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Anonymous
October 20, 2011 7:57:02 PM

I plan on buying a Rasa 750 RX360 WC kit, and I wanted to add two GPU blocks into it for my two 6970's that I'm buying in my new rig setup.

-Do I need a 2nd reservoir/pump?
-How would I do the looping? (visuals would be really helpful)
-What 2nd radiator should I buy (size/brand)?
(I plan to OC my CPU to 4.0-4.3, and possibly OC my 6970's as well.)

-Since I'm buying a HAF X 942, where should I place my 2nd radiator? I was either thinking about mounting it on the back or in front behind the 230mm LED fan.

-Also, a very dumb question but does it matter what side the fans are on? or do the fans need to be facing towards the inside hardware when they're mounted on the radiator or vice versa? I've never really figured it out.


Also, Rubix is probably going to tear me apart because I'm asking this stuff, considering he blew his whole day helping me yesterday with watercooling... lol

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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 8:09:34 PM

Nope, Rubix will be glad to see that you are asking before potentially wasting money/ trashing your Rig :) 
for adding the cards you'll need suitable blocks for them ofc, and 2x fittings per block and more tubing
why not add the RX240 as the second rad?
if you only have fans on one side, then research push and pull methods on the web, both are used, and sometimes even push/pull where the rads is the filling in a fan sandwich :p 
as for placement, hmmmm,
where is the 360 going?
if on top, then you could use some mounting legs to 'stack' the rads,
so 3x fans on the bottom, then the 360, then mounts onto two fans then the 240 sat atop the lot, it'd look stepped if you can imagine that?
thats how I'd do it hehe
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Anonymous
October 20, 2011 8:27:01 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
Nope, Rubix will be glad to see that you are asking before potentially wasting money/ trashing your Rig :) 
for adding the cards you'll need suitable blocks for them ofc, and 2x fittings per block and more tubing
why not add the RX240 as the second rad?
if you only have fans on one side, then research push and pull methods on the web, both are used, and sometimes even push/pull where the rads is the filling in a fan sandwich :p 
as for placement, hmmmm,
where is the 360 going?
if on top, then you could use some mounting legs to 'stack' the rads,
so 3x fans on the bottom, then the 360, then mounts onto two fans then the 240 sat atop the lot, it'd look stepped if you can imagine that?
thats how I'd do it hehe
Moto


Ha yea Rubix told me that yesterday.

-Love the fan sandwich idea but that just seems so.... hazardous? haha.

-What about just having red LED 120mm x3 fans at the top with a 360 rad under it? Then throwing a 240rad behind red LED 120mm x2 fans in front where the original 230mm LED fan was? (boiler1990 encourages me to tear into some fresh steel to fit an extra 10mm)

-Also, the stacking idea at the top would be awkward due to pushing/pulling? or not be as effective?
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a b K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 8:48:16 PM

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-What about just having red LED 120mm x3 fans at the top with a 360 rad under it? Then throwing a 240rad behind red LED 120mm x2 fans in front where the original 230mm LED fan was? (boiler1990 encourages me to tear into some fresh steel to fit an extra 10mm)

Haha. It depends on how comfortable you are with cutting (Dremel), and the layout of the case. I'd have to see what kind of setup the drive bay and that fan have.

After looking at some pics, you'd have to remove the HDD rack behind the 230mm fan, and fitting a 240 rad in there might be harder than I though :/ 
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=452542&mpage=1

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-Also, the stacking idea at the top would be awkward due to pushing/pulling? or not be as effective?

The stacking idea might work actually. The temps wouldn't be *as* good if the 240 and 360 were separate, but it'd still do a good job and would be a bit more compact. The fans all point the same direction, so you should get some solid airflow.

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-Love the fan sandwich idea but that just seems so.... hazardous? haha.

Push-pull setups are actually very common and work well with some radiators but no so well with others. My intuition says that high FPI rads would benefit from push-pull, but I honestly have no idea so don't take my word for it :) 

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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 9:10:05 PM

Boiler gives good advice so if he advises cutting, then its a good idea,
or at least a workable one hehe
Its like my tagline, dont ask IF something can be done, ask how YOU can achieve it
for a clearer idea of the stacking plan, check my rad on this


now,
say on your build you go from the roof:
legs screwed to roof, on top of legs, 3 fans screwed to the 360,
on top of the the 360 will be 3 sets of screwholes for fans, use 4 holes to mount more legs, then fans and the 240, this will give you about 2" between the rads which is a good enough gap that will allow decent cooling on both rads, mine is a single 240 with pushpull, but ignore that part, I'm not normal hehe
**Edit, having looked at your other thread, it also occurs to me that you have that top fan inside the case,
possibly, 240 straight on top of roof, then fans, then legs and the 360, but the 360 would overshadow the 'hump' at the front, make sense?
no cutting here you notice as well :p 
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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 9:37:43 PM

Hey guys, what'd I miss? :)  Looks like you have this covered- either option would work...just depends on preference, really.

+1 for the RX240 or something else that's thick.
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Anonymous
October 20, 2011 10:37:52 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
Boiler gives good advice so if he advises cutting, then its a good idea,
or at least a workable one hehe
Its like my tagline, dont ask IF something can be done, ask how YOU can achieve it
for a clearer idea of the stacking plan, check my rad on this
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q172/Motopsychojdn/IMAG0263.jpg

now,
say on your build you go from the roof:
legs screwed to roof, on top of legs, 3 fans screwed to the 360,
on top of the the 360 will be 3 sets of screwholes for fans, use 4 holes to mount more legs, then fans and the 240, this will give you about 2" between the rads which is a good enough gap that will allow decent cooling on both rads, mine is a single 240 with pushpull, but ignore that part, I'm not normal hehe
**Edit, having looked at your other thread, it also occurs to me that you have that top fan inside the case,
possibly, 240 straight on top of roof, then fans, then legs and the 360, but the 360 would overshadow the 'hump' at the front, make sense?
no cutting here you notice as well :p 
Moto


I'm not totally sure what the legs are but it sounds to me like they help you make a larger "sandwich."

And since I'm not sure on how to add in images I can make from paint, I'll draw a nice pretty picture using my keyboard =D

(^^^ and v v v show direction of airflow)


Fliter-like-thing /````````````````````\-------------------
Top of case -----------------------------------------------------
120mm x3 fans |___fan___||___fan___||___fan___|
360 rad |__3_6_0_C_M__r_a_d_i_a_t_o_r_|
240 rad |__240_cm_radiator___|
120mm x2 fans |___fan___||___fan___|


Please revise this so-called image, and show me what you mean, because sometimes I just don't understand anything

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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 10:56:17 PM

You have it backwards hehe,
the stuff goes on top of your Pc, not inside, thats why I posted mine to give you the visual,
I'll do you a worse drawing to illustrate :) 
bi5
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Anonymous
October 20, 2011 10:57:37 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
You have it backwards hehe,
the stuff goes on top of your Pc, not inside, thats why I posted mine to give you the visual,
I'll do you a worse drawing to illustrate :) 
bi5
Moto


ok thanks and crap, i spaced everything so they lined up but I guess it didn't count the extra spacing
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 11:05:32 PM



I'm no artist hehe but hopefully you can figure the layout?
and see http://www.watercoolingshop.co.uk/XSPC-Rasa-750-RX360-W...
the '80mm to 120mm Radiator brackets' are the legs I have used, you'll get four with the kit and four with the extra rad,
look back at my pic, the imagine another set of legs on top, then your 360
**edit, no brackets on the radiators if you buy rad on its own :(  just in the kits and also available separately http://www.watercoolingshop.co.uk/Radiator-mounting-bra...
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Anonymous
October 20, 2011 11:12:09 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q172/Motopsychojdn/NewBitmapImage.jpg

I'm no artist hehe but hopefully you can figure the layout?
and see http://www.watercoolingshop.co.uk/XSPC-Rasa-750-RX360-W...
the '80mm to 120mm Radiator brackets' are the legs I have used, you'll get four with the kit and four with the extra rad,
look back at my pic, the imagine another set of legs on top, then your 360
**edit, no brackets on the radiators if you buy rad on its own :(  just in the kits and also available separately http://www.watercoolingshop.co.uk/Radiator-mounting-bra...
Moto


Ok thanks but fans are the "bread" of the "sandwich"?

and I went to grab a snack in the middle of making that, and didn't include airflow lol... could you tell me which is push/pull, etc.? thanks

and what would I do with that part on top of the HAF X 942? remove it? (the filter-like thing)
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 11:18:51 PM

Leave it, you mount the fans/rads over it same as I have
for fan set up, if you have your existing fan in the roof exhausting (I.E. dont touch it at all)
You'll have the roof, then mount legs, fans then rad then legs again, then fans and rad on top
I'll try and do a better pic tomorrow, I have to sleep now, night off yay :) 
Moto
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Anonymous
October 20, 2011 11:27:43 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
Leave it, you mount the fans/rads over it same as I have
for fan set up, if you have your existing fan in the roof exhausting (I.E. dont touch it at all)
You'll have the roof, then mount legs, fans then rad then legs again, then fans and rad on top
I'll try and do a better pic tomorrow, I have to sleep now, night off yay :) 
Moto


ok thanks. This is wild first I'm told both inside, then both outside. I'm awfully confused but I understand it. Thanks for your help, just hoping a few others can touch up on some information
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 20, 2011 11:38:24 PM

Both inside is possible with the cutting etc, I'm offering a 'easier' option where they are both outside, making things a little simpler for you plus the visual effect is kinda awesome hehe, just wait till I get my twin T-virus resses up there as well
<Evil Smiley of Doom>
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Anonymous
October 21, 2011 12:03:39 AM

Motopsychojdn said:
Both inside is possible with the cutting etc, I'm offering a 'easier' option where they are both outside, making things a little simpler for you plus the visual effect is kinda awesome hehe, just wait till I get my twin T-virus resses up there as well
<Evil Smiley of Doom>
Moto


Thanks

Really, I just don't feel safe with the radiators/fans on top like that, I'm trying to figure out a way to put a 360/240 on the inside, haven't decided what to do about the rack behind the 230mm LED fan yet.
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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 1:29:14 AM

I have both of my rads mounted on the side of my case: (old pic)


Just take your time and plan everything well. Trust me...the more work and planning now makes it SO MUCH easier once you start doing the actual work and install. Take measurements of your case, make some cardboard cutouts if you can to mock up rads, etc...just kind of see what you have to work with...and then make it work.
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a b K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 2:53:57 AM

Well the 360 rad will fit inside the case, so then you only need to run the 240 external. At least that *should* work but you never know :) 
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Anonymous
October 21, 2011 7:48:03 PM

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Well the 360 rad will fit inside the case, so then you only need to run the 240 external. At least that *should* work but you never know :) 


well could I.... how should I go about mounting the 240 on the back?

Rubix should catch onto that one. haha.
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Anonymous
October 21, 2011 7:51:13 PM

rubix_1011 said:
I have both of my rads mounted on the side of my case: (old pic)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll98/gcarver2006/IMG_1520.jpg

Just take your time and plan everything well. Trust me...the more work and planning now makes it SO MUCH easier once you start doing the actual work and install. Take measurements of your case, make some cardboard cutouts if you can to mock up rads, etc...just kind of see what you have to work with...and then make it work.


A while back you told me to go for 120mm fans.

What brand do you recommend? I couldn't find any good red LED fans with high air flow. And I honestly think the deltas would be too much (I'm factoring in the price too)
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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 8:00:11 PM

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well could I.... how should I go about mounting the 240 on the back?

Rubix should catch onto that one. haha.

Radbox
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2156/ex-rad-35/Swiftech_MCB-120_Revision_2_Radbox_RadiatorFan_Housing_-_Black.html

As for fans- I'd have to look. I haven't looked for LED fans for the longest time, so I would have to take a look. There really is a sweet spot for fans in the $8-$12 range for good price/performance. Over $12, and they better be some damn good fans.
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a b K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 9:02:42 PM

Anonymous said:
A while back you told me to go for 120mm fans.

What brand do you recommend? I couldn't find any good red LED fans with high air flow. And I honestly think the deltas would be too much (I'm factoring in the price too)


With fans you have a lot of options. Scythe, Cooler Master, Yate Loon, etc. Keep in mind there are 25mm and 38mm deep fans; 120x38 fans can provide more airflow, but they are generally noisier.

If you're worried about noise, you'll want to pay attention to the noise levels in your fan choice as well.


I personally use these (I think I got them on Amazon): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
They're moderately noisy (37 dBA is a bit louder than white noise).

I've used these before (air cooling), and they work pretty well. 70CFM might be good enough. : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Anonymous
October 21, 2011 9:09:44 PM

boiler1990 said:
With fans you have a lot of options. Scythe, Cooler Master, Yate Loon, etc. Keep in mind there are 25mm and 38mm deep fans; 120x38 fans can provide more airflow, but they are generally noisier.

If you're worried about noise, you'll want to pay attention to the noise levels in your fan choice as well.


I personally use these (I think I got them on Amazon): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
They're moderately noisy (37 dBA is a bit louder than white noise).

I've used these before (air cooling), and they work pretty well. 70CFM might be good enough. : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Ok, I think I have my main idea now. But how should I make my WC loop (considering 2 GPU blocks/CPU)?

And would it be one large loop? or two seperate loops? (another reservoir, etc.)

(MS Paint would help in answering)
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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 9:19:59 PM



:D 
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 9:43:49 PM

/Commence rofling
:p 
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a b K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 9:48:13 PM

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(MS Paint would help in answering)


LOL @ Rubix

I drew this up (good thing I invested in a cheap Wacom over the summer). The GPU and the 2x120 rad aren't supposed to be overlapping, but other than that, this seems to be the most ergonomic setup.

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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 9:53:41 PM

Damn, your artwork is convincing :p 
looks good, although the 240 may fit underneath the drivecage if Op removes the Hdd rack :) 
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a b K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 10:09:18 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
Damn, your artwork is convincing :p 
looks good, although the 240 may fit underneath the drivecage if Op removes the Hdd rack :) 
Moto


Yeah, using the "Shapes" tab to draw those rectangles takes a ton of skill :D 

I was taking the 240 mounting idea from this thread that the OP PMed me: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=452542&mpage=3

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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 10:14:45 PM

I free-hand drew my msPaint image.
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 10:23:47 PM

I used a mix of boxdraw and freestyle hehe :p 
I think that particular rad may fit lying down, but not vertically at front like I said, withough more cutting as you previously mentioned :p 
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Anonymous
October 21, 2011 11:15:11 PM

rubix_1011 said:
I free-hand drew my msPaint image.


L O L. Definitely love the smartass-atmosphere =)

I'm pretty sure I'm ready to build an extreme machine now.

Still liking boiler's idea of breaking out the tools to remove the hdd rack and mounting my 240 rad somehow

I owe most of my thanks to davcon, Rubix, and boiler1990, some to moto, and a few others.

Here is a revised (x 300) list for the items I plan to buy (good thing this wasn't on paper, or i'd go through a ton of erasers...)

- HAF X 942 Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold Series 1000watt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.0)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Windows 7 Premium 64bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 2 x 4GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- SAPPHIRE 6970 2GB (x2 in CF)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6.0GB/s 3.5'' Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 LC kit w/ free Kill Coil + Feser Ultra Pure Water
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14183/ex-wat-182/XSPC...
-EK 6970 VGA LC Block FC6970-Acetal (x2)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/reviews/12576/ex-blc-...
- Corsair SP2500 High-power 2.1 Speaker System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Thermaltake eSPORTS CHALLENGER Pro Gaming Keyboard Fan Cooler
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042AI466/ref=s9_simh...
- Thermaltake eSPORTS Black Laser 4000 DPI Gaming Mouse
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-eSports-Black-Gaming-...
- CM SickleFlow 120mm Red LED Fan 70CFM 2,000RPM (5 for 360&240rads)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- a RX240 radiator for my GPU blocks
(I don't have a site saved)
- Some CM MegaFlow 200mm Fans (not sure how many) for replacing the stock ones.
- Some red (not dumb pinkish cold cathodes) cold cathodes for my case (not sure where to get from yet)


~These items I'm still looking for (feel free to comment on)-
-Some red cold cathode lights
-red UV tubing (trying to find some that's not redish-orange)



Ok, well that's the list. It's roughly a total of $2,400 with about $80-$100 in mail-in rebates. I saved another $100 on combo deals from newegg, and should hope for items to drop in price before I buy since I'm at $400/$2400 in savings (just started working at min. wage).

Once I get my parts, I'll do day-by-day logs to show my amateur work. Might have a local Computer store or a known tech friend do my tubing hook ups for me.

Now that I typed this novel, I wanted to know one more thing, is there a way I can donate to this wonderful site? I would like give back to the site for all of the amazing help. :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D 

P.S. - Love Rubix's comment.
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 11:29:38 PM

Quickly scanned the build as I'm several hours past bedtime hehe
Feser additive, sell on ebay once you get it, you sont want/need it in there, keep killcoil though :p 
and a good way to 'donate' to the site?
Be a good member and help others who come after you mate, thats all you can give, and its as much as you can give
:) 
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Anonymous
October 21, 2011 11:32:05 PM

Motopsychojdn said:
Quickly scanned the build as I'm several hours past bedtime hehe
Feser additive, sell on ebay once you get it, you sont want/need it in there, keep killcoil though :p 
and a good way to 'donate' to the site?
Be a good member and help others who come after you mate, thats all you can give, and its as much as you can give
:) 
Moto


ah... and I was going to add the ultra pure water to it, so your saying I shouldn't. I'll ask somebody else what liquid they'd recommend, I'll let you sleep >.<
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a b K Overclocking
October 21, 2011 11:34:29 PM

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Still liking boiler's idea of breaking out the tools to remove the hdd rack and mounting my 240 rad somehow

I'd order the case first and get an idea of the physical dimensions. Take some measurements, map things out, etc. You may find some rads fit better than others in that case.

Quote:
- Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold Series 1000watt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I hope you plan on putting some serious OCs on that system - 850W is more than enough for 2x6970s and an i5 running stock (leaves some headroom).


I'd personally get a Z68 board, but that's just me. You could even buy a cheap 20-30GB SSD on a forum for like ~$60 and use it as a cache drive

Quote:
- Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6.0GB/s 3.5'' Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd change this to a Samsung F3 because it's a faster drive. However, it is $5 + shipping more than the Seagate. The problem is that Seagate's drives have gotten kind of bad in the last several years. Their drives from 5+ years ago were rock solid though, so I don't understand what happened...

Quote:
- Corsair SP2500 High-power 2.1 Speaker System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's a lot to spend on only 2 speakers and a sub. Sure you don't want a 5.1 setup? :D 

Just my 2 cents. Before I started visiting this forum I spent all my time in the Systems section :) 
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October 22, 2011 12:02:33 AM

-The 1000watt is in a combo so I save a bit, plus I love overkill. And when I upgrade, my PSU will be perfectly fine.

-For the MOBO I think i'll stick with this one for now, but of course i'll still be comparing, etc. during the time I work for my parts.

-You got me on HDD's, tbh I'm just looking for a cheap large HDD for overflow from my 120GB SSD. (which I just realized newegg removed it from my shopping cart since it ran out of stock... haha) add $200 to my total =\

and switched my hdd choice to Samsung F3 =)

- For the speakers, I've heard them because a friend has them. I'd take them over my $2,500 home theater system's speakers (was a gift, didn't pay anything) Consider the speakers to be the 2.1 system that God himself uses for his Gaming System setup.
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a b K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 12:08:23 AM

They do look like quality speakers, no doubt about that. It's just that 5.1 is a better immersive experience...
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Anonymous
October 22, 2011 12:13:34 AM

boiler1990 said:
They do look like quality speakers, no doubt about that. It's just that 5.1 is a better immersive experience...


Hm.... what 5.1 setup would you recommend?
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a b K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 1:18:46 AM

You could go with either a good logitech or a headset (Roccat Kave or Cooler Master Storm Sirus. I think there are some other home-theater types as well). Or your existing home theater setup :D 
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October 22, 2011 1:33:24 AM

boiler1990 said:
You could go with either a good logitech or a headset (Roccat Kave or Cooler Master Storm Sirus. I think there are some other home-theater types as well). Or your existing home theater setup :D 


To be honest I'm not a big fan of headsets, except at night when you need to be quiet...

Might invest in a pair down the road. Well, looks like this topic has helped me a ton, if I have any other questions I'll make another thread. (will probably be on trying to find good red cold cathodes (not pinkish or orange)/neon red tubing (not orange).

Thanks a ton for all of your help and to everyone else.
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Anonymous
October 22, 2011 1:33:40 AM

Best answer selected by kllrfrk.
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a b K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 1:40:03 AM

Keep us posted - Rubix started a work log section for finished builds :) 
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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 2:08:47 AM

No worries...boiler had a little bit more relevant info than my post.
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a b K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 2:15:40 AM

rubix_1011 said:
No worries...boiler had a little bit more relevant info than my post.


Yours still gets 1000 points for being flat out ridiculous/hilarious :D  I almost fell off the couch when I read that.
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a c 324 K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 2:16:23 AM

That's how I usually roll.

You have to admit it, though...go back and look...he left that one wide open.
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a c 190 K Overclocking
October 22, 2011 7:45:35 AM

Looking forward to the buildlog and pics man :) 
Moto
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a c 225 K Overclocking
October 23, 2011 1:34:30 AM

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