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Im from the philippines and im wonderin if anyone can help me on what to buy,im currently looking for a new PCI e Video Card and im planning to use it for gaming purposes,my CPU specs is this

Pentium 4 3GB
2GB RAM
(Currently Using my built-in VC which crap ^_^)

just wonderin on what to buy,here in the phils i can afford at least 5k php max or 6k rather,that's around 120US-150US Dollars
and i wanna know for sure on what to buy cause im planning to play Gears of War and GTA IV on my pc.
So pls give me some clue on what to purchase,email me or reply to this post or PM me here thanks in advance for those who will comply to this.

(Im planning to buy 1 of this babies - "Force3D HD4830 512mb,256bit,ddr3,dualDVI,tv" "Asus EAH3650 SILENT/MAGIC/HTDP 512mb,128bit" and this "Inno3D GEForce 9800GT 512mb,256bit,ddr3,HDTV,DualDVI" )

thanks ^_^


Message edited by vashfrey on 10-16-2009 at 11:02:40 PM
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Are you sure your motherboard has a PCI-E slot? Many P4's did not, how fast is your P4 it may significantly bottleneck a modern card. Also what resolution do you plan to play at? And what power supply do you have, link to it if you can, if its a prebuilt system what is the model number, because you may have to swap that out to safely power a modern card.

Reply to hunter315

^^^^ What he said.

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Reply to c_schwab

Power Supply - ATX-500w
P4 3.0GHZ
yes i do have a PCI E slot cause ived been using an Inno3D 6600 before it broke down a year ago ^_^

Reply to vashfrey

Didn't they (Inno3D) also make AGP versions of the 6600?

Reply to maddoxman

do you know what is your motherboard maker and model?

Reply to renz496

ASUS P5GLMX yeah im sure it has a PCI Express VC

Reply to vashfrey

it seems that your mobo has PCI-E slot for graphic card. but the card that you list in the OP will be bottleneck by the your CPU.

btw if you're looking into playing GTA 4 you're going to need a lot of cpu power because GTA 4 is more CPU intensive.


Message edited by renz496 on 09-21-2009 at 01:49:08 PM
Reply to renz496

then what should i do then???my processor must be replaced???it has 3.01 Ghz and it's still insufficient???what should i do boss??or the mobo needs replacing??

Reply to vashfrey

the problem is such games likes more core on processor. quad core is the best. if you're looking to upgrade your cpu you will have to replace your mobo as well because your mobo only support pentium 4 and celeron D. you can refer here:

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/P5GL-MX.html

Reply to renz496

ouch so i have to completely overhaul my CPU?? T_T is there no other way???

Reply to vashfrey

it depends on what games you're going to play. to play something like GTA 4 (which is rely heavily on cpu) you really have to replace your pentium 4. but since your board cannot support dual or quad cpu you will have to replace your mobo and RAM (if i'm not mistaken your mobo using DDR 400 which is expensive and hard to find these days) as well. in short you might have to built new rig.



Reply to renz496

renz496 wrote :

it depends on what games you're going to play. to play something like GTA 4 (which is rely heavily on cpu) you really have to replace your pentium 4. but since your board cannot support dual or quad cpu you will have to replace your mobo and RAM (if i'm not mistaken your mobo using DDR 400 which is expensive and hard to find these days) as well. in short you might have to built new rig.



is there no other way??? T_T i kinda lack in budget maybe i can skip the GTA part,then what would be the most highest VC that my CPU can handle???pls thanks for your help

Reply to vashfrey

you can try to look on these graphic cards:

HD4650 (GDDR3)
HD4670
9600GSO
9600GT

9600GT is the best between the four while HD4670 is pretty much on par with 9600GSO. the advantage HD4670 over 9600GT/GSO is the card doesn't need 6 pin power connector to power the card.

i'm still using pentium 4 myself :D (3.0 OC@3.3). paired with 9600GSO i'm still able to play some new games like RE5 (high setting, no AA, v-sync turn on) with 30-50 FPS. but i play on small resolution (1024 x 768) :kaola:


Message edited by renz496 on 09-25-2009 at 09:31:41 AM
Reply to renz496

so i really cant play GTA IV?? how sad huhuhu even on small reso's??? lyk 1024 x 768???
and i wanna know if this is the silent type,cause most VC creates sme odd noises ^_^


Message edited by vashfrey on 09-24-2009 at 09:32:15 AM
Reply to vashfrey

sorry to say http://www.gta4.net/news/single.php?id=4135
gta4 need at least a dual core.

what odd noise r u talking about? you sure that isnt from psu?

what renz496 said is quite right. it would be pushing it if you get 4850. 9800gt is also an excellence choice too.

Reply to magicbullet

:)


Message edited by jayce85 on 09-25-2009 at 10:26:59 AM
Reply to jayce85

oh shoot i guess i have to skip playing it T_T, Gears of War???can i play that game???

Reply to vashfrey

gears of war req:

http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10220/

if you're looking for graphic card with passive cooler make sure your case have very good air flow. most modern card can run very hot which is why most mid-range and all high-end graphic equipped with heatsink with fan. if you're not confident enough with your case air flow just get graphic card with fan.

for silent card you can try finding something like this:

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presen [...] 01&pid=205

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Product [...] uctID=2912

Reply to renz496

Jayce85, stop posting that everywhere, it is very misleading. I'm sorry if it doesn't work for you, but for me and thousands of others ATI cards work fine. you have your one thread on the topic, that is sufficient.

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Reply to EXT64

uhm sorry for the late reply,typhoons knock all power supply in our neighborhood for 2 weeks straight....Can my pentium 4 handle this cards - Nvidia 9600GT or Nvidia 9800GT

Reply to vashfrey

i think it can but maybe it will still be bottlenecked. btw 9800GT need more power than 9600GT as it needs 2 6 pin pci-e power connector. if you can save money maybe its time to look for new build. :)

Reply to renz496

but if you really want to play games right now just get 9600GT/9800GT :)

can't edit my comment above :fou:

Reply to renz496

will these cards last??i'm trying to say is,is there a chance that 1 of my CPU parts be broken if i use this cards on my current CPU?whats the drawback here???

Reply to vashfrey

nothing will get harm but you may want to check out if your PSU is powerful enough to power the card. btw new generation cards supporting dx11 is out now but if you get that you really need to get whole new system. the only drawback using the card that you came up with is you're going to stuck with dx10 feature over dx11. but if you're not the one that like to max out everything then you should be fine with those cards

Reply to renz496

Ur pc is overall very old and requires a big upgrade. I suggest u save ur money then when u have some then go for a whole pc upgrade. the price is getting lower and lower so u wont need that much money for a mid range pc upgrade. upgrading just 1 or 2 component in that old pc will bottleneck or maybe even harmful.

Reply to redwine01

hmm then what would you be suggesting for me to buy???from processor to mobo's etc,thanks renz and redwine fr the answers,im still troubled on what to do >.<

Reply to vashfrey

well it depends on your need and budget. for cpu a quad core one will be good choice for you since you want to play games like GTA4. as for the graphic card if you still playing on small resolution GTS250 / HD4850 will be good enough. btw the best way to build a new system is to research about it yourself. :)

Reply to renz496

im nervous now with the compatabilities of the parts...

Reply to vashfrey
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