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I am trying to get a computer together need some help.

I am 15 (yes, although I don't have a job I have the money) and I decided to make my own computer. I plan on buying within the next couple of weeks. I have made my selections based on my expertise (none) and could use someone elses opinion. I will take all opinions into consideration. Thanks in advance for all of your help.

The following is the parts that I have picked out:


AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard DriveWestern Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1333C9 - Retail

HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

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1. Go easy on the HDD with some nice combo finds and you could hit a quad 955BE (500-640GB)
2. AM3 is dual channel not tri so 2 x 2 DDR3 RAMs would suffice
3. Suggested config, but you may opt to pair with HD4890, way below $1k mark ^^
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/7528.jpg
Clockers, Unlockers and Review: TA790GX A3+ with 955BE
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=222156

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Message edited by batuchka on 08-22-2009 at 03:09:42 PM
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Thanks for those tips I didn't realize that AM3 is not tri channel.
Also I had not gone through the combo packages so now that I have its gonna give me ~$50 off
I decided to go with the following combos:
-CPU & Video Card
-Mobo & Memory (RAM)

I also want to have a combo of this HDD and a power source but I dont know how to pick one out.


Edit: Added correct url for "CPU/GPU combo


Message edited by Scoobysnkk on 08-23-2009 at 04:54:19 AM
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If you want peformance over capacity, get the 640gb Caviar Black. Newer drive than the 750.

That ram in the combo is slow where it counts and is way overpriced. Get 1333+ at Cas 7 for $85 instead. It will allow the CPU to overclock better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820144264

If you need an OS, the mobo you picked can be combo'd with Windows for $25 off.

If you want the option of 2 GPUs later, get a 750w PSU with 4x pcie power connectors. Corsairs is nice, antec, pcpower and cooling, seasonic, silverstone all are good pics. OCZ will do in a pinch, but second on quality to these others.

NOTE: Broken link on CPU/GPU combo

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Message edited by skora on 08-23-2009 at 03:27:30 AM
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i recently have suggested someone a computer for about 1000

CASE - antec 300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042
if u dont care how case looks, but suggest u find urself a case if u want better looking case
CPU - INTEL Q9550 2.83 Quad 12MB L2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115041
COOLER - Artic Freezer 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835186134
HDD - HITACHI 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822145233
Card Reader - u can just get any card readers, most of them are just about the same.
RAM - OCZ Platinum 2X2GB (u can upgrade to 8GB later if needed) PC2 8500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227298
MOBO - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0LGA%20775
PSU - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] MPSU-750TX
GPU - 2 X 4870 1GB XFX HD-487A-ZHFC Radeon HD 4870 (if no gpu upgrade in future)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -487A-ZHFC
or
one GTX 275 EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB (SLI in future)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] P3-1170-AR

if u go with gtx 275 its about 1000, with tax, shipping at newegg,
and i think it will be about 1100 with 2 X 4870 1GBs

also, if u dont need a full terabyte HDD, just get 500 or 640 and save money


Message edited by jhyukkang on 08-23-2009 at 04:50:20 AM
Reply to jhyukkang

Yeah ummm, I was kinda trying to get improvements to the stuff that I selected not a completely new build.

But thanks for your help jhyukkang

Reply to Scoobysnkk

@jhyukkang i wouldn't recommend LGA775 for a new build since the socket doesn't have an upgrade path

Reply to mindless728

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If you want peformance over capacity, get the 640gb Caviar Black. Newer drive than the 750.



Just wondering, how do you know that? I recently ordered my new computer and went with the WD 640gb because of the better reviews... but i never understood why.
Can you explain?

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The 750s use 3x 250gb platters. Then WD created the 320gb platters. The higher density on the same amount of space means more data can be read/write in a single pass of the read/write heads. The 640s use 2x320gb platters.

The drive I"m very much looking forward to seeing benchmarks of is the Samsung Spinpoint F3. It has a single 500gb platter.

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oh wow i never knew that ... thanks for the info! Good thing i went with the 640gb

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skora wrote :

If you want peformance over capacity, get the 640gb Caviar Black. Newer drive than the 750.

That ram in the combo is slow where it counts and is way overpriced. Get 1333+ at Cas 7 for $85 instead. It will allow the CPU to overclock better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820144264

If you need an OS, the mobo you picked can be combo'd with Windows for $25 off.

If you want the option of 2 GPUs later, get a 750w PSU with 4x pcie power connectors. Corsairs is nice, antec, pcpower and cooling, seasonic, silverstone all are good pics. OCZ will do in a pinch, but second on quality to these others.

NOTE: Broken link on CPU/GPU combo





What is wrong with the RAM that I chose???

Reply to Scoobysnkk

skora wrote :

The 750s use 3x 250gb platters. Then WD created the 320gb platters. The higher density on the same amount of space means more data can be read/write in a single pass of the read/write heads. The 640s use 2x320gb platters.

The drive I"m very much looking forward to seeing benchmarks of is the Samsung Spinpoint F3. It has a single 500gb platter.




The seagate 7200.12 is also a 500 gig platter . The samsung is even faster with REPORTED speeds of
140 MB/sec
The charts section of toms
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] ,1010.html

Average read through put by the seagate : FASTER THAN A VELOCIRAPTOR
Max Read Throughput by the seagate : FASTER THAN A VELOCIRAPTOR

Reply to Outlander_04

Scoobysnkk wrote :

What is wrong with the RAM that I chose???


the ram kit you chose is a triple channel kit designed to run with intel core i7 processors in x58 motherboards .

You could install it on a phenom but then you wont have even dual channel since it will have two sticks in one channel and one in the other .

What you want is 2 x2 gig of low latency 1333 MHz DDR3 7-7-7-20 [ or lower ] and voltage under 1.7 volts

Reply to Outlander_04

So we don't hijack this thread, can you peak at this in storage forum and tell me what you think there.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] w=0&nojs=0

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Scoobysnkk wrote :

What is wrong with the RAM that I chose???



Take a few minutes to read this. It will explain things better than I can.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2319.html

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Thanks for that skora I read and am now making a decision accordingly.


Message edited by Scoobysnkk on 08-23-2009 at 07:27:06 AM
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mindless728 wrote :

@jhyukkang i wouldn't recommend LGA775 for a new build since the socket doesn't have an upgrade path



um yeah i was considering i7 also, but i thought since he is on budget, he could save some money on mobo and cpu. also if he is gamer, then better gpu will give better performance than better cpu with less gpu. just my thought...

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batuchka wrote :

1. Go easy on the HDD with some nice combo finds and you could hit a quad 955BE (500-640GB)
2. AM3 is dual channel not tri so 2 x 2 DDR3 RAMs would suffice
3. Suggested config, but you may opt to pair with HD4890, way below $1k mark ^^
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums [...] a/7528.jpg
Clockers, Unlockers and Review: TA790GX A3+ with 955BE
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=222156



I am pretty much going with what you said

CPU: AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

Mobo: BIOSTAR TForce TA790GX A3+ AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

GPU(s): HIS H489FT1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Turbo OC Edition - Retail

Case/PSU:Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply - Retail

CD/DVD Burner: LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe LightScribe Support - OEM


And for the RAM would this work???

Patriot Gamer Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGS34G1600ELKA - Retail

And if the RAM is good the total price is $911.91
As for the monitor I am still undecided and I am going to wait and see how much money I have left


Also, is a 650 watt PSU enough to suport all that? As I was going through the reviews I noticed that some people were saying that they needed to buy an additional PSU to support their systems.


Message edited by Scoobysnkk on 08-24-2009 at 12:00:59 PM
Reply to Scoobysnkk

650 will be enough. If you add a second GPU in the future, then you'd have to use adapters with the molex connectors to power the second GPU. Non issue if you aren't going to go that route.

Be sure to look at combos before you do buy. I'd post a new thread a few days before you click checkout. Also, the i5s may be out by then and well within your budget.

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