Hello everyone, someone, anyone,
I got curious about liquid cooling and have been reading, reading, reading, (and plan to read a LOT more)(both here at Tom's ans Overclockers forums) and plan on a future build eventually since I lost my last one to an apartment fire. I still havent quite gotten this Delta T thing. I understand what it is. Trying to figure it out for what I plan to build isnt working. The problem lies with info on the rad I think. I'll keep seeking.
I have a few questions that are more individual preference related, but I'd like to hear your views.
Order of loop: Most say order doesnt matter as long as the pump is right after the res. Q; any forseeable problems with res-pump-cpu/gpu-rad? To me it makes more sense to store already cooled water in the res. I plan on a drive bay res, and external Black Ice Extreme III rad.
CPU Block: I was planning on the Swiftech Apogee XT (rev 2), but I read that the XSPC Rasa is also a very good block. The Rasa actually specifies for LGA 1156 (I am planning an 1155 build). And I know is cheaper. But I look for quality, and I know it isnt cheap. but I'll save for it ---once. Any thoughts and ideas?
GPU Block: Here I was origianlly looking at the Swiftech MCW82, but I am planning on an MSIR6950 Twin Frozr III PE/OC card so went looking at whole card coolers, even though they are quite a bit more. I settled on a Heatkiller GPU X3 69x0 Hole edition from Frozen CPU.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12899/ex-blc-896/Heatkiller_GPU-X_69X0_-Hole_Edition-_ATI_Radeon_6950_6970_Reference_Design_Full_Coverage_Water_Block_15010.html?tl=g30c309s1373
Oh.....I read to limit things like elbows and such in a loop because they restrict flow.......What about a "T" block like this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13666/ex-tub-961/Phobya_180_Degree_T_Bock_-_Black_Nickel_64092.html?tl=g30c499s745
My Idea here I heard in a write up by someone testing, and it was to split to go to the cpu and gpu so both have fresh coolant, then "T" them back together right after the blocks (still running 1/2" tubing?) Or should I reduce tubing size between the "T" and cpu/gpu blocks? (i.e. 1/2"--Tee#1--1/2"--cpu block--1/2"--Tee#2--1/2"-----OR----- 1/2"--Tee#1--3/8"--cpu block--3/8"--Tee#2--1/2").
Variable Speed Fan Controllers: Are these any good at all for Rad fans? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9091/bus-191/Manual_12V_Variable_Speed_Controller_-_4-Pin_Molex_Connector.html?tl=g47c17
To neaten up wireing and the inside of the case, I will leave the rad outside, sheath the wiring, and want to run the rad fans into 1 block. with the contoller after it.......
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14094/ele-936/Phobya_4-Pin_Power_Distribution_PCB_6x_3-Pin_Block_81097.html?tl=g47c121s424
Rad Fans: In research from stickies, it looks like Yate Loon is one of the better cheaper fans. The Sythe gental Typhoon's are supposed to be a little better. Was thinking of these Yate's for the rad:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6177/fan-347/Yate_Loon_120mm_x_25mm_UV_Reactive_LED_Fan_-_UV_Blue_D12SH-124UB.html?tl=g36c15s60
Yah, I know, a little noisy on high, but thats where the idea of the controller comes in. Shouldnt have to run on high all the time.
Ok, should have said this first I guess......I was planning on an i5 2500k build. and after learning Overclolcking on my now deceased AMD 955BE rig, this and the GPU will be O.C.'d, for education purposes, but not necessarily left at max clocks all the time, thus the reason to use high speed fans, yet lower them when not needed.
Distilled water with a silver killcoil, pt nuke, and no dyes as per stickies. (although my original plan was primochill clear which had good reviews) 1/2" Primochill tubing as I want mass flow, not sure on color, probably UV blue and something else). XSPC 5.25 bay res,Swiftech MCP655-B pump.
Lastly (for now)... Anyone know of any one stop shopping sites for water cooling parts? I was at 3 and now a fourth with the pt-nuke. So far I have Danger Den, Frozen CPU, and Heatsink factory. None carry the pt nuke though. Looks like Side Winder Computers for that. Frozen CPU has the bigger selection, but not everything I wanted. Just curious of other good sites to order from. I know "google it". That doesnt rate the site. Only you who have ordered would know.
Any computer parts come from NewEgg only. They have always done good by me. (but then again, I never had to RMA anything).
Thanks for any help. If I did something wrong, please dont be mad, just edumacate me. Sorry this is so long and not well constructed.
I got curious about liquid cooling and have been reading, reading, reading, (and plan to read a LOT more)(both here at Tom's ans Overclockers forums) and plan on a future build eventually since I lost my last one to an apartment fire. I still havent quite gotten this Delta T thing. I understand what it is. Trying to figure it out for what I plan to build isnt working. The problem lies with info on the rad I think. I'll keep seeking.
I have a few questions that are more individual preference related, but I'd like to hear your views.
Order of loop: Most say order doesnt matter as long as the pump is right after the res. Q; any forseeable problems with res-pump-cpu/gpu-rad? To me it makes more sense to store already cooled water in the res. I plan on a drive bay res, and external Black Ice Extreme III rad.
CPU Block: I was planning on the Swiftech Apogee XT (rev 2), but I read that the XSPC Rasa is also a very good block. The Rasa actually specifies for LGA 1156 (I am planning an 1155 build). And I know is cheaper. But I look for quality, and I know it isnt cheap. but I'll save for it ---once. Any thoughts and ideas?
GPU Block: Here I was origianlly looking at the Swiftech MCW82, but I am planning on an MSIR6950 Twin Frozr III PE/OC card so went looking at whole card coolers, even though they are quite a bit more. I settled on a Heatkiller GPU X3 69x0 Hole edition from Frozen CPU.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12899/ex-blc-896/Heatkiller_GPU-X_69X0_-Hole_Edition-_ATI_Radeon_6950_6970_Reference_Design_Full_Coverage_Water_Block_15010.html?tl=g30c309s1373
Oh.....I read to limit things like elbows and such in a loop because they restrict flow.......What about a "T" block like this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13666/ex-tub-961/Phobya_180_Degree_T_Bock_-_Black_Nickel_64092.html?tl=g30c499s745
My Idea here I heard in a write up by someone testing, and it was to split to go to the cpu and gpu so both have fresh coolant, then "T" them back together right after the blocks (still running 1/2" tubing?) Or should I reduce tubing size between the "T" and cpu/gpu blocks? (i.e. 1/2"--Tee#1--1/2"--cpu block--1/2"--Tee#2--1/2"-----OR----- 1/2"--Tee#1--3/8"--cpu block--3/8"--Tee#2--1/2").
Variable Speed Fan Controllers: Are these any good at all for Rad fans? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9091/bus-191/Manual_12V_Variable_Speed_Controller_-_4-Pin_Molex_Connector.html?tl=g47c17
To neaten up wireing and the inside of the case, I will leave the rad outside, sheath the wiring, and want to run the rad fans into 1 block. with the contoller after it.......
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14094/ele-936/Phobya_4-Pin_Power_Distribution_PCB_6x_3-Pin_Block_81097.html?tl=g47c121s424
Rad Fans: In research from stickies, it looks like Yate Loon is one of the better cheaper fans. The Sythe gental Typhoon's are supposed to be a little better. Was thinking of these Yate's for the rad:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6177/fan-347/Yate_Loon_120mm_x_25mm_UV_Reactive_LED_Fan_-_UV_Blue_D12SH-124UB.html?tl=g36c15s60
Yah, I know, a little noisy on high, but thats where the idea of the controller comes in. Shouldnt have to run on high all the time.
Ok, should have said this first I guess......I was planning on an i5 2500k build. and after learning Overclolcking on my now deceased AMD 955BE rig, this and the GPU will be O.C.'d, for education purposes, but not necessarily left at max clocks all the time, thus the reason to use high speed fans, yet lower them when not needed.
Distilled water with a silver killcoil, pt nuke, and no dyes as per stickies. (although my original plan was primochill clear which had good reviews) 1/2" Primochill tubing as I want mass flow, not sure on color, probably UV blue and something else). XSPC 5.25 bay res,Swiftech MCP655-B pump.
Lastly (for now)... Anyone know of any one stop shopping sites for water cooling parts? I was at 3 and now a fourth with the pt-nuke. So far I have Danger Den, Frozen CPU, and Heatsink factory. None carry the pt nuke though. Looks like Side Winder Computers for that. Frozen CPU has the bigger selection, but not everything I wanted. Just curious of other good sites to order from. I know "google it". That doesnt rate the site. Only you who have ordered would know.
Any computer parts come from NewEgg only. They have always done good by me. (but then again, I never had to RMA anything).
Thanks for any help. If I did something wrong, please dont be mad, just edumacate me. Sorry this is so long and not well constructed.