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September 18, 2009 9:31:06 PM

Im from the philippines and im wonderin if anyone can help me on what to buy,im currently looking for a new PCI e Video Card and im planning to use it for gaming purposes,my CPU specs is this

Pentium 4 3GB
2GB RAM
(Currently Using my built-in VC which crap ^_^)

just wonderin on what to buy,here in the phils i can afford at least 5k php max or 6k rather,that's around 120US-150US Dollars
and i wanna know for sure on what to buy cause im planning to play Gears of War and GTA IV on my pc.
So pls give me some clue on what to purchase,email me or reply to this post or PM me here thanks in advance for those who will comply to this.

(Im planning to buy 1 of this babies - "Force3D HD4830 512mb,256bit,ddr3,dualDVI,tv" "Asus EAH3650 SILENT/MAGIC/HTDP 512mb,128bit" and this "Inno3D GEForce 9800GT 512mb,256bit,ddr3,HDTV,DualDVI")

thanks ^_^

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a c 196 U Graphics card
September 18, 2009 9:44:19 PM

Are you sure your motherboard has a PCI-E slot? Many P4's did not, how fast is your P4 it may significantly bottleneck a modern card. Also what resolution do you plan to play at? And what power supply do you have, link to it if you can, if its a prebuilt system what is the model number, because you may have to swap that out to safely power a modern card.
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September 20, 2009 12:50:39 AM

^^^^ What he said.
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September 21, 2009 4:08:44 AM

Power Supply - ATX-500w
P4 3.0GHZ
yes i do have a PCI E slot cause ived been using an Inno3D 6600 before it broke down a year ago ^_^
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September 21, 2009 4:23:59 AM

Didn't they (Inno3D) also make AGP versions of the 6600?
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a c 145 U Graphics card
September 21, 2009 6:50:48 AM

do you know what is your motherboard maker and model?
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September 21, 2009 10:04:58 AM

ASUS P5GLMX yeah im sure it has a PCI Express VC
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a c 145 U Graphics card
September 21, 2009 11:48:02 AM

it seems that your mobo has PCI-E slot for graphic card. but the card that you list in the OP will be bottleneck by the your CPU.

btw if you're looking into playing GTA 4 you're going to need a lot of cpu power because GTA 4 is more CPU intensive.
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September 21, 2009 5:22:44 PM

then what should i do then???my processor must be replaced???it has 3.01 Ghz and it's still insufficient???what should i do boss??or the mobo needs replacing??
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a c 145 U Graphics card
September 21, 2009 5:36:57 PM

the problem is such games likes more core on processor. quad core is the best. if you're looking to upgrade your cpu you will have to replace your mobo as well because your mobo only support pentium 4 and celeron D. you can refer here:

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/P5GL-MX.html

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September 22, 2009 10:14:30 AM

ouch so i have to completely overhaul my CPU?? T_T is there no other way???
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September 22, 2009 2:53:01 PM

*bump*
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a c 145 U Graphics card
September 22, 2009 4:21:46 PM

it depends on what games you're going to play. to play something like GTA 4 (which is rely heavily on cpu) you really have to replace your pentium 4. but since your board cannot support dual or quad cpu you will have to replace your mobo and RAM (if i'm not mistaken your mobo using DDR 400 which is expensive and hard to find these days) as well. in short you might have to built new rig.



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September 23, 2009 5:37:55 PM

renz496 said:
it depends on what games you're going to play. to play something like GTA 4 (which is rely heavily on cpu) you really have to replace your pentium 4. but since your board cannot support dual or quad cpu you will have to replace your mobo and RAM (if i'm not mistaken your mobo using DDR 400 which is expensive and hard to find these days) as well. in short you might have to built new rig.


is there no other way??? T_T i kinda lack in budget maybe i can skip the GTA part,then what would be the most highest VC that my CPU can handle???pls thanks for your help
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a c 145 U Graphics card
September 23, 2009 6:42:44 PM

you can try to look on these graphic cards:

HD4650 (GDDR3)
HD4670
9600GSO
9600GT

9600GT is the best between the four while HD4670 is pretty much on par with 9600GSO. the advantage HD4670 over 9600GT/GSO is the card doesn't need 6 pin power connector to power the card.

i'm still using pentium 4 myself :D  (3.0 OC@3.3). paired with 9600GSO i'm still able to play some new games like RE5 (high setting, no AA, v-sync turn on) with 30-50 FPS. but i play on small resolution (1024 x 768) :kaola: 
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September 24, 2009 7:29:47 AM

so i really cant play GTA IV?? how sad huhuhu even on small reso's??? lyk 1024 x 768???
and i wanna know if this is the silent type,cause most VC creates sme odd noises ^_^
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September 24, 2009 9:10:16 AM

sorry to say http://www.gta4.net/news/single.php?id=4135
gta4 need at least a dual core.

what odd noise r u talking about? you sure that isnt from psu?

what renz496 said is quite right. it would be pushing it if you get 4850. 9800gt is also an excellence choice too.
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September 24, 2009 9:21:40 AM

:) 

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September 24, 2009 10:12:29 AM

oh shoot i guess i have to skip playing it T_T, Gears of War???can i play that game???
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a c 145 U Graphics card
September 24, 2009 4:17:21 PM

gears of war req:

http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10220/

if you're looking for graphic card with passive cooler make sure your case have very good air flow. most modern card can run very hot which is why most mid-range and all high-end graphic equipped with heatsink with fan. if you're not confident enough with your case air flow just get graphic card with fan.

for silent card you can try finding something like this:

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?psn=0...

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overvi...
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a b U Graphics card
September 24, 2009 4:32:04 PM

Jayce85, stop posting that everywhere, it is very misleading. I'm sorry if it doesn't work for you, but for me and thousands of others ATI cards work fine. you have your one thread on the topic, that is sufficient.
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September 25, 2009 7:26:51 AM

hey i can ^_^
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October 15, 2009 1:54:52 PM

uhm sorry for the late reply,typhoons knock all power supply in our neighborhood for 2 weeks straight....Can my pentium 4 handle this cards - Nvidia 9600GT or Nvidia 9800GT
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a c 145 U Graphics card
October 15, 2009 3:29:57 PM

i think it can but maybe it will still be bottlenecked. btw 9800GT need more power than 9600GT as it needs 2 6 pin pci-e power connector. if you can save money maybe its time to look for new build. :) 
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a c 145 U Graphics card
October 15, 2009 3:33:09 PM

but if you really want to play games right now just get 9600GT/9800GT :) 

can't edit my comment above :fou: 
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October 16, 2009 8:57:34 PM

will these cards last??i'm trying to say is,is there a chance that 1 of my CPU parts be broken if i use this cards on my current CPU?whats the drawback here???
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a c 145 U Graphics card
October 17, 2009 2:17:10 AM

nothing will get harm but you may want to check out if your PSU is powerful enough to power the card. btw new generation cards supporting dx11 is out now but if you get that you really need to get whole new system. the only drawback using the card that you came up with is you're going to stuck with dx10 feature over dx11. but if you're not the one that like to max out everything then you should be fine with those cards
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October 17, 2009 5:19:41 AM

Ur pc is overall very old and requires a big upgrade. I suggest u save ur money then when u have some then go for a whole pc upgrade. the price is getting lower and lower so u wont need that much money for a mid range pc upgrade. upgrading just 1 or 2 component in that old pc will bottleneck or maybe even harmful.
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October 18, 2009 4:06:48 PM

hmm then what would you be suggesting for me to buy???from processor to mobo's etc,thanks renz and redwine fr the answers,im still troubled on what to do >.<
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a c 145 U Graphics card
October 18, 2009 4:53:42 PM

well it depends on your need and budget. for cpu a quad core one will be good choice for you since you want to play games like GTA4. as for the graphic card if you still playing on small resolution GTS250 / HD4850 will be good enough. btw the best way to build a new system is to research about it yourself. :) 
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October 21, 2009 2:36:33 PM

im nervous now with the compatabilities of the parts...
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