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Can COOLER MASTER RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W run a graphics card such as 9800

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November 14, 2009 6:06:06 AM

I recently aquired a power supply unit and am looking to buy a new graphics card such as the 9800GT 1GB DDR3 or one with the same specs and performance.

I would like to know if this psu:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

will run:

http://www.bfgtech.com/bfgr981024gtge.aspx

Please give all your thoughts and sugestions. Whether to get another card or not to get one at all. Please don't post things such as: I could use that psu as my doorstep. That is stupid. It's too bulky and you would trip on it.
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November 14, 2009 7:38:30 AM

If I had to give your power supply a grade it would be a D+. It has very little going for it, but probably won't blow up.

I would not put that much stress on the poor PSU. If you want to plug a decent video card into it, get a 4670. almost as fast and costs less, and pulls less power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or possibly a 4770 if you like, which should be about the same speed as the 9800GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 14, 2009 7:40:40 AM

Proximon said:
If I had to give your power supply a grade it would be a D+. It has very little going for it, but probably won't blow up.

I would not put that much stress on the poor PSU. If you want to plug a decent video card into it, get a 4670. almost as fast and costs less, and pulls less power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or possibly a 4770 if you like, which should be about the same speed as the 9800GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



If it doesn't blow up, then why a D+? There's this guy who says he uses a 3870 on the psu and it works fine.
I would go witht he 4670 tho because i just want to play all games on mid settings on 1020 resolution. Would that work? And my psu doesnt have a disc drive connected, so does that take off some strain on the component.

However, the 9800GT im talking about has a spec of only 350W, how does that work? It works off the motherboard and doesnt require a 6-pin so that may strain the motherboard even more. Dont know.
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November 14, 2009 10:22:19 AM

If you would like an education about power supplies and what makes them different, I suggest you check out that section of my guide, linked in my sig.

The PSU you linked has no PFC and cheap components likely to fail or cause instability issues when under stress. It does not truly deliver 460W, probably more in the range of 430W peak, and should probably not be allowed to deliver more than around 300W on a continuous basis. The 12V rails can supposedly deliver around 36A, but should probably only go around 24A on a regular basis.

Apparently it does have adequate safety measures such as over voltage protection, so it's not too bleak. Also it's fairly stable at lower loads, and would probably be a fair choice for an office machine or such.

I tell people to replace PSUs sometimes, and I didn't say that in your case. Just... go easy on it :) 

4670 should play most games at medium settings on a 1680x1050. I can think of a few that it might struggle with at that res, such as Crysis and Age of Conan.

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November 14, 2009 11:43:14 AM

Ill be ordering the 4670 along with

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

then ill be free to upgrade all i like later. thanx for the info. i dont overclock my cpu and the disk drive isnt connected so im pretty sure itll be okay for now

and im used to playing games on next lowest resolutions, so 1680 is godly to me, i would probably just play on 1020 x 870 resolutions or the like or 1200 res if thats possible

since my current card is the ati 4350, i think the 4670 is going to be a pretty big upgrade for me
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November 14, 2009 11:50:34 PM

Well, from the review I've read, the Rosewill seems pretty good, and this is my first time buying anything a power supply and graphics card online, so I'll just see how it goes. I am not an 'enthusiast' as people call them, and i just want to play games on medium res on med or high quality without blowing up my comp. As the 4670 and Rosewill seems to meet those expectations, I'll just let it go.

If it does blow up, then I know from now on that I need to be more careful. At least with the Rosewill, it's 80% assured unlike mine which is 70%.
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November 15, 2009 12:29:52 AM



there is actually one good series from rosewill, their Xtreme series (actually given recommendation from jonnyguru)
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November 15, 2009 12:42:58 AM

If you would like to suggest a better product at the same price of the Rosewill 530W, I'd be glad to consider it.
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November 15, 2009 5:30:36 AM

are all coolermaster psu's junk? i had a coolermaster 550 it went out in 6months then the replacement rma blew up same day i got it then they upgraded me to a 650real power pro and it lasted 4months. only thing i had on it was a core i7920 2HDD 3sticks ddr3 and one 9800gtx on the 650watt. before when i had the 550watt i only had a 7600gs card on it
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November 15, 2009 5:32:24 AM

i think it was the gtx, gotta check the amps, im staying low with a 4670 so i dont have to constantly check temps and pc condition every few minutes while playing

and as for the 7600

that's just bad luck

i ran my 8600GT on a 300W just fine for 2 years
only upgrading now because it got fried for handling crysis on maximum
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November 15, 2009 5:44:03 AM

mindless728 said:
there is actually one good series from rosewill, their Xtreme series (actually given recommendation from jonnyguru)


Yes in 2007 wasn't it? I'm sure there are worse units than that 530W, but there aren't any decent reviews either.

Any one of the PSUs I listed would be better, and some of them are less after rebates I think. Here are some more:

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35456&vpn=OC...

This one is actually less, and is a well tested and approved model
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33040&vpn=OC...


The same quality as the one above, but not modular for even less:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26884&vpn=OC...
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November 15, 2009 5:46:19 AM

WINTERLORD said:
are all coolermaster psu's junk?


They have a few good ones, usually overpriced. A shame really, they make great cases.
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November 15, 2009 6:08:42 AM

I don't know if those will fit in my case. The 460W i have right now is 15x14x8.5 in cm. I think my friend has already ordered the 530W and 4670 for me though. If the psu doesnt fit, i guess ill just put it outside the case.
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