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2 i7 860 or dual xeon x5550 for 3d rendering workstation

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November 14, 2009 5:42:37 PM

hello guys,

i'm planning to buy a 3d rendering machine which i'm going to use only for render high-res images using mentalray,vray in 3dsmax and also do lots of photoshop & after effects composting. my idea is to buy a dual xeon x5550 setup with 8gb ram or buy 2 i7 860 2.8ghz which can be overclocked . i dont know if dual xeon x5550 can compete with 2 i7 860 cpus powered machines. i'm not a computer hardware wizard but i know that even using network rendering to connect 2 i7 machines, there will be some speed reduction in rendering performance since rendering via network. i really want to go for xeon x5550 but if 2 i7 machines perfrom better than dual xeons then i would go for 2 i7 machines. i would like to get some advice on this....here are the specs for both the computer i got so far from my hardware guy ..


2 pcs i7 rig

i7 860 2.8ghz oc @4ghz
ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
2 x Super Talent DDR3-1333 2GB/128x8 CL8
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000KSRTL 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB
GIGABYTE GV-N94TOC-1GI GeForce 9400 GT 1GB ( i'm not concerned about the graphics card since its a rendering machine maybe in the future will upgrade with quadro)

approx prize 950$


xeon rig

Intel Xeon X5550 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB
ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5500 ATX Dual Intel Xeon ( not sure about this mother board..any better performance board for x550????)
SUPER TALENT 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
SUPER TALENT MasterDrive SX SAM64GM25S 2.5" 64GB SATA II MLC
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB
Rosewill RG530-2 530W 80Plus Certified, ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V
COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm
GIGABYTE GV-N94TOC-1GI GeForce 9400 GT 1GB

approx prize 2500$ i could spend 3000$ max on this rig as i'm on heavy budjet :pfff: 


need some advice, i hope xeons cannot be overclock..is there a way to over clock xeon x5550?
also need some advice on motherboard


thanks

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November 14, 2009 9:33:52 PM

You can't overclock Xeon processors (usually a BIOS limitation). Since they require a workstation/server motherboard, you should consider 6 modules of ECC FBDIMM for stability. You should also get a quality PSU.
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November 14, 2009 11:20:31 PM

if you go dual xeons consider getting the E5530 as they are not much slower (2.4GHz vs 2.66GHz) and about half as cheap (~$550 vs ~$1000 ea)

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November 15, 2009 12:05:56 AM

mindless, arent the e5530's hald as powerful? since they are based on the older architecture, not nehalem surely they are much less powerful?

but to OP, i would imagine a dual XEON workstation would be much better saince you owuld have no risk of network bottlenecking. since they are almost as powerful as 870's anyway, you should get much better performance.
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November 15, 2009 12:06:47 AM

nevermind, just notcied they are also nehaslem based. got myself confused :S
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November 15, 2009 12:09:51 AM

they are nehalem, so its going to be a small difference (for a huge price)

Xeon E5530 Intel Spec Sheet

or just check the link to newegg stating its the nehalem architecture

EDIT: you beat me to my post
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November 15, 2009 6:56:07 PM

Hey! I'm so glad to have found this post. :bounce:  I'm exactly in the same situation. The only difference is that I already have a SMPS in my current CPU which I was planning to use for my system. I have this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My question is will this suffice in a dual processor environment?

Later on, i also plan to upgrade to a Quadro 4800 card. Will i need a more meaty power supply then? In that case. How much should i look at?
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November 15, 2009 7:22:06 PM

the only reason i picked the psu i picked was because i needed 2 x 8pin EPS 12V

it was one of the cheapest i could find, if the Corsair 650TX has enough connectors you should be fine
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November 15, 2009 7:37:17 PM

mindless728 said:
the only reason i picked the psu i picked was because i needed 2 x 8pin EPS 12V

it was one of the cheapest i could find, if the Corsair 650TX has enough connectors you should be fine


Why would one need two of those connectors? "8pin EPS 12V"
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November 15, 2009 7:42:07 PM

Sorry.. I just realised you needed it for the two processors.. My bad. :D 
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November 15, 2009 9:18:29 PM

well for the motherboard since it needs 2 x 8pin EPS 12V power connectors
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November 16, 2009 12:39:31 PM

thanks for the help guys..i really appreciate it. it helped alot..

do you think that dual xeon can compete with 2 i7 860 over clocked in network rendering?
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November 16, 2009 4:41:33 PM

I have a system for sale on ebay make an offer.

dual x5550 setup along with 12GB off memory. Lenovo D20 check it out on ebay. I paid a pretty penny for it. Dual X5550 would kill almost any setup, you can eventually upgrade to the w5580 chips and sell off the dual x5550.. :D 
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November 16, 2009 7:14:17 PM

bossman032 said:
I have a system for sale on ebay make an offer.

dual x5550 setup along with 12GB off memory. Lenovo D20 check it out on ebay. I paid a pretty penny for it. Dual X5550 would kill almost any setup, you can eventually upgrade to the w5580 chips and sell off the dual x5550.. :D 


is this it Lenova D20 Ebay

if so, that is way more than what he OP wanted to spend, his max was around $3k and i did that

if not, where is your posting, this is the only one that showed
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November 16, 2009 9:50:51 PM

English and learn how to read, make an offer fool.
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November 16, 2009 10:18:39 PM

wow, way to be an asshole, i was only asking because if that is the system, then there was no point in posting since the OP was $3000 or less (and i don't need that kind of power in a computer since i am just a CS student)

if it isn't then you should post the link to his

anyways, this is not the place to sell stuff from
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November 17, 2009 10:29:57 PM

mindless728 said:
wow, way to be an asshole, i was only asking because if that is the system, then there was no point in posting since the OP was $3000 or less (and i don't need that kind of power in a computer since i am just a CS student)

if it isn't then you should post the link to his

anyways, this is not the place to sell stuff from



You commented, I stated best offer, so if right offer OP might actually get a better price for even better system.. :ange:  stop crying..
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November 18, 2009 12:10:57 AM

fair enough, tough it looks like OP has left the building
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November 18, 2009 2:56:53 PM

well, still my client havent paid me yet so got to wait for couple of weeks to buy the workstation..


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November 19, 2009 3:22:51 AM

Hi!
Thanks for all the help! Another question. Will putting in a better graphics card, say a HD5970 or a 5870 make any difference in rendering?
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November 19, 2009 9:30:12 AM

actually it deosnt make any difference as only the processor speed is used at maximum when rendering is going on.. graphics card helps your work flow in the viewports when your handling heavy scenes. the new vray RT GPU rendering might use graphics cards for rendering i guess...
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