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August 19, 2009 6:15:54 PM

Hey gang. I was ready to pull the trigger on a new build using socket 775, but i'm thinking I may want to go i7 instead.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ASAP

BUDGET RANGE: US$600-$900

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, video editing, watching movies, surfing the internet, general house stuff like budgeting

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, LG Blu-ray drive with DVD-RW capabilities, BenQ DVD-RW drive, Creative Labs sound card, SATAII hard drives, Corsair HX1000W PSU, E8500 CPU if I stay with socket 775.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: NewEgg, TigerDirect, Amazon (I have GC's for all of these to help with $$)

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel CPU's, Asus mobos, Cosmos S case

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

I am set on the Cosmos S case. I'm just trying to decide if I should go i7 or socket 775? If I go socket 775 I have an E8500 processor. If I go i7, that adds to the cost, but as much as I hate to say "future-proofing" in the PC world, I'd like some headroom to be able to add memory, upgrade CPU, etc if needed in a year or two. I do not anticipate replacing this system for at least 3-4 years.

Any advice would be helpful. I was recently looking at the Asus Rampage Extreme to pair with my E8500 cpu and I was thinking of getting a pair of HD 4870's in crossfire mode, but I keep thinking I'm buying into a dead end with the socket 775.

Thanks everyone.

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August 19, 2009 6:22:51 PM

Well currently I have Core2 775 set up. I do alot of gaming. I just ordered an EVGA X58 LE, CORE i7 920, 6gbs RAM, and a GTX260. I should have it tomarrow.


My Current Rig is an Asus Striker EXtreme , Core2 E6550, 4gbs of DDR2, and 8800GTS 640MB GFX card.

Both systems will be running VISTA 64

Ill let you know tomarrow how Crysis runs.

Also i think my total bill was around 800 bucks for the upgrade . and that was before rebates. www.tigerdirect.com
August 19, 2009 6:27:34 PM

simple math core 2 at 1ghz = i7 at 400mhz
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August 19, 2009 6:43:00 PM

Im expecting the i7 to slaughter my old set-up . Similar to when i went from AMD 939 socket with 7800gtx to Core 2 e6300, with 8800gts. On the plus side too going to the core2 platform lasted me about 3 years plus. Really the only games that challenge my current setup is Crysis and GTAIV. Besides that my Core2 still walks over anything else. Hopefully i will have the same luck with i7.
August 19, 2009 6:50:46 PM

The i7 will probably push the limits of your $900 max. You could get out pretty cheap sticking with your E8500. The other bad thing about socket &&% is that its out of production, and has no upgrade path. If you want a true upgrade, go with an AMD X3 720 (faster than you E8500) or X4 945/955, a good AM3 mobo and RAM, and a good video card, ie. 4850 1GB or a 4870 depending on what resolution you game at. This should keep you closer towards the lower end of your budget.
August 19, 2009 7:32:32 PM

I used to buy AMD then i got jacked on 939 socket when it just disappeared . They moved to socket AM2. and now finally 3 years later AMD almost is at par with Intel again ( with there Penryns). To bad an i7 beats any socket AM3 chip in about 70% of various bench test. For the last 3 years Intel has been ontop. Its always back and forth. Either way with Tech these days there is always new product being released quarterly. Its lose lose either way.

Right now I would go with i7. Or wait and see what i5 offers, and as i posted before. I spent less than 800$ making the full conversion with a videocard to i7.

In the last 3-4 years Intel has treated me right. Professionally and Personally. I made the jump over to Intel when i saw the e6300 entry lvl core2 run about 8% slower than an FX-62(which i believe at the time was AMD's flagship chip on the AM2 Socket.) In Sandrasoft.
August 19, 2009 8:24:05 PM

The point is, those are benchies. Will the i7 beat the AMD chips? Certainly. Will you notice a difference while playing games or editing video? Nope. Well, I guess maybe if you took a stopwatch to it.

Granted, the E8500 may bench faster, but the (maybe) noticeable difference with the X3 will be in multi-tasking. The other point about the E8500 is the socket 775 is a dead end. If you want the best money can buy, and can afford it, go for the i7. If you want best bang for the buck, AMD is the way to go.
August 19, 2009 8:36:16 PM

The wya I am looking at it with the 775 is I could spend $600-700 on a dead socket or spend $800-900 for an i7. I guess it's just a matter of which i7 board I want to go with. I am willing to spend between $200and $250 on the mobo, but I can't go above that or the i7 idea is out the window.
August 19, 2009 9:23:16 PM

Here's what I come up with using your case.

Combo:
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My gosh man, is that the correct case? Grand total shipped is $1018.44. Can shave maybe $40 off with a 4850 or equivilant ATI card. Can come in under budget with a solid $100 case or less. Plenty of good ones out there in that price range. I went with the Gigabyte mobo because that's a helluva combo deal.
August 19, 2009 9:27:33 PM

if you are spending 8-900 on an i7 for gaming you are going to get a poor computer .

There just isnt enough left in the budget for a decent gfx card that would match the power of the i7

definitely dont buy 775

consider AMD , or hold off for a couple of weeks for i5 , and see if that works out better and cheaper
August 19, 2009 9:50:10 PM

AMDThunder said:
Here's what I come up with using your case.
COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My gosh man, is that the correct case? Grand total shipped is $1018.44. Can shave maybe $40 off with a 4850 or equivilant ATI card. Can come in under budget with a solid $100 case or less. Plenty of good ones out there in that price range. I went with the Gigabyte mobo because that's a helluva combo deal.



Yeah, it's a big case but I love it. As with everything else discussed though, I'm open for suggestions. Keeep in mind though that I am pretty picky with my cases. I don't want a cheesy plastic case nor do I think the Corsair PSU will fit in just anything. The PSU is pretty big to begin with. I was considering the Coolermaster HAF 922 which is a mid-tower case, but I just don't think it will have the room inside that I'm looking for. Anyone have the 922 that wishes to comment on it?
August 19, 2009 9:52:53 PM

the 922 is bout 15% smaller but still has plenty of room for anything
August 19, 2009 10:07:43 PM

My setup:

Antec 1200 Full ATX Case (With Side and Middle Fan)
750W Corsair PSU
EVGA x58 A-1 SLI Motherboard
Core i7 920 CPU D0 @ 4.0 (AIR)
Cogage True Spirit CPU Cooler
OCZ Platinum 1600 DDR3 OCZ3P1600LV6GK
EVGA GTX 260 SuperClocked Core 216 SLI'd (2X)
WD 1 TB Black
August 19, 2009 11:24:39 PM

"if you are spending 8-900 on an i7 for gaming you are going to get a poor computer .

There just isnt enough left in the budget for a decent gfx card that would match the power of the i7

definitely dont buy 775

consider AMD , or hold off for a couple of weeks for i5 , and see if that works out better and cheaper"

Outlander , I also purchased a videocard with that 800$ and granted its not a 280 or 285. It will still crush like a boss. Right now its pointless toget a highend card. The 260 is still a enthusiast videocard . With DX11 around the corner i chose to hold off on the 280. I did want something to hold me over since my 8800 GTS is starting to show its age.
August 19, 2009 11:27:19 PM

And BTW my i7 kit was at my door when i got home from work today. Just installed Vista in about 10-15 minutes only running on 2gbs of RAM since u cant install pre service pack 1 Vista with more than 2gbs without BSOD. Doing updates now as I type this.
August 20, 2009 12:11:50 PM

Well, after i got things up and running last night the only thing i really could put on the machine was 3d Mark Vantage, since my Crysis disk doesnt work anymore. My previous score was between p5 and p6000ish, With my new i7 build i about crapped myself. It was around p11 grand!!! I will have to bench it again since while i was doing the test i was installing GTAIV, HL2, and Dawn of War 2 in Steam. That was on Stock settings without overclocking. Really no need to overclock that thing its retarded fast.
August 20, 2009 12:19:25 PM

Also i recommend probley putting the machine into a Full-tower case. My CM Centurion barley can fit that damn monster of a GTX260 in it. The damn videocard touches the HDD bay lmao. I almost could not put my 2nd HDD in.

People also said that i7's run really hot and all this stuff on user reviews on Tiger. It runs about the same temp as my Conroe did. The Heatsink and the CPU is about 20% bigger than a 775 chip.