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Core i7 X58 or a Core i7 P55?

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November 20, 2009 4:51:25 AM

For future reference and longer lasting value, what is worth investing in for a better system.... are there any new core i7 X58 chips coming out soon?

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November 20, 2009 7:46:57 AM

1366 is newe platform . but its price is more expensive . if u have enough money . invest ur money on x58 motherboard . and get a i7 920 (;
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November 20, 2009 8:21:28 AM

1366 is an older platform. There are going to be some new 1366 chips in the future, but all that have been announced are on the higher end (probably >$500). 1156 doesn't have any new chips announced, but there will probably be some good 32nm chips on 1156 that are cheaper than the ones on 1366.
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November 20, 2009 12:02:04 PM

All things considered, i7 and an X58 chipset would be better for the long term, IMO, because of the triple channel memory, 2 - 16x PCIe lanes for X-Fire/SLI, and the upcoming 6 core Skt 1366 procs due out next year.
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November 20, 2009 1:53:16 PM

i7 920 @ Mircocenter is only $199+tax
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December 2, 2009 1:26:14 AM

masterasia said:
i7 920 @ Mircocenter is only $199+tax

really? Its $260-300 in most places.
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December 2, 2009 1:54:37 AM

Really. And the i5 750 is only $149.99 as well! These are loss leaders to get you into their store. It must be working 'cause these sale prices have been on for a while now.

1366/x58 systems are older but represent Intel's higher end for the future.
1156/p55 are the newer but "mainstream" choice.
As far as new technology offerings:
If you want 6 core+ systems, go 1366. If you want cpu+gpu on 1 socket, go 1156.
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December 2, 2009 2:00:56 AM

Yeah, that sale works, or at least I was nice to them and made it work. I got the i5 for $150 but then overpaid on my 650HX (just so UPS wouldn't get a chance to chuck it on the ground and break it like they will probably do to my HDDs).
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December 9, 2009 12:23:39 AM

Newf said:
Really. And the i5 750 is only $149.99 as well! These are loss leaders to get you into their store. It must be working 'cause these sale prices have been on for a while now.

1366/x58 systems are older but represent Intel's higher end for the future.
1156/p55 are the newer but "mainstream" choice.
As far as new technology offerings:
If you want 6 core+ systems, go 1366. If you want cpu+gpu on 1 socket, go 1156.


Where I'm from the core i5 750 is $220!!!! Id rather get an LGA1336 i7 920 anyway for 50more...
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December 9, 2009 12:38:09 AM

The LGA1156 represents a much better deal. Dual x16/x16 PCIe lanes won't be required for a long time, tri-channel memory won't be used until some really fast SSDs are thrown into the equation, i9 will cost well over a $1000 and won't be worth it until another few generations of 6-core processors come out, and buying any motherboard today or in the foreseeable future will be obsolete thanks to PCIe 3.0, USB 3.0, ESATA 2.0, SATA III, standardized digital audio connections coming out at the end of the year (Q4 2010) or next year (2011).

Get a decent P55, I recommend the Biostar T5 XE CFX-SLI board which is $120 at Fry's and a i5 750. If you want all the tangible performance of an i7 920 then get an Xeon X3440 which overclocks as well and has hyperthreading for only $20 more than an i5 750. Also you wont have to waste money on tri-channel DDR3.
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December 9, 2009 5:17:42 PM

AMW1011 said:

Get a decent P55, I recommend the Biostar T5 XE CFX-SLI board which is $120 at Fry's and a i5 750.


I would never recommend Biostar. Their specs on paper might look good, but the quality is crap. Biostar and ECS are what I've replaced the most when I fix my clients' computers. Most ebay and cheap whitebox builder use these boards to save money for the less knowledgeable PC consumer.
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December 9, 2009 5:19:28 PM

I always go with Gigabyte (or Asus in the past). Might cost a little more, but they have all been solid boards.
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December 9, 2009 6:29:08 PM

masterasia said:
I would never recommend Biostar. Their specs on paper might look good, but the quality is crap. Biostar and ECS are what I've replaced the most when I fix my clients' computers. Most ebay and cheap whitebox builder use these boards to save money for the less knowledgeable PC consumer.


Then why do the new Biostar boards get such great ratings, overclock well, and use the same higher end capacitors as budget ASUS and Gigabyte? I don't mean to say Biostar has always been good, they haven't, but their new stuff is quite nice. Also it comes with a LOTES socket and not a Foxconn socket like MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte.

Note my favorite board makers are DFI and Gigabyte.
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December 10, 2009 1:53:36 AM

AMW1011 said:
Then why do the new Biostar boards get such great ratings, overclock well, and use the same higher end capacitors as budget ASUS and Gigabyte? I don't mean to say Biostar has always been good, they haven't, but their new stuff is quite nice. Also it comes with a LOTES socket and not a Foxconn socket like MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte.

Note my favorite board makers are DFI and Gigabyte.



It's one's perception of the brand. Back then Biostar and ECS were the worst of the worst.
I just installed an ECS Black series board the other day, they still suck donkey ballz. Layout and bios were
terrible. Haven't installed a Biostar board in over 3 years. Last time I did, the client came back with it saying
it was dead. Popped in one of my used ASUS board I had laying around and haven't heard of any
problems since then.

It's just like Toyota and Ford. Toyota has been known from the beginning to make quality cars.
I know someone who still drives an '87 Camry and it still runs great. Ford on the other hand made some
crappy cars from the get go and lost it's reputation a lot time ago. It's hard for people to trust them now.

Now they're putting Ford parts into Mazda cars and many people are questioning that. Some people think
Ford parts in a Mazda car will make it unreliable. We'll just have to wait and see.
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December 10, 2009 1:09:28 PM

And perceptions of quality are often wrong. Going with your Ford example, we have a '97 Ford with 220,000+ miles and no major problems. Yet every rental Toyota/Honda we have had has been a piece of ****. Now of course you can say the rentals were abused, but I think that points to the real cause. If you take good care of your car, in most cases it will take good care of you. The media loves to portray unreliable "brands", but maybe it should talk more about unreliable driving styles, maintenance, etc. So, I am not saying either of those brands of MB are 'good' or 'bad', but rather to be wary of labeling them as either without a good bit of evidence to back it up.

Edit: and if going for age, also have an '88 Pontiac still going strong.
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December 12, 2009 1:12:00 AM

EXT64 said:
And perceptions of quality are often wrong. Going with your Ford example, we have a '97 Ford with 220,000+ miles and no major problems. Yet every rental Toyota/Honda we have had has been a piece of ****. Now of course you can say the rentals were abused, but I think that points to the real cause. If you take good care of your car, in most cases it will take good care of you. The media loves to portray unreliable "brands", but maybe it should talk more about unreliable driving styles, maintenance, etc. So, I am not saying either of those brands of MB are 'good' or 'bad', but rather to be wary of labeling them as either without a good bit of evidence to back it up.

Edit: and if going for age, also have an '88 Pontiac still going strong.

Man your point is really moot to boot as you clearly answered your question and lost all avlidity of your post and reply when you compared a RENTAL to a PRIVATE vehicle. 100% of the ppl here would say that comparison is poor and not valid. Apples to oranges.
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December 12, 2009 1:16:21 AM

liquidsnake718 said:
Man your point is really moot to boot as you clearly answered your question and lost all avlidity of your post and reply when you compared a RENTAL to a PRIVATE vehicle. 100% of the ppl here would say that comparison is poor and not valid. Apples to oranges.


EXT64 said:
And perceptions of quality are often wrong. Going with your Ford example, we have a '97 Ford with 220,000+ miles and no major problems. Yet every rental Toyota/Honda we have had has been a piece of ****. Now of course you can say the rentals were abused, but I think that points to the real cause. If you take good care of your car, in most cases it will take good care of you. The media loves to portray unreliable "brands", but maybe it should talk more about unreliable driving styles, maintenance, etc. So, I am not saying either of those brands of MB are 'good' or 'bad', but rather to be wary of labeling them as either without a good bit of evidence to back it up.

Edit: and if going for age, also have an '88 Pontiac still going strong.

Do you want to compare your desktop pc and brand to a competely different one that is being used in your neighborhood net cafe by ppl who dont care?
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December 12, 2009 2:32:01 AM

And tell me, what is the difference. The rental is abused and mine is not, that is the point. My whole point was that how you care for the car matters more than the media's "quality" car. Next time read the post before posting.
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December 12, 2009 2:33:56 AM

EXT64 said:
And tell me, what is the difference. The rental is abused and mine is not, that is the point. My whole point was that how you care for the car matters more than the media's "quality" car. Next time read the post before posting.


Haha, win.
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December 12, 2009 2:35:06 AM

Oh, and just to clarify, the problems with the rentals weren't even really of abuse, they were of build quality. One seemed to be missing a door stiffiner and the other had engine trouble.
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December 20, 2009 1:03:34 AM

EXT64 said:
Oh, and just to clarify, the problems with the rentals weren't even really of abuse, they were of build quality. One seemed to be missing a door stiffiner and the other had engine trouble.

Well referring to quality, GAMERS, and avid builders dont seem to buy Intel motherboards as much as lets say XFX, ASUS or MSI mb's but Intel has great quality and a solid company, decent support to back it up as well as the name to go with the processors. So do you consider their mb's poor quality or bad madia/marketing on their part?
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December 20, 2009 1:12:23 AM

liquidsnake718 said:
Well referring to quality, GAMERS, and avid builders dont seem to buy Intel motherboards as much as lets say XFX, ASUS or MSI mb's but Intel has great quality and a solid company, decent support to back it up as well as the name to go with the processors. So do you consider their mb's poor quality or bad madia/marketing on their part?


My problem is that their only P55 board with both SLI and CFX costs over $200 which is too much to me for a P55.
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December 20, 2009 1:21:22 AM

Both platforms are the current most up to date setups that Intel offers. Both are future-proofed and will be upgradeable. Both have new CPUs coming out for them in the future, and a new platform will not be here anytime soon, likely until late 2012 when Intel comes out with their 22nm CPUs, and even then they may still use the same sockets.

But they're for different markets. 1156 is the cheaper mainstream variant, 1366 is the more expensive performance variant.

liquidsnake718 said:
Well referring to quality, GAMERS, and avid builders dont seem to buy Intel motherboards as much as lets say XFX, ASUS or MSI mb's but Intel has great quality and a solid company, decent support to back it up as well as the name to go with the processors. So do you consider their mb's poor quality or bad madia/marketing on their part?


Poor quality. They should stick to CPUs, and on that topic, NVIDIA should stick to GPUs and they should work together against AMD. :D 

The only motherboards I would recommend are Gigabyte for the average user/light gamer and EVGA for anyone that's gonna run SLI. If you're gonna crossfire (why?) then I'd still say Gigabyte as they lean towards it more than SLI. For quad fire I hate to say it but the only logical choice is ASUS (whom I hate).
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December 20, 2009 2:12:23 AM

raybob95 said:

Poor quality. They should stick to CPUs, and on that topic, NVIDIA should stick to GPUs and they should work together against AMD. :D 

The only motherboards I would recommend are Gigabyte for the average user/light gamer and EVGA for anyone that's gonna run SLI. If you're gonna crossfire (why?) then I'd still say Gigabyte as they lean towards it more than SLI. For quad fire I hate to say it but the only logical choice is ASUS (whom I hate).


This is absolutely false, Intel makes the best motherboards in the business because they design 90%+ of every motherboard with an Intel socket, except for nVidia boards. The Intel branded boards tend to be the absolute best quality but lack many of the features of the others such as Gigabyte's, Asus', and MSI's versions. However all these companies are just modifying the basic Intel motherboard.
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December 20, 2009 12:40:00 PM

masterasia said:
i7 920 @ Mircocenter is only $199+tax


The only Intel CPU I see on Microcenter is the i7 975 for $999. Link?
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December 20, 2009 2:39:40 PM

raybob95 said:
The only Intel CPU I see on Microcenter is the i7 975 for $999. Link?


It's in store only. Look in their on-line Catalog for the link.
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December 30, 2009 1:42:06 AM

i7 920 for 199? with a rebate??
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December 30, 2009 2:08:20 AM

AMW1011 said:
My problem is that their only P55 board with both SLI and CFX costs over $200 which is too much to me for a P55.


Try the DP55WG. It also supports both SLI and Crossfire. It can't overclock as much as the DP55KG or DP55SB but its not bad.
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January 2, 2010 8:05:17 PM

No rebate, but you have to pick it up in store (and you have to pay tax).
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January 2, 2010 8:37:00 PM

yeah micro center like to keep good deals hidden at times. Best way to see what micro center truly has (from what i learn) is in google. type in search bar

Micro center: (cpu here)

For (cpu here) type in what you want like core i7 920, 860, ect.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

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January 4, 2010 7:27:45 AM

great you P55 fans now have the option for a h55 and h57 ready motherboard for BD and Hd content onboard....yay..... the X58 should come out with an H58 or something soon then............... gain with usb 3.0..... hehe
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