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HELP NEEDED FAST! Phenom II 965 Temps WAY to high?!?

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November 13, 2009 4:37:34 PM

Hello, I recently bought a Phenom II 965 and am unsure as to the temps im recieving from it. Heres what I've done so far. Running everything stock, no OC. Flashed bios to F6 firmware as suggested from Gigabyte website. Re-seated heatsink with Arctic Silver 5. Checked that all fans are working. Idle temps at complete idle ( meaning I dont even move the mouse) are in upper 30s to lower 40s(ie 38-45). As soon as I turn on IE8 or even control panel, temps just jump to 48-55. Ran Prime95 for less than 10 minutes and temps peaked at 60 but hovered around 58. Dont know why its acting this way is it normal? Set windows to run balanced b/c set to performance these temps actually rise. :o  Here is what I'm currently running...

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Phenom II 965 BE (125w revision)
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4 (with flashed bios)
Saphire Radeon HD4830
WD Sata 500GB
650w Antec True Power PSU
Antec 300 case (Scythe Fans in all slots except custom fan in top of case)
Corsair Dominator (4gb 1066 DDR2)

*one last note: while watching voltage readings in CoreTemp I can see that the voltage on complete idle is around 1.1 and as soon as I do something it jumps to 1.4. There doesnt see to be and middle ground so to speak, its either all the way down or all the way up. :pfff: 

Need more info just ask, I need an answer soon b/c I feel I may end up RMAing this chip and my time is limited. Thanks for all your help!
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November 13, 2009 4:53:19 PM

That isn't too bad. i think that is a 140W TDP chip, so it is going to produce a bit of heat. So, those temps are about right if you are using the stock cooler. It sounds like the power saving is working properly, but try downloading CPU-Z so you can watch the core clock real time. Also, I'd try HWMonitor and/or PC Wizard to doulb echeck the temperature readings.
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November 13, 2009 4:55:20 PM

Whoops, sorry I see you say it is the 125W chip, so not quite as bad, but still a lot of power.
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November 13, 2009 5:43:22 PM

Don't know if this report will help but here it is: :( 


This was achieve while playing Dragon Age Origins for less than 10 minutes...

CPUID HWMonitor Report
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Binaries
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HWMonitor version 1.1.5.0

Monitoring
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Mainboard Model GA-MA790X-UD4 (0x00000335 - 0x4CBE02B4)

LPCIO
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LPCIO Vendor ITE
LPCIO Model IT8720
LPCIO Vendor ID 0x90
LPCIO Chip ID 0x8720
LPCIO Revision ID 0x2
Config Mode I/O address 0x2E
Config Mode LDN 0x4
Config Mode registers



Hardware Monitors
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Hardware monitor ITE IT87
Voltage 0 1.47 Volts [0x5C] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 1 2.13 Volts [0x85] (VIN1)
Voltage 2 3.26 Volts [0xCC] (+3.3V)
Voltage 3 4.95 Volts [0xB8] (+5V)
Voltage 4 12.16 Volts [0xBE] (+12V)
Voltage 5 -2.05 Volts [0x20] (-12V)
Voltage 7 3.66 Volts [0x88] (+5V VCCH)
Voltage 8 3.28 Volts [0xCD] (VBAT)
Temperature 0 31°C (87°F) [0x1F] (TMPIN0)
Temperature 1 54°C (129°F) [0x36] (TMPIN1)
Temperature 2 47°C (116°F) [0x2F] (TMPIN2)
Fan 0 4821 RPM [0x8C] (FANIN0)
Register space LPC, base address = 0x0228



Hardware monitor AMD Phenom II X4 965
Temperature 0 58°C (136°F) [0x1D0] (Core #0)
Temperature 1 58°C (136°F) [0x1D0] (Core #1)
Temperature 2 58°C (136°F) [0x1D0] (Core #2)
Temperature 3 58°C (136°F) [0x1D0] (Core #3)

Hardware monitor Radeon HD 4830
Temperature 0 39°C (102°F) (GPU Core)

Hardware monitor WDC WD3200AAKS-00L9A0
Temperature 0 29°C (84°F) [0x1D] (Assembly)


Processors
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4

APICs
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Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0 1
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0 2
-- Core 3
-- Thread 0 3

Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Name AMD Phenom II X4 965
Codename Deneb
Specification AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor
Package Socket AM3 (939)
CPUID F.4.3
Extended CPUID 10.4
Brand ID 14
Core Stepping RB-C3
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 3415.6 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 17.0 x 200.9 MHz
HT Link speed 2009.2 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64
L1 Data cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 6 MBytes, 48-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
Min FID 5.0x
P-State FID 0x12 - VID 0x0C
P-State FID 0x0B - VID 0x14
P-State FID 0x06 - VID 0x1C
P-State FID 0x100 - VID 0x2C

Package Type 0x1
Model 65
String 1 0x3
String 2 0x6
Page 0x0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4


Thread dumps
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CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)



CPU Thread 1
APIC ID 1
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 1, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)



CPU Thread 2
APIC ID 2
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 2, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)



CPU Thread 3
APIC ID 3
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 3, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)




Graphic APIs
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API ATI OD5
API ATI I/O

Display Adapters
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Display adapter 0
Manuf. API index 0
Display name \\.\DISPLAY1
Name Radeon HD 4830
Codename RV770
Technology 55 nm
PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x1002 (0x174B)
Model ID 0x944C (0xE810)
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November 13, 2009 8:14:24 PM

!!UPDATE!! I just ran OCCT cpu and gpu stress test. My system bios issued an overheat warning at 64C...4 minutes in...this has to be a bad chip right? They aren't supposed to be this hot on the revision right?
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January 13, 2010 8:56:17 PM

Soo...no answer...I eventually RMA'd the chip, got another, does the same thing and this one is actually refusing to render Eye Candy 6 glass filter in CS4. Strange thing is that I actually put my old cpu (Athlon X64 6400 3.2ghz) back in and it has no problems rendering and my temps are waaaay low. Guess this was a bad batch of chips. My temps actually reached 70c at one point! A 40-50 sec render puts my temps at 64c and above, depending on how long it takes to render. So not solved but still unanswered...
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January 13, 2010 9:41:20 PM

Okay, first of all, I'm assuming you're using the stock cooler since you didn't say otherwise. If you are indeed using a stock cooler (or a really cheap one) then there is NOTHING wrong. The stock heatsinks that come with AMD/Intel CPUs frankly are horrible. You will indeed see idle temps in the 40's many times, and easily can see load temperatures in the 50's and 60's.

As far as putting your old Athlon X64 in there, I'd expect that to be cooler compared to a new 125W, high performance, Phenom II X4 965 processor.

What it sounds like you need, is better cooling. Take a look at some better CPU coolers that fit your socket type. :) 

EDIT: By the way. The Voltage change you are seeing is most likely due to AMD's "Cool N Quiet" feature, which reduces CPU voltage and speeds to reduce idle temperatures and power usage.
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March 27, 2010 11:44:48 PM

that 1.47 vcore is too high. turn off cool n quiet and get your vcore to 1.375 (check under load to make sure it stays there) and run it at stock 3.4.
Keep it like this until you get a better cooler.
I have the same cpu and same problems, when I had cool n quiet on, it eventually started pulling 1.5volts and causing the temps to go into the 70's.

you have to watch your vcore with these chips, dont just leave them on auto.
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May 10, 2010 1:58:10 PM

you can just undervolt the chip, i was having the same problem but i put my chip 3.6 at 1.280 vcore and have never fail me
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May 20, 2010 4:19:33 AM

Here is my setup
Phenom x4 965 3.4ghz BE
Gigabyte ATI Radeon 5870 1GB
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3
4 GB Corsair 1333mhz DDR3 Dual Channel
Corsair 750tx
Coolermaster 690 II
Asus DVD Drive
D-Link Wireless-N PCI

The CPU temps never get over 50c while playing crysis and it idles at 36c. I am using the stock pre-applied thermal compound also!

So I am baffled by your temps.
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May 20, 2010 6:45:43 AM

mine temps are the same as darshebag, it really seems high at yours and i have even oc'ed it to 3.9 with the same temps!
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September 12, 2010 2:44:54 AM

My temp temp idles at 35 degrees C. Under full load 4.6

Sysytem specs"

AMD 965 125W OC'd to 3.7

2 x ATI 5770's

Corsair 750

Case CoolerMaster Sniper

9 Case fans including PSU

Thermaltake Fan Controller

H50 Corsair water Cooling

X-fi Extreme Gamer Sound Card

4 x 320 Hardrives

Your temps should run cooler. Its all about the set up.Intake, exhaust, and thermal paste processor seating.

Good Luck


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September 12, 2010 3:38:21 AM

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