APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: As soon as possible, within a day or two if possible
BUDGET RANGE: ~$1500-2000
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Programming, Games, internet, general purpose
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Processor, friend grabbing a D0 stepping i7 from Microcenter for me
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, any other site considered reputable
PARTS PREFERENCES: Nvidia
OVERCLOCKING: Most likely yes, but not immediately
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080?
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Basically I am a programmer by trade and my latest project is requiring work done from home. My home laptop isn't cutting it on the current project, so I figured this would be a good time to build a high performance machine for both work and play. Due to timing issues with the project, I need to order the system ASAP, but I haven't built a system since the days when the Pentium III was the new, cool thing. Usually I would prefer to spend weeks researching everything myself, but my time constraints make that impossible now, so I would like some general advice. I'm basically overwhelmed by all the choices at the moment.
I am used to using a dual monitor set-up at work, so I'm also looking to get 2 decent/good monitors w/o totally breaking the bank (I'd also like the 1920x1080 or so resolution if possible). I'm not necessarily super picky and most of my work will be looking directly at the monitors, so I don't think the TN panel stuff I've been reading about will be a problem. I've been looking at 2x Dell S2409W (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7345) because they seem to have good reviews for a good price. Any other suggestions would be welcome though. I wouldn't include the monitors in the budget though.
I'm especially confused about disk drive choice. I see the WD Caviar Blacks recommended quite a bit, are they the default go-to option? Should I consider 2 of them for RAID 0 performance?
Other sticky parts for me are things like recommended case (I'd like one that doesn't need additional fans installed by me, etc.) and motherboard. I'd like the mobo to have at least 6 memory slots. I'd hate to order parts and run into an issue of them not fitting in the case or missing a minor part I need but overlooked because of my lack of mass research time.
For the GPU, again, a bit of confusion. Is a GTX275 sufficient? Is it worth trying to get 2 for SLI?
As for overclocking, back in the day that seemed to be the realm of the pros exclusively, but it seems like it's easier now, so I'd like to eventually try my hand at it after the project I'm working on is over. That said, I'd like to purchase parts that don't prevent me from OCing in the future.
$843 for this build, plenty of fans in the case already and the PSU will support 2 GTX275s in the future but one should be enough for now. Depending on the size of the programs you are working with you may want to pick up a second kit of ram. Either way you are well under budget, thanks to having picked up the i7 already.
edit: if you need a mouse and keyboard those are more personal preference as are the speakers, some people can get by with a $30 set of speakers, i cant, so pick a set that you like the looks of or just pick up a nice headset instead.
$843 for this build, plenty of fans in the case already and the PSU will support 2 GTX275s in the future but one should be enough for now. Depending on the size of the programs you are working with you may want to pick up a second kit of ram. Either way you are well under budget, thanks to having picked up the i7 already.
edit: if you need a mouse and keyboard those are more personal preference as are the speakers, some people can get by with a $30 set of speakers, i cant, so pick a set that you like the looks of or just pick up a nice headset instead.
Message edited by hunter315 on 08-26-2009 at 05:06:03 AM
I saw your post about the building the core i7 desktop, I just build one about 2 weeks ago, you can find my post on this forum if it's not deleted. Anyway, here is the components, I want to sell it, let me know if you are interested. That way you get a new desktop fast, saving a lot of hassle of building it up. I am not a scam and it's real. The reason is I need a macbook pro now
8. Video card: MSI N275GTX TwinFrozr OC GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 - $220 (after rebate)(Read the review in tom's hardware, you will see why this high end card, super cool and quiet and powerful! any game in max more than smooth) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127429
14. some other accessories, including cable extensions, binders, and etc, worth about $15.
15. NO mouse: I will keep the mouse for laptop.
I have all the original package & boxes. The prices are all after the rebate. So do the math, add them all up, the vanilla total is: $1585. The shipping fee is about $100, so the total I paid is about $1685. And considering the labor I put in, and the beautiful cable management in the case, I think it is fair to ask for $1700. Cheap labor, right?
It is a very high end desktop for gaming or for whatever. It has the Window 7RC x64 installed. I can give you the install disk since you can't download it anymore after 20th Aug.
Ah, knew i was forgetting something, thanks tecmo, +1 on his heatsink choices, didnt even phase me.
Any reason for swapping the XFX for the eVGA?
Also do you know of somewhere to get a 1TB F3? I can only seem to find the 500GB one, yeah 2 of them would work but its easier and cheaper just to have a single disk.
I just bought one about 3 weeks ago... somewhat what your looking for... Some same components mentioned already above.
Not gonna bother with links. I'm sure your capable of finding them on Newegg...(I bought it there)
Intel CoreI7 920 D0 revision (Most are D0 now)
Asus P6T mobo
OCZ 6gb platinum @ 1600 (Wish i got 12gb)
WD 500gb HD 7200 RPM
MSI Geforce GTX 275 OC 893GB
Antel True 650W
Asus 23.6" 2ms 1080HD
Sonly 48X CDRW
Case was already owned... an old 3Dcool full tower case.
All including tax and 3 day shipping came to just under 1500
Didn't need keyboard or mouse or headset.. Already have those.
You said 1500-2000... If i had the extra 500 I woulda spend it on 12gb ramb (+100) Geforce 295 (+250) and the WD VR 300gig 10.000 RPM. My build is plenty big enough for me... just wish i had the 12gb... I made some maps that i cant compile for games I play.. Uses all 6gb+ so i'll be buying another 6 soon.
well me too couldn't find a 1TB edition (at least at newegg) but comparing 2 spinpoint f3s equal 104USD vs 94USD Caviar Black. also you would be able to run them in RAID 0 for even greater performance gain as if you're switching to the F3 you're most probably shooting for the highest performance gain (bearing in mind that i suggested them )
also don't forget the Tuniq TX-3 Thermal compound.
good luck though .
EDIT: forgot about the card, ok let's see eVGA offers lifetime warranty, excellent active forums(obviously learned from tom's hardware ) and very gooooooooooodddd customer service.
regards .
Message edited by psycho sykes on 08-26-2009 at 05:47:55 AM
Oh i didnt realize that eVGA offer the lifetime warranty too, good to know!
Only issue i have with RAID 0 is you double your risk for catastrophic data loss, its not an issue for some people but i keep work and school related stuff on my machines so i cant risk it, and while the price is close for 2 of the 500GB ones, i was really hoping you knew of somewhere that had 1TB F3s as they should cost significantly less than the caviar black as the majority of the drive would be the same.
Thanks for answering my questions though, always good to learn new things!
Oh i didnt realize that eVGA offer the lifetime warranty too, good to know!
Only issue i have with RAID 0 is you double your risk for catastrophic data loss, its not an issue for some people but i keep work and school related stuff on my machines so i cant risk it, and while the price is close for 2 of the 500GB ones, i was really hoping you knew of somewhere that had 1TB F3s as they should cost significantly less than the caviar black as the majority of the drive would be the same.
Thanks for answering my questions though, always good to learn new things!
Any time . that's the way it goes students sometimes beats their teachers (14yr youngster vs ??yr veteran) and that's what forums is all about (sharing), always happy to help . also some other things: 1st eVGA doesn't offer lifetime warranty for all parts but if i recall correctly look for A1 at the end of the model number beside that eVGA also provides 1. eVGA StepUp program and exceptional quality and performance as they have been nVIDIA dedicated company for years even in their mobos (except the i7s') 2nd. i'll look for the 1TB F3 at amazon.com, tigerdirect.com etc...
EDIT: about the RAID0 prob with that budget you can get a good (NOT overpriced branded) RAID controller along with a nice mid-range 160GB Data Backup Drive or just wait till i finish my research for a 1TB Version of the F3.
Regards (AGAIN! )
have a nice day .
Message edited by psycho sykes on 08-26-2009 at 06:23:44 AM
i managed to find this though it's a canadian site it'll most probably ship to USA if there's any differences in the exchange rates, tax, tariffs or shipping that i forgot just PM me and i'll be happy to help here's the link Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Retail
Regards (Again and again ).
EDIT: extremely sorry posted a wrong link and forgot the original site
but don't worry i'll keep searching.
have a nice day .
Message edited by psycho sykes on 08-26-2009 at 11:19:15 AM
Don't know if you purchased your parts yet, but I just did a little F3 1TB research, and I don't think anyone noted yet, but they are "scheduled" to ship by the end of August, so there are like 5 days left here, and no one has them for sale yet. Not sure if they will drop soon, but if you can't wait Hunter's suggestion should be fine.
I saw your post about the building the core i7 desktop, I just build one about 2 weeks ago, you can find my post on this forum if it's not deleted. Anyway, here is the components, I want to sell it, let me know if you are interested. That way you get a new desktop fast, saving a lot of hassle of building it up. I am not a scam and it's real. The reason is I need a macbook pro now
8. Video card: MSI N275GTX TwinFrozr OC GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 - $220 (after rebate)(Read the review in tom's hardware, you will see why this high end card, super cool and quiet and powerful! any game in max more than smooth)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127429
14. some other accessories, including cable extensions, binders, and etc, worth about $15.
15. NO mouse: I will keep the mouse for laptop.
I have all the original package & boxes. The prices are all after the rebate. So do the math, add them all up, the vanilla total is: $1585. The shipping fee is about $100, so the total I paid is about $1685. And considering the labor I put in, and the beautiful cable management in the case, I think it is fair to ask for $1700. Cheap labor, right?
It is a very high end desktop for gaming or for whatever. It has the Window 7RC x64 installed. I can give you the install disk since you can't download it anymore after 20th Aug.