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fulan   08-26-2009 at 06:23:00 AM

First build. Certainly will appreciate your advice.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: late October, after Windows 7 release

BUDGET RANGE: up to $3000, preferably less

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: 3d graphics, photoshop, video editing, internet

OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 7

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitors, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE FOR PARTS: please advise

PARTS PREFERENCES: please advise

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR: dual monitors. Will reuse old ones. Later may upgrade to max.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Please keep it as simple as possible, quiet, cool and upgradeable. Minimum 12 GB memory. Want top grade case, power supply, motherboard and processor; later, can upgrade other parts. Open to all suggestions. Thank you!


Message edited by fulan on 09-06-2009 at 02:45:39 AM
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Bronze Home Brew badge gkay09   08-26-2009 at 06:37:25 AM

For that budget, you can look into including Workstation graphic cards in your build...So first check if the applications that you use take advantage of those cards...
And if you are from US, then you can check out these sites...
www.newegg.com
www.amazon.com
www.ewiz.com

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megamanx00   08-26-2009 at 06:51:43 AM

There is no point in trying to put that together right now. By then the LGA 1136 CPUs should be out and that will change the landscape a bit along with DX11 cards. For that budget though you really should consider SLI or Crossfire. If you're gonna do CAD or something though then it would make sense to go with a workstation card and since those don't get refreshed as soon it may make sense for you to look at them now.

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fulan   08-26-2009 at 06:34:04 PM

gkay09 wrote :

For that budget, you can look into including Workstation graphic cards in your build...So first check if the applications that you use take advantage of those cards...
And if you are from US, then you can check out these sites...
www.newegg.com
www.amazon.com
www.ewiz.com


Thank you!
We'll look into this.

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fulan   08-26-2009 at 06:36:19 PM

megamanx00 wrote :

There is no point in trying to put that together right now. By then the LGA 1136 CPUs should be out and that will change the landscape a bit along with DX11 cards. For that budget though you really should consider SLI or Crossfire. If you're gonna do CAD or something though then it would make sense to go with a workstation card and since those don't get refreshed as soon it may make sense for you to look at them now.


Thank you!
But we don't want the very latest components; second or third latest will do just fine.

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fullmetall   08-26-2009 at 06:46:44 PM

Baddad, it just looks like you went out there and found some of the highest priced parts over quality.

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baddad   08-26-2009 at 08:12:24 PM

Which parts lack quality and show how they don't.

------------------------------ ASUS Striker II Extreme , C2D Q9450 OC 3.4, 8 Gig Memory, EVGA 8800GTX Triple SLI, Thermaltake 1000W PSU, Thermaltake Armor + Case, Acer 24" LCD, Water Cooled, 12 Foot DVI Cable, Vista 64 Bit SP2
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Silver Home Brew badge hunter315   08-26-2009 at 08:21:00 PM

$145 for a wireless mouse/keyboard set? I really doubt there is that much variation between mice and keyboards especially when not used for gaming.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130475
Almost the same performance for less with a lifetime warranty, however you shoudnt even be looking at gaming cards. Consider the FireGL and Quadro cards.

He isnt doing fluid dynamics with multiple tesla cards, a standard P6T would work just as well and save 200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131359

A HAF 932 saves 60 while giving better airflow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119160

The 850HX is a great power supply and saves you 162 while being modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=850HX

Just because they list a budget doesnt mean you have to use all of it.

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baddad   08-26-2009 at 09:59:04 PM

1)"$145 for a wireless mouse/keyboard set? I really doubt there is that much variation between mice and keyboards especially when not used for gaming."

 

Do you have one, have you ever used one? I do and I have, and they've been woth the price.

 

2)" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130475
Almost the same performance for less with a lifetime warranty, however you shoudnt even be looking at gaming cards. Consider the FireGL and Quadro cards. "

 

I guess it's a matter of preference, although the 285 is a better for gaming the FireGl or Quadro are much higher priced cards.

 

3) "He isnt doing fluid dynamics with multiple tesla cards, a standard P6T would work just as well and save 200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131359"

 

True the P6T is cheaper but much less expandable, and I think that's what he's looking for.

 

4)"A HAF 932 saves 60 while giving better airflow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119160"

 

I have this case it has more room and more fans and better air flow then the 932 does.

 

5)"The 850HX is a great power supply and saves you 162 while being modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=850HX"

 

Again point 3.

 

None of your points proves low quality.

 

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Message edited by baddad on 08-27-2009 at 05:20:50 AM
------------------------------ ASUS Striker II Extreme , C2D Q9450 OC 3.4, 8 Gig Memory, EVGA 8800GTX Triple SLI, Thermaltake 1000W PSU, Thermaltake Armor + Case, Acer 24" LCD, Water Cooled, 12 Foot DVI Cable, Vista 64 Bit SP2
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fullmetall   08-26-2009 at 10:17:21 PM

The 1tb Seagate drive. It probably wasnt a bricking drive when you got it but, theres been many firm ware problems with the barracuda's and .11's. Now why buy 5 of those?


For keyboard or mouse, you can buy a Logitech or a Eclipse set that probably looks the same.

Don't see why you picked a 1200w with a single GTX 285...doesn't seem reasonable at all.

He could go for a motherboard that is alot cheaper than that.

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paperfox   08-26-2009 at 11:44:46 PM

Photoshop and video editing screams multi core and the i7 seems right for you.
I also agree that the Asus p6t is a good motherboard and that the corsair 850 fine.
I haven’t noticed any bad reviews regarding firmware on the 7200.12 drives so I think they seem safe, but if not, then the caviar blacks are a good choice. Try having one for the OS and applications and using another for storage.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148433
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284
since you are using this computer for 3d modeling id use a workstation graphics card, sure they are more expensive but they are designed to do 3d modeling while the 4870’s/gtx275’s are made for gaming. Here is a review of some workstation cards with benches, hopefully this will help you find a card that is performs as you wish and is priced at something you can afford.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/quad [...] 31555.html
for ram try a good DDR3 1333 or 1600mhz with a CAS Latency of 6 or 7. Though CAS 8 and 9 can be found for cheaper.
And as for cases… if you plan on having lots of hard drives Id probably get a full tower case to accommodate them. But for me its mostly about looks.

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paperfox   08-27-2009 at 12:03:38 AM

forgot about a heatsink, the XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V is a good one that ive had my eyes on.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233029
if not then cheack out frosty tech's top 5.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm
hope this helps! ;)

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croc   08-27-2009 at 07:28:31 AM

baddad wrote :

1)"$145 for a wireless mouse/keyboard set? I really doubt there is that much variation between mice and keyboards especially when not used for gaming."

Do you have one, have you ever used one? I do and I have, and they've been woth the price.

[i]For a workstation, only wired will do. I cannot be bothered fooling around with battery chargers, or even batteries of any sort. Plus, most wireless mice either lag, or lack the proper definition needed for an application like photoshop...
[/i]
2)" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130475
Almost the same performance for less with a lifetime warranty, however you shoudnt even be looking at gaming cards. Consider the FireGL and Quadro cards. "

I guess it's a matter of preference, although the 285 is a better for gaming the FireGl or Quadro are much higher priced cards.

Agreed, the quadro cards for this user.

3) "He isnt doing fluid dynamics with multiple tesla cards, a standard P6T would work just as well and save 200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131359"

True the P6T is cheaper but much less expandable, and I think that's what he's looking for.

Let the OP make up his mind.

4)"A HAF 932 saves 60 while giving better airflow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119160"

I have this case it has more room and more fans and better air flow then the 932 does.

A silverstone case will be quieter and cooler than either one of those cases... Or any one of a number of Lian Li's, but lately they seem to be more into 'bling'.

5)"The 850HX is a great power supply and saves you 162 while being modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=850HX"

Again point 3.

[b]Both of you are way off of the mark here, a Seasonic M12 700 will more than suffice, is a better PSU over all than either of the PSU's you two are bickering over.
[/b]
None of your points proves low quality.





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baddad   08-27-2009 at 06:04:53 PM

baddad wrote :

 

1)"$145 for a wireless mouse/keyboard set? I really doubt there is that much variation between mice and keyboards especially when not used for gaming."

 

Do you have one, have you ever used one? I do and I have, and they've been woth the price.

 

For a workstation, only wired will do. I cannot be bothered fooling around with battery chargers, or even batteries of any sort. Plus, most wireless mice either lag, or lack the proper definition needed for an application like photoshop...

 

I guess that's up to him to decide.

 

2)" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130475
Almost the same performance for less with a lifetime warranty, however you shoudnt even be looking at gaming cards. Consider the FireGL and Quadro cards. "

 

I guess it's a matter of preference, although the 285 is a better for gaming the FireGl or Quadro are much higher priced cards.

 

Agreed, the quadro cards for this user.

 

Again thats for him to decide, we don't even know for sure what he's going to be doing.

 

3) "He isnt doing fluid dynamics with multiple tesla cards, a standard P6T would work just as well and save 200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131359"

 

True the P6T is cheaper but much less expandable, and I think that's what he's looking for.

 

Let the OP make up his mind.

 

I agree!

 

4)"A HAF 932 saves 60 while giving better airflow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119160"

 

I have this case it has more room and more fans and better air flow then the 932 does.

 

A silverstone case will be quieter and cooler than either one of those cases... Or any one of a number of Lian Li's, but lately they seem to be more into 'bling'.

 

How do you know?

5)"The 850HX is a great power supply and saves you 162 while being modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=850HX"

 

Again point 3.

 

Both of you are way off of the mark here, a Seasonic M12 700 will more than suffice, is a better PSU over all than either of the PSU's you two are bickering over.

 

The Thermaltake Toughpower power supplies are good power supplies I've never had one fail and the only reason I suggested the parts I did was to give him a starting point.

 

None of your points proves low quality.

   


Message edited by baddad on 08-27-2009 at 06:10:52 PM
------------------------------ ASUS Striker II Extreme , C2D Q9450 OC 3.4, 8 Gig Memory, EVGA 8800GTX Triple SLI, Thermaltake 1000W PSU, Thermaltake Armor + Case, Acer 24" LCD, Water Cooled, 12 Foot DVI Cable, Vista 64 Bit SP2
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fulan   08-28-2009 at 11:29:46 PM

Wow! Thanks for all the responses. We're studying them now.

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