAF case. For the price of the Phenom II 965, you can get build an i7 rig, unless you have something against Intel? I just picked up an i7 920 from Microcenter for $199 + tax. The motherboard and ram prices have gone down drastically over the past few months.

I've been using the Western Digital Black hard drives. I have 3 640 in Raid-0 and another 2 in RAID-1. They are blazing fast. Faster than my Raptor Drive.

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Paolo Nicole   08-21-2009 at 10:22:35 AM
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Sorry if I haven't replayed sooner but i was out of town.
So I got new question,Is the P2 965 BE same as 955 BE?also I would probably need a Water cooling system rather than air cause it seems to be cooler,So any good water cooling vendors around that is also compatible with all of shortstuff_mt's suggested parts?
And lastly I also wanna know a good i7 920 build that is 1000-1150 cause I'm thingking of building them both.

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masterasia   08-21-2009 at 08:51:24 PM
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Paolo Nicole wrote :

Sorry if I haven't replayed sooner but i was out of town.
So I got new question,Is the P2 965 BE same as 955 BE?also I would probably need a Water cooling system rather than air cause it seems to be cooler,So any good water cooling vendors around that is also compatible with all of shortstuff_mt's suggested parts?
And lastly I also wanna know a good i7 920 build that is 1000-1150 cause I'm thingking of building them both.



Most people including me think that the 965 and 955 Phenom II are the same. It's not worth the extra $50 for 200 lousy Mhz.
You don't need water cooling if you plan to stay under 4.0 ghz. But if you do, Danger Den and Switftech are pretty decent. They make
water cooling systems that are highly customizable. The Corsair H20 just came out. For $70, it's pretty decent but not that impressive because
you can get the same results with air cooling.

For an i7 Build I have

Processor: i7 920 ($200 at Mircocenter)
Motherboard: Foxconn Bloodrage ($250 on NewEgg) ($10 Rebate)
Ram: 6gigs Mushkin Redline ($190 on Newegg)
CoolerMaster Scout ($100 on Newegg)
PSU: Corsair Modular 750 watt PSU ($165 on Newegg)
Hard Drive: 640gig WD Caviar Black ($65 on Newegg)
Heatsink: CoolerMaster V8 heatsink/fan ($55 on Newegg)
Graphics: EVGA GTX 260 ($180 on Newegg) ($30 rebate)
DVD: Optical Drive ($25 on Newegg)
Other: Newegg Cash back (-$20)

Total: $1230 ($1170 after Rebates and Casback)


Message edited by masterasia on 08-21-2009 at 08:55:07 PM
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