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:bounce: Good day, and thanks in advance for any help. My "old" rig recently crapped the bed with a fried MOBO (presumably.) I've been..."lightly" exposed to computer hardware and the building/maintenance of such. Besides recent research I am also an "Aviation Electricians' Mate" in the USN, where I deal with computers/electricity etc...daily. I am by NO means an "expert" however in PC builds, and do not have a serious "in-depth" understanding of the many complexities of PC's. However, I do feel as though I have a grasp on the whole process and I am inclined to continue efforts towards becoming ..."in-the-know".

"My Intentions"
I have (near as I can figure) everything that I will need to complete a new build; tools, even an ESD kit, and a foundation of knowledge on the sensitivity of the components and electrical theory. Now, what I want to build is a new machine with the capacity to sustain upgrades in the predictable future, be capapble of multi-tasking and have enough power to "hang-with-the-majors" (potentially.) From my entry-level research that I've done, the following is the build that I've composed as a "draft" so-to-speak. So, what I'm looking for is input & advice to possible considerations I haven't made through ignorance; to improve compatibility, upgrade-"ability", and most importantly COST-EFFECTIVENESS.
I find that in the spirit of cost-effectiveness I have settled on an AMD build as a basis opposed to Intel, but for the record I am open to all suggestions and have no real bias against Intel. So without further a-do, here is what I'm thinking of;

Motherboard
Biostar TA790GX 128M Motherboard - AMD 790GX, AM2+ 128MB DDR2 Side-Port, ATI Hybrid, CrossFire, PCIe 2.0, Gigabit, USB2.0, RAID, HDMI/DVI
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4408236&Sku=B450-2378

OR

Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P Motherboard - AMD 790FX, Socket AM3, ATX, Audio, CrossFireX, PCI Express 2.0, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0, SATA, RAID
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4485041&sku=G452-1008&srkey=gigabyte%20MA790FXT


CPU
AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad Core Processor HD9600WCGDBOX - 2.30GHz, 4MB Cache, 1800MHz (3600 MT/s) FSB, Agena, Quad-Core, Retail, Socket AM2+, Processor with Fan (1.05 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3476411&Sku=CP1-AM2-9600

OR

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Dual Core Processor - 3.10GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s), Retail, Unlocked Multiplier
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4695457&CatId=4432

RAM
2x Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 4096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 2048MB) (0.4 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3228139&CatId=3412

OR

?? havent really decided yet



GPU
Visiontek Radeon HD 3870 Video Card - 512MB GDDR4, PCI Express 2.0, CrossFireX Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, HDMI Support, Video Card (1.3 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4513766&CatId=3670

(very open to GPU suggestions; primarily CrossFire ready options)

Hard Drive
Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4034139&CatId=2459

PSU
XION Power Real 1000W ATX Power Supply (2.74 lbs)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4494091&sku=A406-1116&srkey=XION%20Power%20Real%201000W%20ATX%20Power%20Supply%20(2.74%20lbs)

All wrapped up in the ever-sexy;

CASE
Cooler Master HAF 922M ATX Black Mid-Tower Case - 5 External 5.25" Drive Bays, 5 Internal 3.5" Drive Bays, 2 200mm Fans, 1 120mm Fan (30 lbs)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197&Tpk=Cooler%20Master%20HAF%20922M%20ATX%20Black%20Mid-Tower%20Case%20-


I'm sure the PSU is more than I will need; however in the spirit of ever changing technology I want my purchases to last beyond the original intent. As for the rest of it, if it isn't inherently obvious the primary options would go together and the "OR"'s respectively together; the two builds range from ~$710 to ~$900 (not including S&H.) All of my options are negotiable (hence my post) and I'm open to suggestions to all aspects, my purchasing timeline is lenient and will mostly likely be within the next few months and I would like to keep the price tag below $1,000 (I know the complexity of such a timeline as I'm sure much of the latest and greatest will appear during such.) However, I'm a fan of staying just one step behind the times for the sake of reduced prices, as such I love bargains as much as the next person.

I will not be needing mouse, keyboard, optical drive , or a monitor (though I have considered upgrading my current.)

Hoping to hear from a more enlightened source,
(Much love :love: [haha])
-"devvo"


p.s. I am ignorant to all aspects of "overclocking" but would be willing to learn and apply the process if it helps (as I'm sure it would, and I would eventually like to make it a standard practice in the future) to re-thinking my builds.
 
Hi...
You have come up with pretty good parts but could do better though...
Here are a few suggestions that could help...

1. CPU - The X2 550 is really a very good option...but the 9600 is a old-gen CPU, that doesnt has good performance...So better stay away from that...
Even you can consider this CPU - X3 720...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103649

2. Mobo - You wont need that 790FX mobo...It is mainly an enthusiast chip so for general usage and moderate overclock, the 790GX or the 790X chipset mobos are more than suffice...
Here is a good combo of the mobo + CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.239847

But if you dont plan to add multiple graphics card, then this mobo is more than suffice...
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT-UD2H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128397

As the above mobos are AM3 socket ones, you would require DDR3 RAM...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

Graphics card - HD 4870 1GB would be very good if you want a powerful gaming PC
XFX HD 4870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150394
Else even this card would be good for resolutions upto 1440X900 or in some games till 1680X1050...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150351

PSU - Better get high quality ones...And IMHO you wont require 1000W...Well if you are planning to add 4 graphics card, then they might be of use...
Suggestions -
If you have planned for crossfire, then get this PSU at the max...
Corsair 750TX - For 2x HD 4870/ 4890/ GTX 275
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
Else -
Antec EA 650 - For Upto 2x HD 4850s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015
 

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Thanks for the recommendations, I'm considering all of them; and to note, my goal isn't so much $1000 its more a less-than issue; the cheapest; most upgradeable "future-proof" so to speak. I went with the 1000w PSU because I do want to get my foot in the door of enthusiaism, also I'm trying to keep the case/psu/hard-drive through more than one build; on the same token thats why I kind of "fell for" the MOBO in my build; its ridiculously upgradeable.
 
I didn't see an OS in your original build. Some of those choices definitely need reconsidered (like the old 3870 GPU). This build comes in right at $1,000, uses all high-quality current generation hardware, includes the OS, and is very upgradeable.

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 $99.99

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674

ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.239849 $312.98 - $15.00 MIR (CPU + motherboard combo)

mushkin XP 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996657 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146871 $99.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825 $149.99

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM (Includes free Windows 7 updrade coupon)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.235895.22-136-284 $189.98 (HD + OS combo)

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188 $30.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=750tx $119.99 - $10.00 MIR

Total - $1,003.91 - $25.00 MIR's
 

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Indeed, that is a beautiful build; now I know why I ask questions :D -- Thanks for the input; I've appreciated all of it. Now pretty much all thats left is just a little bit more research for my self and the bank roll to fund this party!

Thx;
-devvo