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November 7, 2011 3:24:51 AM

ALL HAIL the ~ PC MASTER RACE~,
Im looking for some expert help on doing my water cooling setup for the rig i have "ALREADY PURCHASED". I dont build on budget basis i build on performance basis, i have been building gaming comps for some years now and know my way around , i simply have just never bothered to try watercooling and have always just stuck to a good air cooling heatsink. I decided to take that final step into the enthusiast realm by integrating water cooling .

Here is the build :



Case: Danger Den Black-Series Tower-26 Case

http://www.dangerden.com/store/dd-tower-26-black-series...

MOBO: ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: XFX Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit X2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Powersupply: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Soundcard: ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 Channels 24-bit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wireless adpater: Zonet ZEW1690 Wireless Adapter

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... [note]: not always using dependent on current location and rig setup

DDH: Western Digital Caviar Black X2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: OCZ Vertex 3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




So yea, since bit the cards will be in Xfire i would like waterblocks for the both of them and i was thinking a reservoir kinda like this one?

http://www.dangerden.com/store/danger-den-rad-reservoir...

i would also like the light scheme just like the righ in this vid :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcwcLZn6Wg

please help me out on this guy's i will keep researching myself, and please excuse and mishaps and mistakes i may have made in the post :hello: 


November 7, 2011 3:26:29 AM

Im doing this for performance and to make my comp look beast as hell keep that in mind !!!
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 5:01:23 AM

In that case you want T-Virus resses
http://frozenqpcmods.com/
:p 
available in a slew of colours from that site, who is also the guy that makes them, so if you have any crazy idea's ask, he may make a custom one for you
Theres a couple of stickies up top of the section but if/when Rubux_1011 pops in here, he has some good links in his sig you can check out too
So, Cpu and 2x Gpu loop, one res? Two of those do look good together :p 
and whats your idea on budget for the water?
Moto
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November 7, 2011 6:09:23 AM

Thanks there's no budget to this build. Yes 1 res would be nice but the case is 26" tall and is huge so can fit 2 big res inside and im liking that t virus thing maybe ill check it out
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November 7, 2011 6:10:07 AM

Are there any specific water blocks or anything anyone would recommend or any specific part that out perform the others?
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 6:51:37 AM

The Xspc raystorm is pretty much the Cpu block at the moment,
and you need to decide on the Gpu blocks, are you going for card specific ones or universal?
specific ones (obviously) can only be used on those cards, universals can move to the next build but may require additional heatsinks for the cards Vram chips
that case is made for a 480 rad by design, but don't think that thats any kind of limit, nor does everything have to fit inside the case,
a lot of W/c trickery comes from modding and adapting things to suit your purposes
:) 
check out a few W/c sites like DD, frozenq and post a few ideas back here, I'm sure some of the US side will have woken up by the time I get back to check hehe
Moto
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November 7, 2011 8:06:09 AM

For the gpu blocks card specific seems great to me, and thanks ill take a look at that cpu block.
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a b K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 12:43:43 PM

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I'm sure some of the US side will have woken up by the time I get back to check hehe

Had my coffee and I'm ready to not pay attention in class :D 

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The Xspc raystorm is pretty much the Cpu block at the moment,

Agreed. Depending on where you look, you may find the XSPC Rasa, EK Supreme HF or Apogee XT Rev. 2 for less. All four are great blocks, and I'd really just get whichever is cheapest. Most good tests show them with a degree or two of each other.

That said, I have a bias somewhat towards EK, and the Raystorm's LED would be pretty cool. If I had the choice now, I personally would've gone for the Raystorm.

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and you need to decide on the Gpu blocks, are you going for card specific ones or universal?
specific ones (obviously) can only be used on those cards, universals can move to the next build but may require additional heatsinks for the cards Vram chips


I personally like the specific blocks, but that doesn't mean they're any better. Rubix runs universal blocks on his cards, and they definitely help if you're a frequent upgrader.
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a c 325 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 3:48:38 PM

I do wha...? Yeah, I run Swiftech MCW60's on my cards...the newer models are the MCW80 and MCW82. They flow pretty well- maybe not quite as good as a full cover block, but I've used the same blocks on at least 5 different upgrades.

All the blocks listed above are good blocks and will perform well. Raystorm is the newest and flows and performs excellent.
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a b K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 6:28:10 PM

rubix_1011 said:
I do wha...? Yeah, I run Swiftech MCW60's on my cards...the newer models are the MCW80 and MCW82. They flow pretty well- maybe not quite as good as a full cover block, but I've used the same blocks on at least 5 different upgrades.


I knew they were older blocks, but the real point was the upgradeability :)  I might actually go with universal blocks through my next upgrade cycle, since it would allow me to change GPUs more often.
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a c 325 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 6:32:05 PM

I've always been pretty happy with them, and it's saved me a lot of cash through all the upgrades over the last several years.
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a b K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 6:39:04 PM

rubix_1011 said:
I've always been pretty happy with them, and it's saved me a lot of cash through all the upgrades over the last several years.


Yeah that's what I'm looking for. Especially since I could easily trade my 6950s for a GTX 580 or something, but then I'd be stuck with 6950 blocks and no block for the 580. With universals, problem solved...
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November 7, 2011 6:41:15 PM

AS follow cpu>gpu x2> mobo would i be going for a colling setup like that?

parts i have decided on so far :

CPU block :

http://www.xs-pc.com/products/waterblocks/cpu-waterbloc...

GPU block x2 :

http://www.xs-pc.com/products/waterblocks/gpu-waterbloc...

RES : the green 400mm

http://www.frozenqpcmods.com/lf.php

all we need to find out now is what specific radiator i should get , pumps and hoses and other nozzels or anything i may want and some more bling ?

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a c 325 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 6:50:17 PM

Ah, I see Moto got to you and you found the Frozen-Q.

Each GPU has a TDP of ~250, your CPU looks to be 125w. Make sure you plan your rads (plural) accordingly.

What pump? That isn't listed above...and pretty important. :) 
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November 7, 2011 7:05:54 PM

yea i was asking of any specific pump or radiator anyone could recommend there are alot of choices out there
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a c 190 K Overclocking
November 7, 2011 7:36:29 PM

Time for you to do a little maths I'm afraid, one 120 rad will dissipate between 100 and 150w of heat, depending on quality, fans used, etc
so take Rubix' provided tdp ratings and figure how much rad space you are going to need, bear in mind they are standard measures too, overclocking increases heat output :-)
Allow headroom and then we can start looking at which 480 and 240 youll be buying
Moto
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a c 325 K Overclocking
November 8, 2011 1:13:48 AM

Be aware- TDP is a theoretical ceiling that you could expect to hit at 100% usage of the hardware in question. Power draw in watts isn't exactly 1:1 for output of heat in watts, but it's close enough that TDP for power draw is generally accepted as heat-watt output, as well. So, unless you are running your rig at 100% CPU and GPU load via benchmark, stress-test or software processing applications, you likely aren't going to see that kind of stress...even while gaming. This can allow you some head room to play with if you know the exact purpose your loop and machine are designed to handle.
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