SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Internet,
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS Vista 64
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg
PARTS PREFERENCES: None really just looking to see if there may be some issues
OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Looking for and issues you have had or heard of from these components. I am concerned about the cpu cooler so please comment on it. Looking for a kick a** system with a sleek design.
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822152102
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Total 1950.32 before rebates of 80.00
Please I would consider liquid cooled for the cpu if there is a good and easy to install system out there. Ive learned a lot from this site and you guys my original build was to weak for what I wanted so I came up with this how did I do.
Dont get the GTX285 superclocked, a single GTX275 will handle that resolution fine, and you can get an EVGA FTW edition one that is clocked way higher for significantly less. Also drop your PSU down to a 750TX if you go for the GTX275's, if you want modular you can get the 750HX or 850HX. You dont need to spend nearly that much on that system.
about the water cooling, anything easily installed is going to be sub-par and is best to make our own loop, though that requires a lot of reading and what not
I'll just snip the whole thing, I just redid parts of it.
Us guys have done the WC thing, there are basics you gotta know. Take a look, don't take it as a diss on you or a rebuttal, look at as a friend saying "Dude, you gotta know what to say and how to communicate".
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CPU HS $65
GPU HS and air HS for vram and mosfets $95, full cover block, $100-$200
Radiator $60 min, up to $130
Pump $50 +
Resiviour $25
Hose, some barbs and clamps etc (min $25, more like $35)
Fans $15-30
I went top notch and spent close to $600 to cool my CPU and GPU.
First you gotta learn about WC. It's not like walking into Best Buy.
Spend a while (weeks is best for your sanity) at these links.
Look at the hundreds of loops close to your case and components in the stickies, read a couple 50 or so threads over the next week or so, you'll be on the ball to make the right choices and by then know how to put it together.
Not 'Roket Sience', but basic knowledge is required.
And you should spend a few hours on the listed sites reading threads. It's how we learn. Once the goodies show up on your doorstep your on your own.
For your benefit please spend a few days reading a LOT. At the busiest places for WC masters. Guys who have done it for YEARS at OC Forums and xtreme forums. It took me a while (I was OCing on air, aftermarket stuff, bios settings, best chipsets etc etc) to learn the language and the tricks to a easy install.
Don't expect miracles or SUPER DOOPER over clocks. What you will get is a quiet system that can handle OC to the max of your hardware IF you buy quality and buy smart. And minor maintenance too, a bonus for the water cooler.
Also while there please read on case mods etc. The radiators are not for small cases, pumps and hose routing, wire management and other things are important. Google your planned case and the word water-cooled in one line. You might get lucky.
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Edit: The next paragraph was from 2008. With the advent of the HOT i7 and bigger GPU's, it has changed. A 220 size MIN rad for an i7, you want big overclocks, better go 320 sized rad.
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IF you just cool your CPU and your NB if you want, you can get by with a 120.2 sized radiator (RAD). And MAYBE fit in inside depending on your mod skillz. You want to cool your GPU too, you'll need a 120.3 sized rad, and it probably won't fit inside. The rear external rad really works great. No matter what your adding 10lbs to your PC.
Once you got an idea of what is good/bad then start getting your system for WC put together and we'll be glad to help.
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Here is the poop on solid info on air/water temps. The link is to an MCR320.
http://martin.skinneelabs.com/Swifte...20-Review.html Scroll half way down and you can see the in/out air diff on the chart. It depends, like I said on fannage what the out air temp vs. the in temp is.
You can also see the water in/out is very close in temps. No more than 1.5 C. Amazing eh? I thought so too once I deciphered the charts.
So if you put a second rad with good airflow, you still get good results. Fannage needs to be higher to compensate for the increased air restriction. Meaning double fans on the rad setup, but it's a viable solution.
Equilibrium (tough word) means with a set heat load (idle/load) after an amount of time temps in a WC loop will stabilize. The heat load is the same, ambient air is the same, fannage is the same, pumps are the same, size of rads are the same, temps will stabilize for those conditions. Any of these parameters change, it has to stabilize. …………………………………………………………
Cleaning a loop, not a new loop: I do this once a year, I drain and refill at 6 months, the next time I do this……..
Wash hands very well, getting rid of hand oils.
For pumps and blocks, fittings, clamps, acrylic res/block parts.... not hose, tear it to smallest pieces, put in a bowl, heat water up not to boiling add 10% vinegar, when hot, pour over parts. Rinse in 10 min or so. Put aside.
The bocks will probably have some black oxidation. Take the copper parts out of the pile of parts you took out of the water. Dry well and pour ketchup on them, and set aside. Only the copper parts need this.
Rad cleaning: fill with very almost boiling hot water. Let sit 10 minutes, drain half out and shake for 5 min. Repeat till liquid is clean.
All the pump, block, fittings, and clamps, inspect, get in the tiniest corners with a tooth brush. Kind of meditative, time consuming, you learn a lot about o-ring size, how it all feels. Run a rag using a caat hanger and dish soap through the tubing, rinse well.
Rinse all the parts and hose with distilled, dry then really dry with an air compressor (nice extra step to get rid of water spots). Don’t need to dry the inside of the hose.
Now on to the copper parts, they should have been soaking an hour or two. A toothbrush and ketchup should clean much of the oxidation. It probably won’t be like new, but pretty darn good. Rinse, dry, and blow the parts.
That’s it.
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Benching software and such is very varied. I use these for each purpose:
These are pretty standard and used by many.
Monitoring the PC temps overall: HWmonitor aka hardware monitor
CPUZ for CPU info
GPUZ for GPU info
CPU only: RealTemp
GPU only: ATI Tool, I have a Nivida GTX280, so it works on Nvidia
well that last post made it easy I'll be sticking to air cooled. So does anyone know of a good cooler other than what I have. I'm looking to oc to 3.5 area
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CoGage True Spirit Heatpipe CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Silent Fan for Intel LGA1366 $37.95
(it is similar to the ThermalRight and cools within 1 or 2 degrees' of it)
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If you go with the CoGage, I would suggest this Mounting Bracket over the Push-Pin one that comes with the Cooler. Thermalright LGA1366 Bolt-Thru-Kit Retail BOX Bolt-thru Board Mounting kit $9.95
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If you want one of the Best CPU HSF Cooler for the Core i7 then I would suggest this one, but it is more expensive. Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT Premium Heatpipe Cooler for Intel LGA1366 $74.95
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Thanks that is what I was looking for. I know it's over kill but I tend to do this once every 3 years so I wants some future proofing. Do you see any issues. I went with the dark knight cooler and added the 8pin and thermal paste. I am concerned with heat for the gpu's any suggestions.
[quotemsg=1978959,8,140710]Lets see if I can help you.
Thanks that is what I was looking for. I know it's over kill but I tend to do this once every 3 years so I wants some future proofing. Do you see any issues. I went with the dark knight cooler and added the 8pin and thermal paste. I am concerned with heat for the gpu's any suggestions.
Unless you are set for the Case you have picked, you could go with one of these two which have better Airflow.
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