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August 31, 2009 10:02:02 PM

I just got a new 24'' LCD for Gaming and want to play FPS and MMO's at 1920x1200 at High Graphic settings... how do you think this PC will perform at that resolution and graphics?

CASE -=- Coolermaster NV-690 Mid Tower Black ATX Case PS2 USBX2 Firewire & eSATA
POWER SUPPLY -=- Coolermaster Extreme Power Plus 600W ATX 12V V2.3 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan
PROCESSOR -=- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail
HEATSINK -=- Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V H.D.T. 3HEATPIPES Heatsink LGA 1366 775 AM2 754 939 940 W/120MM Fan
MAINBOARD -=- ASUS P5Q ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN 1394 Motherboard
MEMORY -=- Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-8500C5C 4GB 2X2GB PC2-8500 DDR2-1066 CL5-6-6-18 240PIN Memory Kit
HARD DRIVE -=- Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB
MEDIA DRIVE -=- LG GH22LS50 22X/22X DVD+-RW SATA DVD Writer Lightscribe Black OEM
VIDEO CARD -=- EVGA GeForce GTX 275 633MHZ 896MB 2.26GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card


I do want to be able to overclock the E8400 which is why I am going for the P45 board and highly rated Xigmatek heatsink.

EDIT: I should mention that at Canadian prices this comes in at around $1015 which is maxxing my budget.

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August 31, 2009 10:09:28 PM

Don't order tonight unless you get some responses. I'll try and kick something out before I leave work. You can do better.
August 31, 2009 10:21:39 PM

just from looking at the list you can save a little money in the hdd department..a good hard drive that has been recommended by many that im actually ordering. the samsung spinpoint f3. you could also save $ by going with the regular 690 save about $45 between the two
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August 31, 2009 10:21:42 PM

Which version of the ASUS P5Q are you getting. The Pro Turbo, Deluxe, Turbo, SE Plus or Premium. The Premium looks the best but you should also look at the ASUS Maximus II Formula which is a great board but costs double of most of the P5Q.
August 31, 2009 10:25:41 PM

It's not a good time to build a Core 2 Duo system. You can get a better performing AMD build with a better upgrade path for the same price.

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $79.99

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $149.00

GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $139.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $102.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $162.49

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... $211.98 (HD + OS combo)

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $114.99 - $10.00 MIR

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $32.99

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... $41.00

Total - $1,035.42 - $10.00 MIR

You could go with a cheaper PSU, but the above system is ready for another 4870 1GB in crossfire in the future if needed.
August 31, 2009 10:26:00 PM

The main reason for skipping on the E8400 is the LGA 775 socket. Its dead and leaves you no upgrade headroom.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

XFX HD-487A-ZHFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

This is a much better setup and leaves tons more room for future upgrades. Total is $734.94 before tax and shipping. I couldn't find your case on newegg, so add in for that and your CD\DVD drive. (Im not in Canada. Can't figure in taxes or shipping.) The X3 720 is very OC'able. Might even have enough room to bump to the quad core.
August 31, 2009 10:28:05 PM

Dang it shortstuff, got me by 19 seconds.
August 31, 2009 10:31:51 PM

I've been practicing my speed typing. :) 

It's funny, our builds are very similar. Are you watching me? :lol: 
August 31, 2009 10:36:47 PM

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $800 Shipped + $30 MIR (Not Included in Price)

This CPU will overclock like a champ, not to mention the multiplier is unlocked making the process super easy. At your price point, AMD really offers better performance/$, and you can also go AM3 giving you the ability to upgrade down the road. The build you suggested used the outdated 775 chipset, the only sensible Intel path is X58.

Additionally, you could go with the Corsair 750TX PSU, and Crossfire 2 HD4890 for not to much more (<$1000)

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X 100269VXL Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X 100269VXL Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $997 Shipped + $10 MIR (Not Included in Price)
August 31, 2009 10:41:31 PM

Wow thanks for all the great replies. I wasn't sure if I could post links to where I am buying from.

However, I am purchasing from www.ncix.com since they are local and pretty much the best prices in Canada.

I unfortunately do not want to deal with newegg as that means I have to deal with shipping and the overhead associated with not staying local.
August 31, 2009 11:24:45 PM

Does that Dark Knight Heatsink fit on AM3? It only says AM2 on the spec sheet.
August 31, 2009 11:25:56 PM

AM2 and AM3 use the same mounting. Any cooler that works for AM2 will work for AM3.
August 31, 2009 11:34:56 PM

Alright so I have adjusted my shopping cart due to all the great replies from you knowledgeable people! How am I doing?

CASE -=- $85.81 -=- Coolermaster cm 690 Mid Tower Black ATX Case 5X5.25 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound Firewire & eSATA
POWER SUPPLY -=- $111.99 -=- Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan
PROCESSOR -=- $174.98 -=- AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Triple Core Processor AM3 2.8GHZ 7.5MB Cache 95W 45NM
HEATSINK -=- $69.99 -=- Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V H.D.T. 3HEATPIPES Heatsink LGA 1366 775 AM2 754 939 940 W/120MM Fan
MAINBOARD -=- $155.33 -=- ASUS M4A78T-E ATX 790GX Socket AM3 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI HDMI Video Sound GBLAN
MEMORY -=- $124.99 -=- Corsair XMS3 DHX TW3X4G1600C9DHX 4GB 2X2GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN Memory Kit
HARD DRIVE -=- $57.99 -=- Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive OEM
MEDIA DRIVE -=- $37.79 -=- LG GH22LS50 22X/22X DVD+-RW SATA DVD Writer Lightscribe Black OEM
VIDEO CARD -=- $249.99 -=- EVGA GeForce GTX 275 633MHZ 896MB 2.26GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card

Total: $1070.86 CDN

Those are all canadian prices quoted from www.ncix.com.
August 31, 2009 11:45:14 PM

The build is looking pretty good. Corsair RAM is usually overpriced and I don't trust Seagate drives, but that's just personal preference.

Your motherboard and PSU support crossfire, so it would make more sense to use an ATI GPU. I would look for either a 4870 1GB or 4890 1GB card.

Sapphire VAPOR-X Radeon HD 4870 750MHZ 1GB 256BIT DDR5 PCI-E HDMI DVI-I VGA Video Card $179.99

XFX Radeon HD 4890 1GB 850MHZ 1GB 3.9GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDTV Video Card $219.99

Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty $76.99

Mushkin HP3 996629 4GB 2X2GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit $109.99
August 31, 2009 11:59:45 PM

The one time I had a ATI card (X800 Pro) I really didn't like it and have used Nvidia in all other cases with no problems, I would really rather not go the ATI route.
September 1, 2009 12:05:08 AM

How does that motherboard fare for overclocking compared to the one I had listed?
September 1, 2009 1:11:53 AM

shortstuff_mt said:
I've been practicing my speed typing. :) 

It's funny, our builds are very similar. Are you watching me? :lol: 


You know that little glimpse you catch out of the corner of your eye. You look, but there's nothing ever there. That's me. :D 
September 1, 2009 1:45:19 AM

decidence said:
Wow thanks for all the great replies. I wasn't sure if I could post links to where I am buying from.

However, I am purchasing from www.ncix.com since they are local and pretty much the best prices in Canada.

I unfortunately do not want to deal with newegg as that means I have to deal with shipping and the overhead associated with not staying local.


Cool!, I live near NCIX as well and buy from there often, but their prices are insane compared to newegg.. I wish I could buy online =\

Mostly azns work there :sol: 
September 1, 2009 4:52:11 AM

So I bought my parts ($1030) and put it all together, turned it on and the monitor won't come on. Any idea's? I have power going to the mobo and the 6 pin power to the 4890 (which I decided to get), and all fans are on in the case and on the heatsink.

The monitor just keeps switching between Digital and Analog trying to find a connection and then stops trying.
September 1, 2009 5:04:40 AM

You have power going to the mobo.......... 20/24 pin AND the 4/8 pin ? Everything else is plugged in ? drives/hd etc............. and doesn't the video card have 2 6 pin connectors ?..... or a 6pin and 8pin..??
September 1, 2009 5:09:06 AM

I looked up the board. It has on board video. Connect your monitor to that and see if it boots... ( pull the video card for now )
September 1, 2009 5:11:56 AM

There is a ATX12V connector on the mobo which I have nothing plugged into because I don't see my power supply having this wire.

The video card has a 6 pin AND 8 pin, but the PSU only has 1 8 pin and since this PSU is supposed to support Crossfire I am guessing the 8 pin isn't required... I tried plugging it in and it just made the fan a lot louder.
September 1, 2009 5:18:20 AM

I would have thought that the power supply would have had........ or an "8" pin would have come with the card. You may need it.......... did you do the other thing I said........... pull the card and hook up to the on board to see if that will get it to boot /
September 1, 2009 5:18:37 AM

Tried pulling out the video card and using the onboard video, still nothing.
September 1, 2009 5:20:20 AM

You need to spend some quality time with your owners manuals. You HAVE to have the main 24-pin motherboard connection, CPU ATX 12v, and BOTH PCI-E power connectors plugged in. The computer doesn't stand a chance of booting without all four connections plugged in.

Which PSU did you end up getting?
September 1, 2009 5:23:45 AM

That Corsair 750W, and I don't see a 4pin on it...

EDIT: There is a detachable 4 pin on the main power cable but since it connects at the same spot I don't think this comes apart for the ATX12V does it?
September 1, 2009 5:34:18 AM

NO............... Do not detach and use that one. There should be another 4pin ( square) to plug on to the board up around the processor. If that power supply doesn't have one it probably has an 8pin plug. It's ok to use only half of it ( 4 opf the 8 pins ) Just don't try and separate them. Use the whole 8pin and plug in only the 4 that you can. Should boot then.
September 1, 2009 5:36:03 AM

Ah I see, the 8 pin actually comes apart (and clips together).

Edit: Now the monitor responds and flashes in big red letters that I haven't connected one of the power connectors to my video card. But there is no more 8 pin wires from the PSU...
September 1, 2009 5:40:51 AM

Oh, you can combine the 6 and 2 pin connectors?
September 1, 2009 5:42:59 AM

Yes, the 750TX has four 6+2-Pin PCI-E power connectors for the graphics cards. They can be used as either 6-pin or 8-pin depending on your GPU.
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