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August 25, 2009 8:31:58 PM

Hello
This is the first time I attempt to build a pc so far I've picked the following components listed below. I am primarily going to use the pc to watch full HD movies and play games.

I would like your feedback. Also I’m going to have the system connected to my 42" full HD LG LCD TV.

The graphic card I’ve chosen has 4 DVI ports. The only way I can think of connecting it to my LCD TV is with a hdmi-dvi-d cable is this correct?


This is my setup

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100270SR Radeon HD 4850 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8 G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Please let me know if some of the components won’t work in my setup, also if there are better alternatives in the same price range.
Do I need any extra cooling or will my setup do?

All advice is appreciated
August 25, 2009 8:44:55 PM

You don't want to use a green edition HD for your main system drive. Those drives are slower to save on energy use. The green drives are good for strictly storage drives, or in a HTPC, but the black edition drives make much more sense for a system drive.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM $94.99 + 10% off with promo code HD8251X.

I also didn't see an OS in your build. You can bundle your OS with the HD to save $15.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
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August 25, 2009 9:15:06 PM

will the single 4890 recommended by obsidian86 which has 1 gb memory handle games, like gta iv and other similar games coming out in the near future to run smoothly at highest resolutions and details?
August 25, 2009 9:22:03 PM

Nobody can say for sure how a GPU will perform with a game that hasn't even been released yet, but the 4890 1GB card is a very nice GPU that performs well at high resolutions on current games.
August 25, 2009 9:27:06 PM

2 4850's are only bout 5%-10% better then a single 4890 but the 4890 is smaller and runs a bit cooler an draws less power if you want to max out everything except crysis on a 30'' 2 4890's would do an amazing job
August 26, 2009 5:25:30 AM

OK thanks alot for the feedback.
What about the PSU will it provide adequate power for my system?
And as for the motherboard will it be able to fit 2 gpus for crossfire i mean space wise? ive read that it can be somewhat tricky to fit everything in on certain motherboards.
August 26, 2009 5:34:56 AM

The Corsair will be more than adequate. In fact a TX750 would do. Less reserve power, mind you, but it would do.
August 26, 2009 6:09:19 AM

ok, thought so aswell however I was trying to be on the safe side incase of future upgrades.

As for the GPU could someone post a link to what type of cable i need to connect it to my lcd tv for best picture quality playing games and watching movies. my tv has VGA and HDMI slots
August 26, 2009 7:31:23 AM

maxwellm said:
ok, thought so aswell however I was trying to be on the safe side incase of future upgrades.

As for the GPU could someone post a link to what type of cable i need to connect it to my lcd tv for best picture quality playing games and watching movies. my tv has VGA and HDMI slots

There are a couple of ways to go about it.

Here is one way where you get a HDMI/DisplayPort Cable & Adapter and then connect it by using a HMDI cable.
Kingwin HDMI Female (19 pin) to DVI Male (24+1 pin) Adapter $4.99
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

The other way is to get a HMDI to DVI cable, depending on how far your computer is from your LCD TV will raise the costs.
BYTECC 25 ft. HDMI Male to DVI-D Male Single Link Cable Model HDMID-25 - Retail $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BYTECC 10 ft. HDMI Male to DVI-D Male Single Link Cable Model HDMID-10 - Retail $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I hope this helped you out.

August 26, 2009 10:20:28 AM

Yoosty said:
There are a couple of ways to go about it.

Here is one way where you get a HDMI/DisplayPort Cable & Adapter and then connect it by using a HMDI cable.
Kingwin HDMI Female (19 pin) to DVI Male (24+1 pin) Adapter $4.99
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

The other way is to get a HMDI to DVI cable, depending on how far your computer is from your LCD TV will raise the costs.
BYTECC 25 ft. HDMI Male to DVI-D Male Single Link Cable Model HDMID-25 - Retail $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BYTECC 10 ft. HDMI Male to DVI-D Male Single Link Cable Model HDMID-10 - Retail $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I hope this helped you out.




Yes thanx alot it was helpful. Think i will go for the first alternative with an adapter seeing as i already have a HDMI cable. I hope there isnt a loss in quality compared to the second alternative.

I'am still on the fence about the GPU whether to go with the HD 4850 x2 or 2 4890 both will give me 2gb but which one will perform better? when i choose my graphics card i reffered to the TH august chart for GPUs
August 26, 2009 11:05:35 AM

You might want to wait until after ATI comes out with its 5xxx cards supposely on Sept 10th before getting new graphic card. Also when they do come out with them, the 4xxx series cards prices will drop.
August 26, 2009 11:32:33 AM

The only thing I can add to what others have said is this: if you plan on even mildly overclock your CPU (a thing everybody does on 920 since it is so good for it) then the stock cooler won't suffice.

Get a good aftermark air cooler as the Xigmatek Dark Knight or Thermalright Ultra 120 RT (or Extreme Rev. A for 1366) or something similar. Also a liquid cooler as the Corsair H50 is very good if you want to go liquid for the less weight.

I will buy an aftermark cooler also if not overclocking, mind you. The noise of the stock cooler is really too much for me to handle, above all if the ambient temperature is above 20 degrees, and if you are interested even barely on your PC not sounding like a jet, then your ears will thank you for the buy ;-)
August 26, 2009 1:29:37 PM

Yoosty said:
You might want to wait until after ATI comes out with its 5xxx cards supposely on Sept 10th before getting new graphic card. Also when they do come out with them, the 4xxx series cards prices will drop.


thanks for the advice i might go with a single 4890 for now and in a couple of months add another to run crossfire if needed. hopefully i will get it at a cheaper price due to newer models being out. The 4890 1 gb should be able to handle Gta iv and full hd movies for now shouldnt it?
August 26, 2009 2:12:29 PM

selea said:
The only thing I can add to what others have said is this: if you plan on even mildly overclock your CPU (a thing everybody does on 920 since it is so good for it) then the stock cooler won't suffice.

Get a good aftermark air cooler as the Xigmatek Dark Knight or Thermalright Ultra 120 RT (or Extreme Rev. A for 1366) or something similar. Also a liquid cooler as the Corsair H50 is very good if you want to go liquid for the less weight.

I will buy an aftermark cooler also if not overclocking, mind you. The noise of the stock cooler is really too much for me to handle, above all if the ambient temperature is above 20 degrees, and if you are interested even barely on your PC not sounding like a jet, then your ears will thank you for the buy ;-)



Thanks a lot for the tip selea. Ive looked around abit trying to find information of best way to cool down a core i7, i didnt come up with to much. I might go for one of the coolers u mentioned however i need to make sure they fit my motherboard.
I would prefer to go with a water cooler but i feel im far to novice to set that up as it seems quite complicated. Will the air coolers keep down the noise as well as a the liquid cooler would?
August 26, 2009 3:22:00 PM

maxwellm said:
Thanks a lot for the tip selea. Ive looked around abit trying to find information of best way to cool down a core i7, i didnt come up with to much. I might go for one of the coolers u mentioned however i need to make sure they fit my motherboard.
I would prefer to go with a water cooler but i feel im far to novice to set that up as it seems quite complicated. Will the air coolers keep down the noise as well as a the liquid cooler would?

Either one of those two will fit your motherboard and not block any ram slots. Here are some more for you to look at also.

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail $44.98 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Scythe MUGEN-2 $36.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CoGage True Spirit Heatpipe CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Silent Fan for Intel LGA1366 $37.95
(It is similar to the ThermalRight and cools within 1 or 2 degrees' of it.)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

If you do get the CoGage True Spirit, I would suggest this Mounting Bracket, instead of the Push-Pin one that come with it.
Thermalright LGA1366 Bolt-Thru-Kit Retail BOX Bolt-thru Board Mounting kit $9.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

If you want one of the Best CPU HSF Cooler for the Core i7 then I would suggest this one, but it is more expensive.
Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT Premium Heatpipe Cooler for Intel LGA1366 $74.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

One of the latest Reviews on 1366 CPU HSF Coolers'.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/07/23/intel_core_i7...
August 26, 2009 3:57:40 PM

Yoosty said:
Either one of those two will fit your motherboard and not block any ram slots. Here are some more for you to look at also.

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail $44.98 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Scythe MUGEN-2 $36.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CoGage True Spirit Heatpipe CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Silent Fan for Intel LGA1366 $37.95
(It is similar to the ThermalRight and cools within 1 or 2 degrees' of it.)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

If you do get the CoGage True Spirit, I would suggest this Mounting Bracket, instead of the Push-Pin one that come with it.
Thermalright LGA1366 Bolt-Thru-Kit Retail BOX Bolt-thru Board Mounting kit $9.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

If you want one of the Best CPU HSF Cooler for the Core i7 then I would suggest this one, but it is more expensive.
Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT Premium Heatpipe Cooler for Intel LGA1366 $74.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

One of the latest Reviews on 1366 CPU HSF Coolers'.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/07/23/intel_core_i7...



I sure will consider thermalright. one final question and then i think I have a pretty good idea of how my final setup will look. will the graphics card need a extra cooler or will the cpu cooler help cooldown the whole system?
August 26, 2009 4:26:16 PM

ypu can get some cards with specialized cooling like the 4890 vapor x or the msi 4890 cyclone
August 27, 2009 12:47:41 PM

i have decided to go with the XFX Radeon HD4890 XXX 1 GB however im hearing that some have problems connecting it to their psu. something about some psu's not having a 8-pins pci-e connection, I tried to look fo rinformation on my psu but can't figure our if my psu will be able to connect power to the card?
August 27, 2009 3:33:40 PM

maxwellm said:
i have decided to go with the XFX Radeon HD4890 XXX 1 GB however im hearing that some have problems connecting it to their psu. something about some psu's not having a 8-pins pci-e connection, I tried to look fo rinformation on my psu but can't figure our if my psu will be able to connect power to the card?

Both the Corsair 750TX and 850TX have 4 x 6+2-Pin (8-pin) PCI-Express power connectors, so they will easily power even crossfire 4890's.
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