So who is picking one of these bad boys up next week? What are you upgrading from and are you expecting a huge difference with the system you currently have. I'm going from a 4870 1gb I bought a year ago and looking for a nice boost in performance. Just picked up Red Faction Guerilla for PC and going to max out all settings 1920 x 1200. Next game will be Borderlands, then Modern Warfare 2, Dirt 2. 2010 will be a great year for pc gaming for sure!
I'm going to sell my 4870 and xfire 4770's. With a bit of luck that will pay for one 5870, or a 5850.
As much as I'd love 6 screens, I'm going to keep it as realistic as possible and get 3. Unfortunately I need to do it on two pc's because I spend a lot of time at my friends house and I have a pc there.
I suppose the cool thing is, if I really want to see 6 screens in action then I can just combine them all.
Oh, I'll buy the card first, then I'll take my single 22" screen up to my friends place. We have 3 identical lcd's so I dont see any issues with eyefinity there.
I am waiting to see what the official prices are because as good as the 5870 sounds, $400 is kind of high for my blood aka pocket.
This is coming from a $130 3870 buyer. If the price is $350, I might sell some parts I have laying around to get it, but not $400.
I bought a $1200ish i7 920 system last month, but have been running an 8600GT as a placeholder until the 58xx's come out. I might buy the 5870 if its 350ish, otherwise I'll go with the 5850. Lots of gaming to catch up on- Bioshock, Mass Effect, Crysis, Modern Warfare...
In all honesty, I'll likely put one in my cousin's PC for his birthday. It has an E6750 @ 3.6 Ghz, so not much bottleneck. It should be a decent upgrade from 2 8800 GTS 512s. I may buy 2 for my self, after all selling my 3 4890s should net me $600 right there (Sapphire toxic editions) and I have a good $250 in the watercooling blocks, so not much of a price to pay.
Over all, I think my cousin should see a major increase in performance with a 5870 over his 8800 GTS 512s, which won't even run Crysis @ 1920x1200 on medium with no AA.
I'm going to get 2 5870x2s and Quadfire them to replace my trifire 4870x2+4870 setup now. this will be my last upgrade on this pc. Pushing Dell 30" 3008wfp, and 2 26" Viewsonic VP2650wbs, plus a 23" acer (only for remote desktop and watching my dvr) I can't wait to use all the 3 main monitors for gaming.
In the spring, I plan on building a new pc, put in the other room only for gaming, hopefully using a nice bezeless 6 monitor setup. By then I'll be able to see what Nvidia brings also.
So, they're going to be released next week. Does that mean they will be available next week ? Or 3 weeks after that to the public ? And as far as pricing goes, we all know that the first ones out will be $50 over MSRP because the on line etailers are going to get what they can from the hard core gotta have it now people. ( $450 ? ) So for me, if I decide to buy one, first I'll wait for the multitude of bench marks that will be coming out and then I'll wait for the release of the ones that have after market cooling on them and then I might wait and see if somebody slaps 2gig of memory on them and than make a decision. So this means around the "Black Friday" or Christmas time line.
I will probably pick up a 5870 2GB for my new build. Since I really only want to play GTA4 I was hoping they would have available a 5850 2GB on release day. IF they would release that for $350 that would be my sweet spot.
If I go for one I will wait for a few months (Aus price gouging on new hardware is beyond sickening) and then sell my GTX275 for more than I bought it. That should get me one of these, or close to it.
| jennyh wrote : I'm going to sell my 4870 and xfire 4770's. With a bit of luck that will pay for one 5870, or a 5850.
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If you're looking for a buyer for those spare GPUs, I'm here.
Well first off im going to wait and see what they can actually do. then most probably i wont get one anyway as my system isnt struggling with anything ....Yet.
When my W7 gets here that might be differant but for now im running a watching brief.
Mactronix
Im not planning to upgrade yet. Ill let my gtx260 sli hold off till 2011. No games are really pushing current high end cards hard enough.
AMD hasn't locked down prices yet as of a couple of days ago. It depends on performance and yields as there are still talks of $350 or $400 for the 5870 according to some "people that know".
Looking forward to switching out the Ol' 8800gtx for a 5870, should go nicely with the 3.6ghz Q6600 and 8gb ram.
Then have to look for 2 more monitors to go with my 22"
I don't think I will upgrade right away. I usually like to wait a while for some price drops to take effect or at least until Nvidia comes out with their new part for competition. The last few cards I've purchased have been ATI, but I have owned Nvidia as well. Christmas and my birthday both are right around the corner :-).
The reason the 5870 makes sense is cause you can play ANY game on it at the highest settings. There is no reason NOT to get it except price.
So no reason except the main reason then
Im waiting to see whats really what before i decide but it will be one of the lower speced cards i get as although it could be called expense as well the fact that my PSU wont run a 5870 also needs considering
Mactronix
I may pick one up, but only if it's at least 33% faster than my 4890 and I'm not gonna pay €400 for it.
If they'll charge less than €300 for it (reasonable considering the exchange rate) I'll order one right after I've read through the benchmarks.
I'll probably wait till the 5850 gets below $200. Of course that won't be till inventory of 4800 series cards is cleared out a bit.
A few things will have to happen for me to upgrade.
1. My games will need to get more demanding, possibly caused by...
2. I go to a higher resolution than 1680x1050.
3. Prices must drop into the "reasonable" range; I paid about $160 for my HD4850 at the beginning of the year. I think I paid around that for a 7600GT when it was new, so my psychological barrier is probably $180-$200.
It will help if the power consumption is low; will there be a 5670?
Anyone remember playing games at 320*200?? I remember playing Nascar 2 at first at 640*480 and thought it was AMAZING!!
If ATI really wants to stick it to Nvidia, they should go 5850 at $200-$250 and 5870 at $300-$350. Imagine the scramble on Nvidia side.
I'll wait a bit, would be nice to read 3rd party reviews first, maybe by that time we'll know something more about GT300. I'm also interested by X2, but if 5870 is indeed faster than GTX295, non-dual version would fit me just fine too
I probably will pick one up, or wait for the 5870x2, I have a GTX295 right now, 3 22" LCDs, going to buy 3 more 24" LCDs, provided the benchmarks of the new cards aren't completely disappointing, or Nvidia miraculously comes out with something.
Anyone heard of "mainstream" models? Like the 5670; 5770???
Those would be sweet....
I'm stuck with my GeForce 8600 GT and I wanted to wait till the 5000 series, but they seem outta my budget. I'm considering a 4870, but I don't want it to be obsolete by january....
Juniper should be the 5670, probably about as powerful as a 4870 or slightly higher. It won't be priced the same as the 4670 was ofc, but i bet it will be extremely cheap before too long.
The 5670 looks like it will be a smart choice for those with crossfire mobos. I'm in two minds whether or not to go dual 5670's for it or just go for the 5870/5850 to start with.
I want something that sips power. I don't think it should take 600W-800W (or more!) just to play games.
I will be waiting until I see some hard proof of performance, and if the 5870 is in the $300-350 range I will be picking atleast one up.
Good news to budget buyers: 5770 and 5750 are due in October...
*crosses fingers for 4890-class performance....*
| jtt283 wrote : I want something that sips power. I don't think it should take 600W-800W (or more!) just to play games. |
I have an corsair 850tx just for gaming. I wouldn't have a need for it otherwise.
| sanchz wrote : Good news to budget buyers: 5770 and 5750 are due in October...
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If that is the case then maybe just maybe as hard as it will be to not jump on the buy it when its first comes out band wagon, it might be a good Idea to wait until they are out, because either way it may be a win for us, price drops on the 5870's or the 5700's CF performance might be unreal against the 4800's.
| sanchz wrote : Good news to budget buyers: 5770 and 5750 are due in October...
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Not that i dont beleive you but do you have any links or more info ?
Mactronix
Well I got to say this is the first i really hear about this cards! I heard some things here and there but nothing as big as they are next week! but really i think ill wait with getting one of them because i just got an i7 that ran be around $700.00 with mobo can and CPU fan and now paying $400.00+- for a GPU when i have a 280 sounds like im throwing out my momey ! but i didnt hear a lot about the card so sould i wait like 4 months and then get the card or is it that much better then the 280 ?
btw is it DX11 ?
| sanchz wrote : Good news to budget buyers: 5770 and 5750 are due in October...
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Ahhhh yes -we already know that these are the 4870 replacements. They have the same specs as the 4800 series cards with a few some tweaking and optimization. Word is they are faster (10-20%) than the 4800 series cards and require much much less power.
I am not buying one until the first price drop which is fine because that is when I will likely have money to buy one for my next build.
im gonna up phenom 9850 QC and 3870x2 to a phenom 2 940 and 5870 vapor-x silent edition, when starcraft2 comes to pwn u all!!!
Now that 5770 looks much more like what im going to be interested in, reported 1.6 times a 4770 performance and with DX11 and im guessing from reported system specs that its only going to need 1 power cable
Mactronix
So with these juniper cards then is there no issue with the 128bit interface and using 1gb of memory ? Will it not cause a restriction of some sorts ?
Mactronix
Only time will tell with this new cards but they don't sound restricted to me. 1 of them is just under a 4870 in performance if what they say is true, and I don't consider my 4870's restricted, LOL.
What strikes me as odd is that they are using a naming scheme which has no correlation to the naming scheme used with the 4870 as the 4770 was a special part which had no real place within the 4xxx series.
Also as mactronix points out it could cause a "bottleneck" if i dare say it.
From my meagre understanding of these things they would need 8 chips with a 16bit bus to match the 128bit memory interface. The memory chips themselves would also need to unable to send or receive more than 16bits in one go.
Seeing as that level of the hardware I have no idea the specs your guess is as good as mine.
Anyone care to hypothesise how that will work?
I do not know either, but if the first leaks are true, it seems like it is just going to work.
Not sure if upgrading from a factory OC Asus TOP 4890 to a 5870 would be worthwhile.
I see myself grabbing a 5870x2 later this year or early next year depending on price...
| strangestranger wrote : What strikes me as odd is that they are using a naming scheme which has no correlation to the naming scheme used with the 4870 as the 4770 was a special part which had no real place within the 4xxx series. |
I see your point, but I think I know what ATI is thinking.
5800 series = high end
5700 series = mid range
5600 series = low-mid range
5500/5400/5300 series ext.
Well, the 128 bit memory in the 4770 allowed it to almost match a 4850.
I think the 128 bit bus IS the desired bottleneck (and cost-reducing feature) to bring the 5000 series to the "performance" or mid range market.
If the 5770 it performs as the 4870, I'll get it for sure.
I'd love to get a fully fledged 5870, but they'll be way too expensive for a while...
Just can't wait to see what NVida brings to the table.
Well i get why they are doing it (cost)and i get that the GDDR5 allows them to run a much simpler PCB with half the pins,(again cost). I have reviewed what info i have on GDDR5 and cant make the numbers the reviews talk about add up.
As you say the 4770 got close to the 4850 but some games just didnt suit it nearly as well as a 4850. Now i dont know but im willing to bet that these would be games with larger textures etc.
Im also worried that the nearly effect will be cumalitive, GDDR5 as far as i know dosent exactly double the rate, its close but not quite. Please correct me if im wrong and also please provide a link to the correct info if possable. But if it is cumalative then does that mean that a 1GB card over a 128 bit bus will be that bit slower again than a 1GB card over a 256 bit bus ?
I realise that there is no reason for the card to not work and im quite sure it will work and work well. Im just interested in finding out.
Mactronix
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