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November 4, 2011 5:35:42 AM

which company puts out better water cooling items trying to build a set up and want to get the best i can

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a c 330 K Overclocking
November 4, 2011 12:11:38 PM

Koolance is a manufacturer and FrozenCPU is a retailer- completely different. Apples to grapefruit comparison.
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November 4, 2011 8:48:33 PM

ghostmob said:
which company puts out better water cooling items trying to build a set up and want to get the best i can


Koolance is far from the best.
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 4, 2011 9:34:34 PM

And a better piece of information would be your budget, what is your upper limit on the folding stuff?
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a c 138 K Overclocking
November 4, 2011 9:50:41 PM

FrozenCpu sells Koolance products along with other water cooling products , but thier prices are just a bit high. I have found another site that sells a tremendous amount of water cooling products for a bit less and between the two I usually get everything I need. Bitspower and Phobya make a lot of good guality products and at first Koolance was not great for quality but recently they have improved.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php
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November 5, 2011 1:21:19 AM

500-700 is my budget
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November 5, 2011 3:42:16 AM

so what company makes the best watercooling prodcts
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November 5, 2011 3:43:58 AM

any input would be awesome im also have intel /gtx 580 in a 800d corsair case
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November 5, 2011 5:36:54 AM

dam no answers
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 5, 2011 11:27:29 AM

I understand your impatience man, but you have to remember the members here are worldwide so a response may take some time :) 
firstly, 500-700 what? Dollars, pounds rupees, euros?
What are you wanting to cool? the Cpu and Gpu, just the Cpu?
You already said your case so we know the room you have, what Motherboard and chip? just intel doesn't help much, the socket type is what we need to know for the Cpu block
and as a basic answer, no one company makes the best, one manufacturer is great at pumps, one may be a gpu block heaven, but everything else they make is tat,
you need to break a list down and then start researching each component
Cpu block, I'd suggest XSPC's Raystorm right now,
any variant on a Laing D5 pump is going to be a winner (many people rebrand those and sell as their own)
you'll need a radiator or two too, to get rid of the heat created,
fans for the above, maybe a fancontroller unit as well if you want to control them (You do)
tubing, use is obvious
maybe a reservoir, not all loops have one although a majority do
fittings to connect it all together,

check the stickies in Rubix_1011's signature, those are a great place to start reading up, be patient and answers (and help) will come, but in watercooling, rushing and impatience will only lead to frustration, tears and possibly explosions :p 
Moto
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a c 330 K Overclocking
November 5, 2011 2:19:14 PM

Yeah- we have a lot of beginner info here, so take your time, read and learn and most importantly- ask questions. However, we like when people read/learn some first and then ask questions as many beginner FAQs are covered in the sticky.
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November 5, 2011 7:55:08 PM

sorry the dam no answers was for another thread for some new parts i got i couldnt get them working
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November 5, 2011 7:56:01 PM

well I read the faqs page not much on how to post. So I appologize if I didnt post enough looking for gfx / cpu set up either 1 or 2 radiators pretty sure I can fit 2 in the 800d the company is what im more interested in looking for a better performer in this market again I apologize 2ndly I was only rushing at one poinst because i was hoping to get it before thursday because i go on vacation so i would of been able to set it up before i left so again sorry
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a c 330 K Overclocking
November 5, 2011 8:04:16 PM

Take your time and slow down. The more you get figured out now, the better off your build will be when it's time to install. Planning is the biggest part of building a loop- a lot needs to be taken into consideration to ensure you cover all your bases.
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November 5, 2011 8:12:23 PM

thank you
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a c 163 K Overclocking
November 5, 2011 8:18:32 PM

Be also nice to know what you are water cooling..... for example if Sandy Bridge I'd rethink the plan.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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It's almost ironic that [air] coolers like this are becoming available just as processors transition to designs that may ultimately render them unnecessary; even overclocked to 5GHz, an Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K doesn't need anywhere near this level of cooling.


With SB making the better air coolers unnecessary, I don't see a case for water cooling.
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November 5, 2011 8:27:24 PM

well i got stuck in this position because i was rushing lol when i orderd my graphics card and half asleep and ordered a card with water cooling set up on it so its either i send it back or keep it and get water cooling set up
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November 5, 2011 8:29:38 PM

and by the way i have that exact air cooler
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November 5, 2011 9:05:37 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Be also nice to know what you are water cooling..... for example if Sandy Bridge I'd rethink the plan.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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It's almost ironic that [air] coolers like this are becoming available just as processors transition to designs that may ultimately render them unnecessary; even overclocked to 5GHz, an Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K doesn't need anywhere near this level of cooling.


With SB making the better air coolers unnecessary, I don't see a case for water cooling.


In case you want to crossfire and in my case I wanted to get rid of the ungodly air cooled radiator in the case. I water cooled and won't go back to air cooling.
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November 5, 2011 9:10:48 PM

Please use the edit button on your posts please!

Alright, here are the things we need to know:
1) What is your CPU? Socket 755, 1366, or 1155?
2) What is your budget? Dollars? Euros? Yen?
3) Do you plan to go for a single or double loop?
4) What are you cooling? GPU and CPU? Or just one.

And PLEASE be direct with your answers.
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a c 138 K Overclocking
November 5, 2011 9:12:45 PM

What graphics card did you get ? Water cooling is not cheap and can cost you a lot of money if not done right especially if you buy things you end up not needing. You do have to take your time and plan it out. Go to the web sites and look at what parts there are and build your loop on paper first and see what it 's going to look like and if it works. Then price it out by going to different web sites and getting the lowest prices and see what you come up with for a total price.
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November 5, 2011 9:15:13 PM

1) 1155
2)300-700
3) not informed enough whatever is suggested for lower temps so im assuming double
4) both but have hyrdo copper 2 card
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 5, 2011 9:31:16 PM

http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd12v-d5_pump-variable-s...
http://www.xoxide.com/xspc-raystormcpu-waterblock-intel...
http://www.xoxide.com/compfit-id38-od12.html (x2 for every component in the loop)
http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcr320-qp-builtres.html
a 360 will do the Cpu and one card fine,
Due to the fittings size you want 1/2 Od tubing,
http://xsearch.xoxide.com/?keywords=tubing&vwcatalog=yh...
And a reservoir if you want one, loads to choose from including the T-Virus resses, drivebay resses and normal tubular ones,
Again, you cannot rush this, if you want W/c, you have to plan, research and take your time, or things will go wrong and you will be soured on it,
Moto
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November 5, 2011 9:55:46 PM

can you check out a message i posted you motopschojdn
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a c 330 K Overclocking
November 6, 2011 1:48:07 AM

BTW- no need to run a dual loop in almost any build unless you are running a monster loop, and even then, a hybrid dual would be better as you would still use all rads for all components.
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 6, 2011 9:48:22 AM

In response to Pm,
You haven't pissed people off man, its just that we see a lot of people wanting W/c instantly without having to do the necessary groundwork first,
and in W/c you simply can't do that, you are putting water in a computer lol, you have to be on the ball,
we're just trying to get you into the proper mindset required before you potentially blow a pc up, then spend forever warning people of the evils of it because it went wrong for you,
I'm just a little more tactful than a lot of others hehe,
Rubix is the man though, he knows far more than me and is also a decent enough guy from my interactions with him, he helps a lot of people and doesn't stand for crap from the naysayers :p 
if you check the Koolance gear out, you'll find that there are better options, and often cheaper too,
I'd also lose the coolant, just use Distilled water and a killcoil
as a few have mentioned, the main work involved in this is the planning and research stages then by the time the kit arrives, you are more than comfortable with the approach you are taking

For Rubix et al, here a list Op's mate sent
http://www.koolance.com/water-cool [...] ct_id=1197 Pump/REs


http://www.koolance.com/water-cool [...] cts_id=397 x3


http://www.koolance.com/water-cool [...] cts_id=397 radiator


http://www.koolance.com/water-cool [...] cts_id=666 coolant



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] n41z527u3a fans


http://www.koolance.com/water-cool [...] ct_id=2030 cpu block


http://www.koolance.com/water-cool [...] uct_id=764 tubing

I hadn't said but as rubix' just pointed out, the loop I drew up is a single,
if you check your comp fittings against mine,
you'll notice mine have the knurled edge on them? thats very handy for last minute tightening, you will struggle with the ones your mate sent, its little things like that that make a difference in building (both fittings are same price btw)
Think thats all I'd thought of, brain failing atm lol :) 
but ask questions, its way better to answer a load of questions before the build than to sigh and point out an error after someones destroyed several hundred pounds/dollars worth of kit
Moto
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November 6, 2011 8:40:49 PM

have any websites for some basic info on water cooling everything i find is all people trying to buy the set up not learn about it
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 12:25:34 AM

Yes, if you click the links in Rubix' sig as I said earlier theres a load of beginner info to read through,
Or google watercooling basics, that should get some guides too
Moto
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November 7, 2011 12:33:00 AM

sorry i found some guides any suggestions im still at a lost for a set up
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a c 330 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 2:02:51 AM

Yeah, my signature has a lot of links to watercooling info...it really depends on where you want to start and what you have figured out so far. Just PM us if you have any specific questions.
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November 14, 2011 12:26:50 AM

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