What Is AMD's Equivalent To Intel's i5?

[godbrother]

I'm was about to start on a build for a friend, but I thought I'd ask first to see if I can get somthing better at the same price, or the same at a lower price from AMD.

Thanks!

 

[enzo matrix]

What are the other components in the system?
What will the computer be used for?
If gaming, what games?

 

[Raidur]

i5 is your best bet (nothing from AMD is quite equivalent to i5, except for gaming on Phenom II 955 in most occasions).

If you don't want to spend ~$200 or more on a CPU then go AMD.

 

[cjl]

The top Phenoms are pretty close.

 

[cyberkuberiah]

if your budget is 200$ for the cpu , i would sincerely recommend the following :-

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail 199.99$

for single video cards , this mobo with one gpu slot :-

GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail 104.99$

if you need sli/xfire , then this :-

GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD4P LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail 169.99

this memory is 1333 mhz and has low latency 7-7-7-21 :-

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1333LV4GK - Retail

 

[godbrother]

The top Phenoms are pretty close.

So AMD really hasn't got much against i5 let along i7 have they?

 

[godbrother]

i5 is your best bet (nothing from AMD is quite equivalent to i5, except for gaming on Phenom II 955 in most occasions).

If you don't want to spend ~$200 or more on a CPU then go AMD.

Cool, what would you suggest for a build? Has to be as low as possible. SLI/Crossfire if possible. I want to compare the two.

Currently I had in mind:

CPU: i5
RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600 Generic Ram (ebay)
GPU: GTS250
MoB: Biostar T5 XE Intel P55 LGA1156
PSU: 600W OCZ StelthXtreme.

 

[godbrother]

O and before you ask, the motherboard I'm getting for 80 bucks from my local PC store. They've actually gone bust and selling stuff at half price.

 

[cyberkuberiah]

that mobo is ok but dont think crossfire or sli because the second gpu slot runs at x4 mode which would hamper performance by a big margin . you'll be fine with any gpu on the first slot , have you considered the 4870 1 gb version ? its better than the gts 250 and only a bit more in price .

 

[EXT64]

Yeah, if you want CF/SLI be sure to get one that supports 16x/4x and 8x/8x switching. Normally that is the mid and high end ones.

 

[Cryslayer80]

i5 is your best bet (nothing from AMD is quite equivalent to i5, except for gaming on Phenom II 955 in most occasions).

If you don't want to spend ~$200 or more on a CPU then go AMD.

Yup, I expected a crappost like this. Anyway, the competitor to I5 is Phenom II 945. All CPUs above annihilate it.

 

[Cryslayer80]

So AMD really hasn't got much against i5 let along i7 have they?

Only to the lowest end I7 - 920. Not the higher end CPUs, as the I7 is MUCH architecturally superior and works better at the same clock speed. However, in gaming they would be equal (even C2Q would) and PII would even beat it many times.

 

[Raidur]

Lol, your an idiot Cry.

 

[godbrother]

Only to the lowest end I7 - 920. Not the higher end CPUs, as the I7 is MUCH architecturally superior and works better at the same clock speed. However, in gaming they would be equal (even C2Q would) and PII would even beat it many times.

What build would you suggest? The cheapest, but the best of the cheapest?

 

[andy5174]

I'm was about to start on a build for a friend, but I thought I'd ask first to see if I can get somthing better at the same price, or the same at a lower price from AMD.

Thanks!

NONE!

i5-750 v.s. PII-955 (note: LOWER is better in some cases)

In US: i5 is better at both performance and cost-performance ratio

In NZ(Since last week): PII-955 is better regarding cp ratio, but still worse than i5.

 

[andy5174]

What build would you suggest? The cheapest, but the best of the cheapest?

The cheapest will never be the best! I think you are talking about the best cost-performance ratio at the price range you are looking at.

If that's the case, i5-750 is the best in the US. The other way round in the rest of the world though!

In conclusion, i5 FTW in the US but PII-955 FTW in the rest of the world!

 

[cyberkuberiah]

but in india its cheaper to get i5 750 than 955 . the phenom is close to its launch price , and perhaps this has something to do with low sales volume . u.s price drops are seldom reflected here .

 

[andy5174]

but in india its cheaper to get i5 750 than 955 . the phenom is close to its launch price , and perhaps this has something to do with low sales volume . u.s price drops are seldom reflected here .

Good for you guys then! You are getting something better at cheaper price.

 

[Cryslayer80]

Lol, your an idiot Cry.

Thanks! If such a compliment comes from the stupidest f'ing idiot in the universe, I am flattered! That sentence would sound like this from a normal person: "Cry, you are the greatest omnipotent being created in the entire world!" I mean, thank you for the flattering. But you shouldn't. I'm just a normal person (un)like you!

 

[Cryslayer80]

NONE!

i5-750 v.s. PII-955 (note: LOWER is better in some cases)

In US: i5 is better at both performance and cost-performance ratio

In NZ(Since last week): PII-955 is better regarding cp ratio, but still worse than i5.

Lol what sob noobs. PII>I7 in games. Simple and true. And about I5, you can go rub it with the picture of it.

http://www.modreactor.com/english/Reviews/Test-ATI-HD-4890-1GB-CrossFire-AMD-Phenom-II-955-BE-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/Page-4-Performance-Crysis-Warhead.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/pii_965/10.html

 

[Raidur]

Lol what sob noobs. PII>I7 in games. Simple and true. And about I5, you can go rub it with the picture of it.

http://www.modreactor.com/english/Reviews/Test-ATI-HD-4890-1GB-CrossFire-AMD-Phenom-II-955-BE-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/Page-4-Performance-Crysis-Warhead.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/pii_965/10.html

Cry you are the only person on this forum that thinks that, and you're not convincing anybody. You can't let the 2 or 3 benchmarks you found trick you to think that Phenom II is some amazing gem. I'd post some benchmarks but you'll just look past them and think, "Hm, Intel probably paid those guys off." Fact: 90% of benchmarks point to i5. Fact: 98% of benchmarks point to i7. Now, you attacked ME. If all you want to do in this forum is to go around trolling people's threads you should do us all a favor and LEAVE. AMDzone has a nice spot for people like you right in their neat little pageant.

 

[godbrother]

Has anyone a clue when AMD will realese their i7 equivalent? If so, what would the rough price be?

 

[Cryslayer80]

Has anyone a clue when AMD will realese their i7 equivalent? If so, what would the rough price be?

That's easy.

 

[Raidur]

If it is gaming performance you speak of godbrother, the Phenom II 955 is equivalent for most low to midhigh end GPU setups.

It is next to impossible for us to guess when they will have a true equivalent to i7. Since they are just matching C2Q (even though I personally think C2Q has an advantage after OCing) right now I'd guess it would take a good 2-3 years at least, and it may cost around $200 if AMD keeps doing the pricing awesomeness they have been doing.

 

[Cryslayer80]

Since they are just matching C2Q (even though I personally think C2Q has an advantage after OCing)


Yes, since you are an ignorant noob owning an inferior Core2 Quad. And the fact that PII is light years ahead of your CPU is hurting your ego, right? 2-3 years? Now I see how bad and complex your situation is.