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Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:17:01 PM

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I have an old series 1 Tivo which works well at the moment. I am about to
upgrade the hard disk to give me more room to save programs. My question is
(I hope) simple. What format does Tivo save recorded programmes?

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Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:17:02 PM

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In article <d48g07$jab$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"clive" <tuesday@oxenwood.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> I have an old series 1 Tivo which works well at the moment. I am about to
> upgrade the hard disk to give me more room to save programs. My question is
> (I hope) simple. What format does Tivo save recorded programmes?

It's own proprietray, unqiue to TiVo format.
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:17:02 PM

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On 2005-04-21, clive <tuesday@oxenwood.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I have an old series 1 Tivo which works well at the moment. I am about to
> upgrade the hard disk to give me more room to save programs. My question is
> (I hope) simple. What format does Tivo save recorded programmes?

For upgrading your hard disk, it doesn't matter what format TiVo saves its
recorded programs in. To your hard disk, it's just a bunch of 0s and 1s.
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Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:17:02 PM

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"clive" <tuesday@oxenwood.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>I have an old series 1 Tivo which works well at the moment. I am about to
>upgrade the hard disk to give me more room to save programs. My question is
>(I hope) simple. What format does Tivo save recorded programmes?


In a custom proprietary database stored as a raw partition on the hard drive.
Once you get through that, and the fragments stored in the DB, they
are stored as MPEG2 480x480 streams. Audio and video seperate (so they
aren't true MPEG2 system streams).

Sounds like you probably want to read up quite a bit at
http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/
anticipating your next question.
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:17:02 PM

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"clive" <tuesday@oxenwood.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:D 48g07$jab$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I have an old series 1 Tivo which works well at the moment. I am about to
> upgrade the hard disk to give me more room to save programs. My question
is
> (I hope) simple. What format does Tivo save recorded programmes?

Tivo uses a proprietary mpeg format, and also encrypts the files. However,
if you're interested in video extraction to your computer, there is lots of
free software out there to do it, and it's not particularly difficult.

>
>
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:17:03 PM

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"Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message
news:4267cff3$0$33055$902e6010@newsreader.geeks.org...
> "clive" <tuesday@oxenwood.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
> >I have an old series 1 Tivo which works well at the moment. I am about
to
> >upgrade the hard disk to give me more room to save programs. My question
is
> >(I hope) simple. What format does Tivo save recorded programmes?
>
>
> In a custom proprietary database stored as a raw partition on the hard
drive.

I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under Linux. Was I
wrong?


> Once you get through that, and the fragments stored in the DB, they
> are stored as MPEG2 480x480 streams. Audio and video seperate (so they
> aren't true MPEG2 system streams).
>
> Sounds like you probably want to read up quite a bit at
> http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/
> anticipating your next question.
>
>
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:29:46 PM

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> I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under Linux. Was I
> wrong?

As far as the where and how the show data is stored, yes, you are incorrect.

Randy S.
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:29:47 PM

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"Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:D 492fr$mo8$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu...
>
> > I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under Linux.
Was I
> > wrong?
>
> As far as the where and how the show data is stored, yes, you are
incorrect.

Okay, thanks. I appreciate the clarification.

>
> Randy S.
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 9:53:13 PM

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PTravel wrote:
> "Randy S." <rswittno@spamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:D 492fr$mo8$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu...
>
>>>I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under Linux.
>
> Was I
>
>>>wrong?
>>
>>As far as the where and how the show data is stored, yes, you are
>
> incorrect.
>
> Okay, thanks. I appreciate the clarification.
>

Understandable mistake. That fact does explain, though, why it's
significantly harder to retain your old recordings when upgrading than not.

Randy S.
April 22, 2005 12:26:40 AM

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* PTravel Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under
> Linux. Was I wrong?

Yes, that is incorrect. There is more than one FS on the box I believe
but FAT16 is not one of them.

--
David
Anonymous
April 22, 2005 12:26:41 AM

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"SINNER" <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns963F9D1C59343Louiscypherhellorg@140.99.99.130...
> * PTravel Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
> > I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under
> > Linux. Was I wrong?
>
> Yes, that is incorrect. There is more than one FS on the box I believe
> but FAT16 is not one of them.

Ah, thanks. Fortunately, my knowledge of this area (or rather lack of
knowledge) didn't come into play when I replaced the HD in my Series 1.
That fact, in itself, shows how easy it is to do using the readily available
software.

>
> --
> David
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 12:10:45 AM

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PTravel wrote:

> I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under Linux.

You have been misinformed - they are *not* DOS-style partitions.

=[tivo:root]-# uname -a
Linux (none) 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5 #8 Wed May 8 15:38:27 PDT 2002 ppc unknown
=[tivo:root]-# fdisk -l
bash: fdisk: command not found
=[tivo:root]-# pdisk -l

Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hda'
#: type name length base ( size )
1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
2: Image Bootstrap 1 4096 @ 64 ( 2.0M)
3: Image Kernel 1 4096 @ 4160 ( 2.0M)
4: Ext2 Root 1 262144 @ 8256 (128.0M)
5: Image Bootstrap 2 4096 @ 270400 ( 2.0M)
6: Image Kernel 2 4096 @ 274496 ( 2.0M)
7: Ext2 Root 2 262144 @ 278592 (128.0M)
8: Swap Linux swap 131072 @ 540736 ( 64.0M)
9: Ext2 /var 262144 @ 671808 (128.0M)
10: MFS app region 1048576 @ 933952 (512.0M)
11: MFS media region 42015744 @ 1982528 ( 20.0G)
12: Apple_Free Extra 928 @ 43998272

Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hdb'
#: type name length base ( size )
1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
2: MFS app extended 1024 @ 64
3: MFS media extend 156295168 @ 1088 ( 74.5G)
4: Apple_Free Extra 5232 @ 156296256 ( 2.6M)



-Joe
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 4:50:17 PM

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In article <KdudncJIc7dfwvHfRVn-vw@comcast.com>,
Joe Smith <joe@inwap.com> wrote:

> PTravel wrote:
>
> > I thought the Tivo drive was formatted as FAT16, running under Linux.
>
> You have been misinformed - they are *not* DOS-style partitions.
>
> =[tivo:root]-# uname -a
> Linux (none) 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5 #8 Wed May 8 15:38:27 PDT 2002 ppc unknown
> =[tivo:root]-# fdisk -l
> bash: fdisk: command not found
> =[tivo:root]-# pdisk -l
>
> Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hda'
> #: type name length base ( size )
> 1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
> 2: Image Bootstrap 1 4096 @ 64 ( 2.0M)
> 3: Image Kernel 1 4096 @ 4160 ( 2.0M)
> 4: Ext2 Root 1 262144 @ 8256 (128.0M)
> 5: Image Bootstrap 2 4096 @ 270400 ( 2.0M)
> 6: Image Kernel 2 4096 @ 274496 ( 2.0M)
> 7: Ext2 Root 2 262144 @ 278592 (128.0M)
> 8: Swap Linux swap 131072 @ 540736 ( 64.0M)
> 9: Ext2 /var 262144 @ 671808 (128.0M)
> 10: MFS app region 1048576 @ 933952 (512.0M)
> 11: MFS media region 42015744 @ 1982528 ( 20.0G)
> 12: Apple_Free Extra 928 @ 43998272
>
> Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hdb'
> #: type name length base ( size )
> 1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
> 2: MFS app extended 1024 @ 64
> 3: MFS media extend 156295168 @ 1088 ( 74.5G)
> 4: Apple_Free Extra 5232 @ 156296256 ( 2.6M)
>
>
>
> -Joe

I get on a hacked HDVR2

Disk /dev/hda: 137.4 GB, 137438952960 bytes
16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 266305 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes

Partition map (with 512 byte blocks) on '/dev/hda'
#: type name length base ( size )
1: Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1

2: Image Bootstrap 1 4096 @ 76181568 ( 2.0M)
3: Image Kernel 1 4096 @ 76185664 ( 2.0M)
4: Ext2 Root 1 262144 @ 76189760 (128.0M)
5: Image Bootstrap 2 4096 @ 76451904 ( 2.0M)
6: Image Kernel 2 4096 @ 76456000 ( 2.0M)
7: Ext2 Root 2 262144 @ 76460096 (128.0M)
8: Swap Linux swap 260096 @ 76722240 (127.0M)
9: Ext2 /var 262144 @ 76982336 (128.0M)
10: MFS MFS application region 524288 @ 77244480 (256.0M)
11: MFS MFS media region 33190912 @ 42990656 ( 15.8G)
12: MFS Second MFS application region 524288 @ 77768768 (256.0M)
13: MFS Second MFS media region 42990592 @ 64 ( 20.5G)
14: MFS New MFS Application 1024 @ 78293056
15: MFS New MFS Media 190136320 @ 78294080 ( 90.7G)
16: Apple_Free Extra 5055 @ 268430400 ( 2.5M)
!