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600W, DDR3 3GB, Phenom II, Asus mobo, PLEASE help! :D

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August 26, 2009 2:14:33 AM

HI VIEWER, PLEASE RESPOND :D  I WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY OUT WHEN I GET THIS DONE!

My specs will be:


-COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

-OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ... - Retail

1. How do dual 12V rails work? Do I need to worry about them? This has 2 25A rails!


-Patriot Viper 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT33G1333LLK - Retail



-ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail


2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB)




-AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail


3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS


MUCH appreiciated guys, I will help out the community once I get my build together!!
August 26, 2009 2:37:21 AM

1. How do dual 12V rails work? Do I need to worry about them? This has 2 25A rails! With out knowing your GPU or plans to Crossfire/SLI or not, I can't say if the PSU is good. You don't have to worry about the rails.

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB) I would not buy a triple channel memory for AMD. I would buy a 4GB DDR3 memory set with low timings (CAS 7 or less)

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS I've checked ASUS's website ( http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=KX5kXQSmyaQaXVEP&... ) and it looks like the X2 545 requires BIOS 0602, which is an updated BIOS. I can't tell you for sure that the MOBO you buy will not already have the updated BIOS or not... It is a roll of the dice.
August 26, 2009 2:57:00 AM

tecmo34 said:
1. How do dual 12V rails work? Do I need to worry about them? This has 2 25A rails! With out knowing your GPU or plans to Crossfire/SLI or not, I can't say if the PSU is good. You don't have to worry about the rails.

2. Can I use the forth socket with a peice of DDR3 with more memory? (e.g. 2GB) I would not buy a triple channel memory for AMD. I would buy a 4GB DDR3 memory set with low timings (CAS 7 or less)

3.. I need to know if this will work out of the box without having to upgrade my BIOS I've checked ASUS's website ( http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=KX5kXQSmyaQaXVEP&... ) and it looks like the X2 545 requires BIOS 0602, which is an updated BIOS. I can't tell you for sure that the MOBO you buy will not already have the updated BIOS or not... It is a roll of the dice.
I really hope it does, because I don't have any CPUs to update it with. Is there a way I can do this?

I found 4GB DDR3 1333 with 7 timings, 2x2, thanks for that advice.

So would a OCZ 600W dual 25A be better than P&C500W single 35A? Both are 80% and PFC cert, I have no plans for SLI.

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August 26, 2009 3:12:19 AM

mobo360 said:
I really hope it does, because I don't have any CPUs to update it with. Is there a way I can do this?

I found 4GB DDR3 1333 with 7 timings, 2x2, thanks for that advice.

So would a OCZ 600W dual 25A be better than P&C500W single 35A? Both are 80% and PFC cert, I have no plans for SLI.

A lot of MOBO's will let you still bootup with an unsupport CPU. It will just run the CPU at lower speeds and be listed as "Unsupport CPU" or something like that in the BIOS. Once you flash your BIOS, you would be good to go.

It is hard to say on the PSU. They both seem good. I would lean towards the PC Power&Cooling but if the cost is the same... stick with the OCZ.
August 26, 2009 3:15:29 AM

tecmo34 said:
A lot of MOBO's will let you still bootup with an unsupport CPU. It will just run the CPU at lower speeds and be listed as "Unsupport CPU" or something like that in the BIOS. Once you flash your BIOS, you would be good to go.

It is hard to say on the PSU. They both seem good. I would lean towards the PC Power&Cooling but if the cost is the same... stick with the OCZ.
You just made me the happiest person alive. I thought that I would have issues with not being able to flash the BIOS!!I thought that I would have to bring it into a store or buy another AMD just to flash it. Thank you so much for that peice of info!! I think I'm ready to order now, thanks for your help, really. : D


August 26, 2009 3:22:26 AM

Hi, :hello: 

This is my 2 month old Gaming rig it worked out of the box...then I did the BIOS and all the drivers that needed an upgrade. I had to redo the timing in the BIOS for the Memory because it was causing my comp to freeze up.

I would recommend the PII X2 550 Black Edition for $10.00 more, later if you want to try to activate the other 2 cores you can if your lucky to have a chip with 4 good cores, I have all 4 cores up & running stable with this hardware setup:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX
Mem: OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-20 240-pin DDR3
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2
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VC: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB OEM
DVDROM: Sony Optiarc Black 24X Rewritable Drive - OEM
CASE: Antec 900
August 26, 2009 3:26:35 AM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

This is my 2 month old Gaming rig it worked out of the box...then I did the BIOS and all the drivers that needed an upgrade. I had to redo the timing in the BIOS for the Memory because it was causing my comp to freeze up.

I would recommend the PII X2 550 Black Edition for $10.00 more, later if you want to try to activate the other 2 cores you can if your lucky to have a chip with 4 good cores, I have all 4 cores up & running stable with this hardware setup:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX
Mem: OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-20 240-pin DDR3
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2
--------------
VC: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB OEM
DVDROM: Sony Optiarc Black 24X Rewritable Drive - OEM
CASE: Antec 900


So you have a similar setup as me! Cool. For me the Black Edition is $25 dollars more. In the specs I can see it only offers 0.1Ghz more FSB and main clock, and I don't think the $25 is worth it personally, as I can probably OC to that level fine. Or is it actually a lot better? I'm already pushing my budget quite a bit as it is..
August 26, 2009 3:35:25 AM

Hi, :hello: 

Yes the black edition is better, if u intend to overclock & activate all 4 cores...Do u live in the US ?

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Retail $92.00 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Retail $102.00 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
August 26, 2009 3:38:56 AM

The Black Edition in Canada is about a $20 difference. I know the BE is better but I'm saying that's it's hardly anything noticable.
August 26, 2009 3:43:48 AM

Donno if this helps.. but i have a Corei7 920 ,6gb, 2 HD's geforce 275... 5 case fans and a Anteck 650 which has 4 rails... I've been running solid for a month using only 1 rail.
August 26, 2009 3:49:28 AM

mobo360 said:
The Black Edition in Canada is about a $20 difference. I know the BE is better but I'm saying that's it's hardly anything noticable.


Hi, :hello: 

Ok I understand $$, be very careful with the Memory your MoBo is: Memory Standard DDR3 1800(O.C.)/1600(O.C.) /1333/1066...so do not go higer than the 1333. [OC] in memory means it does not work out of the box without a change in the BIOS. You will only need 4GBs get 2 sticks because it is Dual Memory system.

This was the first time I ever went into the BIOS to make changes, it is very easy to do :love: 

August 26, 2009 3:53:46 AM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

Ok I understand $$, be very careful with the Memory your MoBo is: Memory Standard DDR3 1800(O.C.)/1600(O.C.) /1333/1066...so do not go higer than the 1333. [OC] in memory means it does not work out of the box without a change in the BIOS. You will only need 4GBs get 2 sticks because it is Dual Memory system.

This was the first time I ever went into the BIOS to make changes, it is very easy to do :love: 


I wonder how long 1333 DDR3 RAM will last until it's obsolete... I might need to do the BIOS thing you suggested in a year for faster ram..
August 26, 2009 4:01:22 AM

Hi, :hello: 

Most everything you buy Today is obsolete Yesterday...that is way it is good to do alot of research before u build :love: 
August 26, 2009 4:02:13 AM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

Most everything you buy Today is obsolete Yesterday...that is way it is good to do alot of research before u build :love: 
Do you think my build is worth it?
August 26, 2009 4:49:53 AM

mobo360 said:
Do you think my build is worth it?

Hi, :hello: 

Sorry I don't have the knowledge to comment, there are plenty of good people here who will help you but you need to take the time to ask...read this:

*How To Ask For New Build Advice*
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

Read Proximon's *Guide to Choosing Parts*.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choos...

edit: I use my build for Gaming /World of Warcraft & Surfing the internet...What will you be using your new build for?
August 26, 2009 4:54:04 AM

Jim937 said:
Hi, :hello: 

Sorry I don't have the knowledge to comment, there are plenty of good people here who will help you but you need to take the time to ask...read this:

*How To Ask For New Build Advice*
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

Read Proximon's *Guide to Choosing Parts*.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choos...

edit: I use my build for Gaming /World of Warcraft & Surfing the internet...What will you be using your new build for?
Well I'm upgrading to a DirectX 11 or an HD 4870 soon after I get it. I will be playing Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warefare 2, Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and a bunch of other modern games as well as GRID 2 and The Orange Box.
!