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August 28, 2009 3:12:29 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 2-3 days BUDGET RANGE: $750-$799.99 INCLUDING shipping

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Programming, Photoshop, Movies, Internet

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com only. I am using their credit card for this purchase.

PARTS PREFERENCES: n/a don't really care, looking for value/performance/in budget

OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Capable Mobo, single card for right now

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680 x 1050 or higher

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Yep I need everything and don't have a ton of money. My alternative right now is getting a laptop for the same price with the ATI 4650 in it. (yikes in a bad way)

Here are some things I'd like but that are not required:
1. Quiet
2. Few or No LED lights
3. GTX275 or ATI4890 (I know I'm reaching here)

LGA 775 or AM3 ?

Thanks for the help, any questions please let me know.

edit:
Would like 4+GB of ram. Not sure on DDR2 or 3 yet because it'll all have to fit into the budget.

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August 28, 2009 3:23:16 PM
August 28, 2009 3:29:02 PM

This comes to about $840 with MIR

Obviously its a little higher than your budget, but you can fix this by dropping down to a smaller video card. It depends on your level of gaming. The HD4850 would be a good second choice and would save you about 50 bucks, bringing you within your budget.

However, I did not look for combo deals, and free shipping deals, just benchmark products that would suit you well, im am confident that with a little time you could get all these products at newegg within your budget through combo deals and whatnot.

Edit: If you dropping down to a HD4850, you could also go with a lower wattage PSU, like the Antec EA500, saving you some more money there.
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August 28, 2009 3:29:33 PM

@Transmaniacon - Thanks for the quick response.

2 problems that I see offhand,

1. the mobo doesn't allow for future xfire/sli - or is there not one that will fit the budget?
2. no keyboard/mouse/disk drive are included

-edit--

As for gaming needs, I don't need everything on SUPER high, but medium-high would be nice, also at full resolution.
August 28, 2009 3:32:29 PM

Yea I just put down the core components, no paripheals, Getting an Xfire board would stretch your budget a little bit, because not only would the mobo cost more, but you would need to have an adequate PSU. Xfiring 2 HD4850 would be fine with the PSU I linked above, the 650TX, however if you were to get an HD4870 now, you would need to step up the PSU if you want to xfire.

August 28, 2009 3:36:40 PM

Here is what I would suggest:

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keep the current PSU I linked, and then when you want to, pick up a second HD4850 and crossfire them.

Edit: However now you can use DDR2 instead,

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So doing this saves about $40, and gives you some upgrade options down the road with xfire.
August 28, 2009 3:38:39 PM

Hmmm... the 750TX is only $20 more, and I could hold off on OC'ing for a while and save $45 on the CPU cooler.... that leaves $25 for the mobo?

Tough choices ><

edit--

oo nice mobo for slightly more $$ and with the other savings we found I think that could really work well.
August 28, 2009 3:41:37 PM

Yea the stock CPU Cooler will give you a decent overclock, probably to around 3.2 Ghz, which would be plenty before the GPU becomes a bottleneck in games.

That saves another $40 and lets you squeeze in all the peripheals under budget.
August 28, 2009 3:46:42 PM

Basically looks good.
Here's the few changes I made:
1. Added keyboard/mouse and DVD writer
2. Changed case to Centurion 5 for slight savings
3. Upp'd to 750tx psu
4. Took off the 3rd party cooler

Total before shipping is $870 which is a bit over, but not terrible.

Thinking that in the future I can get the 2nd 4850, or just get 2 of whatever is cheap at the time (looking at 6-8 months or even a year later) Can also get the third party cooler at that time.
August 28, 2009 3:51:30 PM

Yea that sounds good, in that much time there will likely be a new generation or two of video cards, but at the resolution you want, the HD4850 will perform very well. Should make for a nice build.
August 28, 2009 3:55:30 PM

Ok one last thing.
How about this CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and this monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU is only a dual, but has good clock speeds.
Monitor is smaller size and slightly less res, but 1680x1050 isn't too bad.

Plus brings price down to 801 before shipping which looks better vs my budget.

Think it would be a terrible performance hit in x3 vs x2 cpu?
Also is the ASUS monitor better enough to warrant the extra $50?
August 28, 2009 4:15:05 PM

You would not notice the difference in games, because at this point its still clock speed > # of cores (with a couple exceptions)

The monitor would be fine, I tried to find a cheaper monitor at that resolution, but didn't see one, so I must have missed that one you linked, but those are two fine changes, and helps with the budget =)
August 28, 2009 4:57:07 PM

That second mobo Transmaniacon listed is DDR2. For the best upgade path you want DDR3. Let me see what I can come up with. I'll include combos.

EDI* Doh, you mentioned that Trans. Sorry. Still gonna see what I can come up with.
August 28, 2009 5:32:02 PM

Ok, here you go.

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER ELITE 335 RC-335-KKN1-GP Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Green WD6400AACS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (bare drive) - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Acer X193W+BD Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2000:1 (ACM) - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Combo:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail
SAPPHIRE 100258-1GHDMI Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Combo:
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR16004GK - Retail
AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Total shipped $795.80. Use this promo code to save another $10. EMCLWNW27

That being said, if you're happy with a 19" monitor at 1680X1050, you will have absolutely no need for another 4850. A single card will get you medium to high or better. In which case you can save money by going with a single PCIe mobo, and a less expensive PSU will meet your power requirements.
August 28, 2009 7:22:20 PM

Doh, didn't mean to list the green one. Wasn't paying attention. Thanks shortstuff.
August 28, 2009 7:24:19 PM

The CPU + RAM combo isn't available any more either. :( 
August 29, 2009 4:42:50 AM

Thanks for all the additional help you guys!

How do you think the 4850 would hold up if I went with a second monitor in the future? That was one of my thoughts, either get a second monitor or just a bigger one (24-28")
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