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August 22, 2009 6:34:48 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 8/23/2009 to 8/24/2009 are the best times. BUDGET RANGE: HKD $6000-$8000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: HD video watching, gaming (2D and 3D), net surfing (Youtube, places with flash, plain text with annoying ads), homework.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboards, mouse, speakers (maybe)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: As I live in Hong Kong, I'm sure I can round up the required parts and with the computer fair going on these few days, it should be maybe easier.

PARTS PREFERENCES: I am baffled.

OVERCLOCKING: Perhaps. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Not sure.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 which ever is the 16:9 :/ 

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Well basically to sum it up (since the above doesn't help at all), my old computers died (5 and 8 years) and I've been needing a computer that could last 10 or more years. For the motherboard, I've been thinking of X58 but I don't know which brand. Graphics card, I'm not so sure but I'm leaning towards nVidia ones or more specifically, GTX 250 or GTX 260. If there is an ATI one that's good, I would go for that too. Hard drive. Going for a 1TB but don't know which brand. My uncle said Asus would do and they're common here but I'd like more opinions. 4 or 6 GB ram will do I suppose. Ah, the core. Almost forgot. i7 920 maybe? Well definitely i7 but which, I dunno. DVD writer is not too important but info on that would be appreciated. Dunno much about the cooling system but I'm wondering if the above specs would need water cooling(which I only have minimal knowledge of). And uh tower case. I have no idea how big mid and full are so I'll leave it up to you guys to decide. Power need, no idea. All in all, thanks for your replies in advance. Oh and also a nice quiet, sufficient for the system and has some room for improvements while still being energy bill friendly build is best since, well... who wants a noisy energy eater anyways?

EDIT: I love mulit-tasking and I plan to use Windows 7 :3
August 22, 2009 7:05:32 PM

10 years? That's a long time to keep a computer. In ten years your computer is likely to be about as powerful as the (then current) low cost laptop. As for graphics processor go for the ati 4870. It is typically cheaper than the gtx 260, and about the same speed. The gtx 250 is nothing but a shrunken 8800gt, so it is quite outdate. If that is what you want, the ati 4850 is cheaper and more powerful, and when put in crossfire, is quite a powerhouse. Of course, the gtx 275 would be the best single card solution but is quite pricey, as is the ati 4890. Good luck!
August 22, 2009 7:55:53 PM

Greg_77 said:
10 years? That's a long time to keep a computer. In ten years your computer is likely to be about as powerful as the (then current) low cost laptop. As for graphics processor go for the ati 4870. It is typically cheaper than the gtx 260, and about the same speed. The gtx 250 is nothing but a shrunken 8800gt, so it is quite outdate. If that is what you want, the ati 4850 is cheaper and more powerful, and when put in crossfire, is quite a powerhouse. Of course, the gtx 275 would be the best single card solution but is quite pricey, as is the ati 4890. Good luck!


Hmm... If put like this, would a GTX 275 of an ATI 4890 be better? Power consumption, quietness and power are most important. And while I'm at it, which brand? Also, thanks for answering my question.
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August 22, 2009 8:28:13 PM

Your best chance... slim as it is... to last 10 years is an Core i7 920 build. I would go with the following parts.

Core i7 920... Upgrade down the road to the i9 hex core whenever released
ASUS MOBO P6T V2 Deluxe
G.Skill DDR3 1333 6GB (3x2GB) with Cas 7 memory (lower timings than the OCZ Platinums)
Western Digital 640 GB Black or 1TB Black
Corsair 850TX PSU
XFX 4890
Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V or COGAGE True Spirit
Cooler Master HAF 922 or Antec 902
Your choice of DVD or Blu-Ray player or burner
Your choice of thermal compound
August 22, 2009 9:03:15 PM

Slim the budget to $1500 and get one every two years. You can spend 8grand today and Buy 1st of next year be obsolete from a PC that cost much less.

Your logic makes no sense in the technology world. In ten years the ipod will have more power then your 10 year old PC.
August 22, 2009 10:10:14 PM

He said ( APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 8/23/2009 to 8/24/2009 are the best times. BUDGET RANGE: HKD $6000-$8000 )

That comes to about 750 to 1K US dollars




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Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant $84.99
$69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136284
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant $109.99
$94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814161276
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
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-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$199.99
$189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1
HIS Gift - Stormrise Game Coupon Bundle - Retail
Item #: N82E16800999372
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$29.99 Saving $29.99
$0.00



CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

-$60.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$179.99
$119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7T-6GBPK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231230
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128374
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
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-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$269.99
$259.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115202
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$9.00 Instant $288.99
$279.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835233029
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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$44.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Item #: N82E16812816052
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$4.89 Saving $4.89
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Subtotal: $1,205.90

You can get it down to 1080.00 change out the 4980 to a 4870 - change the PSU to a 650 but you wont be able to do SLI or xfire latter - change the 1tb HD to a 640

Dont add a Cooler for your CPU 1030.00

Save 60 more by going with a Gigabyte http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ( but i wouldnt ) The other MOBO is better for the 60 bucks

Check for combo deals and other website as well you mights find a good deal Why_Me posted this board in a differnt post Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EX58U4P
August 23, 2009 8:27:22 AM

Niklas_13 said:
He said ( APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 8/23/2009 to 8/24/2009 are the best times. BUDGET RANGE: HKD $6000-$8000 )

That comes to about 750 to 1K US dollars




SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151188
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

$30.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant $84.99
$69.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136284
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant $109.99
$94.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814161276
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$199.99
$189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1
HIS Gift - Stormrise Game Coupon Bundle - Retail
Item #: N82E16800999372
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$29.99 Saving $29.99
$0.00



CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

-$60.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$179.99
$119.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7T-6GBPK - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231230
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128374
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$269.99
$259.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115202
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$9.00 Instant $288.99
$279.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835233029
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)

$44.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
1
Nippon Labs Black 6 ft. USB cable A/male to B/male Model USB-6-AB-BK - Retail
Item #: N82E16812816052
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$4.89 Saving $4.89
$0.00
Subtotal: $1,205.90

You can get it down to 1080.00 change out the 4980 to a 4870 - change the PSU to a 650 but you wont be able to do SLI or xfire latter - change the 1tb HD to a 640

Dont add a Cooler for your CPU 1030.00

Save 60 more by going with a Gigabyte http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ( but i wouldnt ) The other MOBO is better for the 60 bucks

Check for combo deals and other website as well you mights find a good deal Why_Me posted this board in a differnt post Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EX58U4P


+1 for noticing that the OP is in Hong Kong...
-1 for suggesting Newegg.
August 23, 2009 10:00:53 AM

daship said:
Slim the budget to $1500 and get one every two years. You can spend 8grand today and Buy 1st of next year be obsolete from a PC that cost much less.

Your logic makes no sense in the technology world. In ten years the ipod will have more power then your 10 year old PC.


Yes. That's true. A ten year lasting PC is rather far-fetched. But hey, my 8 year-old lasted 8 years and it wasn't very top notch (even for the time when it came) so I'm sure, with a little more extra care and less bashing out of frustration, a new comp CAN last 10 or more years. And plus, I'm not exactly rich or anything so I don't really want to change parts every year or two.

Anyways, thanks to tecmo34 and niklas_13 for your suggestions. I'm going to go have a look at those prices later today. Anyone else with more suggestions is appreciated.

EDIT: Also, I don't think power is that much of a problem later on. Since I'm more of an old-time gamer with the occasional new game crossing my screen due to recommendation. Errr... quite a bit of new games crossing I guess.
August 23, 2009 10:44:57 AM

Since you had two computers die recently I suppose that now you are without a computer, although you have access to one to send this request for ideas.

As you can see from the suggestions above, you are not going to hit your budget with an i7 processor. I would suggest AMD with AM3 790GX motherboard and DDR3 memory. Get a placeholder processor that will be good for several years, such as a AMD Phenom II X2 550 or AMD Phenom II X3 720 and then upgrade to a 32nm 6 core chip in a couple years.

For graphics, use the on board graphics until the ATI 5000 series boards are out and have dropped in price. Don't be an early adopter. Maybe July 2010.

For a case, I like the Antec 300 and the Cooler master HAF 932.
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