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amislog   09-09-2009 at 02:41:54 AM

What's the best replacement/upgrade for my AGP graohics card, without upgrading my Neo 430 power supply? What about a PCI-E? (I have an Asrock mb capable of handling either AGP or PCI-E)

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djcoolmasterx   09-09-2009 at 03:09:55 AM

The motherboard is presumably a 775Dual-VSTA in which case the PCI-E port is limited to x4 link width which is about 1GB/s which is the same as the AGP X8 bus.

So you may aswell go for a PCI-E card so that you can use it when you finally decide to upgrade your motherboard.

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amislog   09-09-2009 at 05:01:39 AM

Thanks for the info.

The mb is a 939Dual-SATA2 with one PCIE x 16 and one PCIE x 1, as well as one AGP slot at 1.5 v, 8x/4x .
I'm running an AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core 4800+.
It's not a bad system, but the NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT has started giving me blue screens lately.

What would be the best graphics card to go to without exceeding the limits of the Neo430 power supply? I'm really concerned and confused about all the different requirements I see for modern cards.

(I'll be building up a whole new system next year, but I want to keep this one running for other purposes.)

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alikum   09-09-2009 at 05:22:03 AM

Well, blue screens may not be caused by your graphics card alone. It could be insufficient power or components overheating. I'd recommend that you first change the power supply. It's not a good brand and you're only betting against the odds with it. Sure it is rated at 430 but is it peak or continuous? Also, keep in mind as as power supplies age, they become less efficient, so do the capacitors within it. First, get a new power supply, Corsair VX400 recommended. See if that solves your problems.

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amislog   09-09-2009 at 05:37:58 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. If I get a new power supply, tho', I guess it would be a lot more powerful than the Neo430 and I might as well accommodate a more powerful graphics card, as well..
The blue screen says things like check for graphics driver updates, and nothing about power, so iIassumed it was the card dying.

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MRFS   09-09-2009 at 06:16:51 AM

Check out these Radeon AGP 4650 and 4670 models:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0%20series

 


I just checked the ASUS Radeon AGP 4650
and the HIS Radeon AGP 4670 (see above):
both have a 4-pin Molex connector for extra input power --
something to consider when upgrading to the latest AGP video cards.

 


MRFS

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djcoolmasterx   09-09-2009 at 03:41:54 PM

Oooh, didn't know about the 939Dual-SATA2.

As for a PSU I can recommend the the Corsair 400W.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] air%20400w

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amislog   09-09-2009 at 05:38:08 PM

MRFS wrote :

Check out these Radeon AGP 4650 and 4670 models:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0%20series


I just checked the ASUS Radeon AGP 4650
and the HIS Radeon AGP 4670 (see above):
both have a 4-pin Molex connector for extra input power --
something to consider when upgrading to the latest AGP video cards.


MRFS



Thanks for your input.
Looks like some folks had trouble with the Radeons, which reflects my experience several cards ago.

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amislog   09-09-2009 at 05:39:54 PM

djcoolmasterx wrote :

Oooh, didn't know about the 939Dual-SATA2.

As for a PSU I can recommend the the Corsair 400W.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] air%20400w




Looks like a quorum in favor of Corsair! Thanks.

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djcoolmasterx   09-09-2009 at 05:40:13 PM

Don't buy an AGP card, get a PCI-E, The AGP bus is much slower and is not included on modern motherboards.

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amislog   09-09-2009 at 05:46:07 PM

djcoolmasterx wrote :

Don't buy an AGP card, get a PCI-E, The AGP bus is much slower and is not included on modern motherboards.




Thanks for your suggestion. The question is: which one would be compatible with my Neo430 power supply? Obviously not one of the newest cards with their high power and multiple connector requirements.

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djcoolmasterx   09-09-2009 at 05:48:31 PM

Not all the new cards need an additional power connector.

Infact the PCI-E ATI HD4670 doesnt need one at all, so yes it would be compatible and would perform better then the AGP one.

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djcoolmasterx   09-09-2009 at 06:01:12 PM

Infact with the Corsair 400w you could go up to a 4850 or 4770.

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