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August 23, 2009 3:27:57 AM

Hi I recently started a project in building a budget Gaming Rig for RTS games, Fallout3, Diablo 3 and Guild Wars and due to unforseen financial circumstances had to cut down on my $900 budget to below $750 can you help me out?

Heres what I have so far:

Windows Vista Home Premium OEM $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWERCOLOR AX4870 1GBD5 Radeon HD Video Card $125 (didn't really need the games)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom 2 and 4gb Gold $236
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Power Supply/Disk Drive $81 (amir)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 300 $39
http://www.unityelectronics.com/product-product_id/5468

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 $24 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $770

Can the price be lowered without sacrificing Performance and get it below $750, any advice will be accepted thanks.
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August 23, 2009 11:55:52 AM

Batuchka, thats the same build he has if he combos the HDD and OS. Yours is just with the combos rearranged and no HSF. Add that and you're at the same $755.

Taking a look at the photos of that mobo though, that heatsink on the NB could interfere with the SB CCFP. I'd hate for you to have to turn the fan blowing any direction other than out the back of the case. But is possible, check the last pick. They are roughly the same size. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article967-page2.html If you want CF as an option, I'd find the extra few buck and get this gigabyte 790X board. It has free shipping so will be less than $10 to upgrade amir.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't care about CF, then the 770 that batucka will work too. But I'd go this route:
Gigabtye 770 AM3 w/ OS combo $25 off ($10 more then with the HDD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
The gigabyte board has more capacitors and for nearly the same price, worth it.

then just buy the HDD by itself.
August 23, 2009 7:08:03 PM

skora said:
Batuchka, thats the same build he has if he combos the HDD and OS. Yours is just with the combos rearranged and no HSF. Add that and you're at the same $755.

Taking a look at the photos of that mobo though, that heatsink on the NB could interfere with the SB CCFP. I'd hate for you to have to turn the fan blowing any direction other than out the back of the case. But is possible, check the last pick. They are roughly the same size. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article967-page2.html If you want CF as an option, I'd find the extra few buck and get this gigabyte 790X board. It has free shipping so will be less than $10 to upgrade amir.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't care about CF, then the 770 that batucka will work too. But I'd go this route:
Gigabtye 770 AM3 w/ OS combo $25 off ($10 more then with the HDD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
The gigabyte board has more capacitors and for nearly the same price, worth it.

then just buy the HDD by itself.


hm. can this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

support the fan I have?

BTW:
here's the new total:
Windows Vista Home Premium OEM/ Gigabyte modo $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

POWERCOLOR AX4870 1GBD5 Radeon HD Video Card $125 (didn't really need the games)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom 2 and 4gb Gold $236
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Power Supply/Disk Drive $81 (amir)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coller Master $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total: $707

Edit:
Never mind, i'll have to find a new fan.
August 23, 2009 10:04:59 PM

The Sunbeam should work with the gigabyte board.
August 24, 2009 12:36:59 AM

skora said:
The Sunbeam should work with the gigabyte board.

Hm, the sunbeam says it fits up to an AM2 socket and the mobo is a AM3 Socket, and the other fan seems just as good.
August 24, 2009 1:10:33 AM

AM2, AM2+, and AM3 all use the same fan mounting bracket!

That titan will not perform as well as the sunbeam. The sunbeam uses direct touch heatpipes. They are better at conducting the heat away than base plate models of old. Who knows where the thermal paste that comes with it came from. At least with the Sunbeam, you get TX-2. Here's a review of thermal paste.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

The only plus I see to the titan is that it comes with a PWM fan. 4-pin means the fan speed can be controlled by the mobo. The sunbeam uses a 3 pin that plugs into a reostat. That means you can control the fan speed anytime, not just when the software is loaded. I'd rather have a PWM, but didn't change mine out. Once I set the reostat to an acceptable noise level and my temps were good, I've never gone back and touched it. Just might be nice for it to slow down when idle and save some power. Here's my NE review of the SB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=3...
August 25, 2009 12:56:45 AM

hey skora nevermind about the previous fan im going with the sunbeam, I just found a how to video that shows you can put any am2 fan on any am bracket so I can keep the sunbeam.

Edit: nevermind I barely read your post you were right my bad on the fan.

any ways here's the final list:

Windows Vista Home Premium OEM/ Gigabyte modo $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

POWERCOLOR AX4870 1GBD5 Radeon HD Video Card $125 (didn't really need the games)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom 2 and 4gb Gold $236
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Power Supply/Disk Drive $81 (amir)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Coller Master $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 $25 (after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $732

Yeah I got it below budget, sweet. Thanks skora.
August 25, 2009 1:11:33 AM

Thats a very solid build. Glad we could help. I don't remember if you plan to OC or not. I'm guessing yes since you have the sunbeam in there. If you are and willing to go over by $7, you can get the 955 instead of the 945.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

They should do similar OCs, but being able to manipulate the multiplier on the black edition might get a little more speed out of it. Either way, you'll be happy with the system.
August 25, 2009 2:39:20 AM

skora said:
Thats a very solid build. Glad we could help. I don't remember if you plan to OC or not. I'm guessing yes since you have the sunbeam in there. If you are and willing to go over by $7, you can get the 955 instead of the 945.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

They should do similar OCs, but being able to manipulate the multiplier on the black edition might get a little more speed out of it. Either way, you'll be happy with the system.


I'll probably consider it down the road, but for now this build is solid and i'll finally get to use that fallout 3 game collecting dust on my shelf, thanks again skora.
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