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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:09/04/2009 us $310

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Streaming Movies,web surfing, Playing SC/SC2

PARTS NOT REQUIRED Mouse, Monitor, Keyboard

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:TigerDirect, Newegg

OVERCLOCKING: No

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Motherboard must have HDMI


GIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2H LGA 775 Intel G41 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128396

Intel Celeron E1500 2.2GHz 512KB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor 49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116075

Patriot Signature Dual Channel 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 80bui0MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) 28.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 7&CatId=10

hec Black 0.7mm Thickness SECC Steel 7KJ9 Micro ATX Media Center / HTPC Case w/270W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811121068 58.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD322HJ 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM 49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152096

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151175

I will be building my brother a HTPC, this pc will mainly be used for Streaming movies, playing Starcraft and web surfing so i need i know i dont need a Video card. Tell me what you guys think.

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you could get this case w/ psu. save a couple dollars.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811154062

also consider this mobo/cpu combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.240746
it is the new 785G chipset mobo which would be ideal for htpc & 2.8ghz cpu.

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Reply to godless

The AMD combo would be a HUGE upgrade. I highly suggest going with that combo. I would also go with the new Samsung F3 500GB drive. It's a faster drive with more storage for an extra $5.

I would ditch the IDE DVD burner for a SATA model.

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM $29.99

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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just be careful with the case. it only accepts the low profile pcie cards. that means you will have to look around for a tuner/cable card. or you can use usb one. just a little reminder.

also here is some memory from newegg with free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146526

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Reply to godless
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Thanks for your suggestions guys, do u think the picture would look good? its gonna be connected to LCD 720p 32" through HDMI

Reply to zir
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if ur gonna go with the amd/785G combo then hell yes. 785G handles both video and sound through hdmi really well. my htpc with this chipset and a phenom processor looks amazing on an oldie 42" phillips lcd 720p tv.

i'm not at all sure how well that intel chipset can handle sound/video through hdmi.

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Reply to godless

The AMD motherboard and CPU will easily play 720p HD content. The G41 chipset is not a very good option for a HTPC. I use an old HD2600XT in my HTPC. 720p and 1080i content looks very nice on it.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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New build

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail
$121.99

Patriot Signature Dual Channel 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) 28.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 7&CatId=10

APEX DM-318 Black Steel MicroATX Slim Case Computer Case ATX12V Flex 275W Power Supply - Retail $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811154062

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 152181&Tpk 54.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151187 29.99

total $ 280.85

Looks like a pretty good build what do u guys think

Reply to zir

That PSU concerns me, might be worth spending a little more to get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139008

Great deal after MIR.

Reply to Transmaniacon

It's looking good! What OS will you be using? You could step up to 4GB of RAM and stay under $310. It's kind of weird to see a new build with 2GB of RAM.

WINTEC AMPX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 3AXT6400C5-4096K - Retail $48.99 - $10 MIR

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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you can save 5 bucks if you go with this latest generation seagate hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148469

don't listen to the post above me with the corsair psu. IT WILL NOT FIT THE CASE. this is a slim micro atx case, not atx case

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Reply to godless
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and the psu will handle your system just fine. i have a similar case, the dm-387 model with same psu ( same case, just different front ) it handles my amd phenom 9500 2.2 ghz quadcore with 785 chipset mobo just fine. i can even use my phenom II 955 , but at full load the psu fan ran loud. still stable.

and by the way, the psu has only one sata and one ide power in it. you will need ide/sata power adapter if both the hard drive and dvd drive are sata.

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Reply to godless

The F3 from samsung is the newer HDD, not the 7200.12

Sorry about the ATX conflict, I wasn't so much concerned about the power, but moreso the reliability.

Reply to Transmaniacon
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the psu is the cheapest part in this computer configuration and the first part to die. it's not gonna last forever, but it can handle this configuration easily.

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Reply to godless
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Well maybe i should go with the ide burner? and im thinking of switching the ram to
Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory Model, maybe 4g if i could stay within my budget, btw this is my 2nd build

Reply to zir
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here are two more htpc cases with power supplies for your consideration

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811164098
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811144232

they all have cheap psu that will end up dying on you in couple years anyways. you'll need to replace them, but for 50 bucks, it's hard not to buy this case/psu combo

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Reply to godless

I would keep the SATA drive and just get one of these:

LOGISYS AD203 4Pin Molex to SATA Power Adaptor - Retail $2.49

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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the linkworld case i just sent you is only 40 bucks with 400 watts. you can save 5 dollars if you get this case, lol. i'm just not sure what your budget is? 310 dollars, 280?

 

also it has a lot more molex connectors judging by the pictures. but you'd still need the power adapter thing.


Message edited by godless on 09-01-2009 at 02:27:07 AM
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Reply to godless
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The budget is 310, the linkworld case has alot of bad reviews :( and is huge or so they say

Reply to zir
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just trying to give you some options. i know the linkworld sucks. that why i got he dm-387 case myself. i'd say that having a 280 dollar htpc build is very good. personally i don't know where we could go even cheaper except for the motherboard. but most definetly stick to the one i recommended.

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Reply to godless
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I appreciate your help godless :), i was wondering maybe get add another 2gbs of ram do u guys think the psu can handle all of that by psu i refer to
APEX DM-318 Black Steel MicroATX Slim Case Computer Case ATX12V Flex 275W Power Supply - Retail $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811154062

Reply to zir
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another 2gb of ram? easily. ram doesn't use all that much energy. unless you got some freaky 2.1volt ram. i believe the one you are getting is 1.8 volts.

i don't see why you would use 4gb of ram. just buy two for now. and if its' not enough, just buy two more. 4gb seems a lot for htpc purposes.

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Reply to godless
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here is a link to a power calculator. it will let you know how big of a psu you need.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

 

i'm getting about 193 watts with a tad bit faster processor ( athlon 3.oghz) and 4 sticks of ram @ 100% full load. you will almost never be at this amount. so dont worry.

 

i'd guesstimate that your idle power would be less than 100 watts.


Message edited by godless on 09-01-2009 at 03:01:33 AM
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Reply to godless

As much as 4 GB of RAM is nice to have, it's not necessary for an HTPC. It's more useful for gaming. Half the posters in this thread are still on 2 GB, and It's fine to use.

I also agree with shortstuff_mt. Stay with the SATA drives and buy a connector, or just switch case/PSU. The choice of case/PSU seems to be you're biggest concern. Get someting that fits your size and look desires. I doubt the PSU will die very quickly with that setup. It should get you a few years without a problem.

Reply to Paranoidmage
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Thanks guys thinking of using Windows 7 x86 what do u guys think? if i do i will go with the 4gb ram, OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $55

Reply to zir

I agree with Trans: an investment in an 80+ certified PSU with active PFC is a sound buy but not sure if u ok with this mATX case i picked out hehe. Free ship too ^^
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/9361.jpg

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GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail
$121.99

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227298 $51.99

APEX DM-318 Black Steel MicroATX Slim Case Computer Case ATX12V Flex 275W Power Supply - Retail $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811154062

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 152181&Tpk $49.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 827151187]

Decided to use windows 7 x64 hence the 4gigs of ram, in regards to the psu i update about a month after i build system when my brothers gets the money

total cost 301.44, not bad for the money


Message edited by zir on 09-01-2009 at 03:03:11 PM
Reply to zir
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sounds good. another update will be a remote control. kinda sucks if you would be using a mouse and keyboard to watch movies.

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Reply to godless
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True do u think i have enough space for a tuner card? it would be nice to be able to record some tv and have a remote ;)

Reply to zir

Sure, you can get a TV tuner card. Just be sure to get a low-profile one so it fits in your case. I've had great luck with the Hauppauge HVR-2250, but it's a little spendy.

Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Media Center Kit Dual TV Tuner 1213 PCI-Express x1 Interface - Retail $127.99

Of course there are cheaper options out there. Would you want a dual tuner so you can record two shows at once or record a show while watching another? What type of TV signal would you be recording? Cable, digital over a roof-top antenna, etc...? Those will all play into which tuner card is recommended.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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Hmm low profile card, well i'll be using regular old cable any suggestions? also i would like to record one while i watch another, or watch and record same show would be gr8


Message edited by zir on 09-01-2009 at 05:01:14 PM
Reply to zir

The HVR-2250 above has a dual tuner that can record either analog or digital. Do you have basic cable or digital cable? I just have basic analog cable. My HD content comes from an OTA antenna. I don't have experience with recording digital cable using the cable box. If that's what you're looking to do I'm going to have to punt to someone with experience with that. If you're just looking to record analog cable, I can help with that.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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yea basic analog cable, i dont have a cable box

Reply to zir

The one shortstuff linked will be great for your purposes, it also gives you the option of recording/watching HD content, should you upgrade in the future.

Reply to Transmaniacon
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Anything around a bit less expensive, Money is scarce

Reply to zir

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6815116007

You wont get a dual tuner for much less, but this one here is a good choice and about half the price.

Reply to Transmaniacon
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Nice, im assuming im gonna havto replace psu to @least if i get that card

Reply to zir

That one won't fit in his case. He'll need a low-profile tuner. Good low-profile dual-tuner tuner cards don't come cheap. Here's another option, but I only have direct experience with Hauppauge tuners. I can't speak from experience on how well it'll work.

ASUS My Cinema-PE9400 Combo TV Tuner Card w/Low Profile Brackets - Retail $79.99 - $30 MIR

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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Nice an ASUS card, i will add that when i upgrade the psu if i havto?

Reply to zir

You shouldn't need to upgrade the PSU. TV tuner cards don't draw that much power. I'm running two dual-tuner TV tuner cards, a highly overclocked CPU, and five HD's in my system.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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Nice seems like im going to be ordering

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail
$121.99

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227298 $51.99

APEX DM-318 Black Steel MicroATX Slim Case Computer Case ATX12V Flex 275W Power Supply - Retail $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811154062

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 152181&Tpk $49.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151187

Next month

ASUS My Cinema-PE9400 Combo TV Tuner Card w/Low Profile Brackets - Retail $79.99 - $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6815293002

$381 for a pretty nice htpc not bad pretty powerful as well

Reply to zir
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congrats. seems like a decent full htpc system for less than 400 bucks.

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Reply to godless
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f.y.i. you could always get the extenral ( usb 2.0) based tv tuner/video card ( whichever you are looking for). if you can find one cheaper. i can't recommend you one, because i don't know enough about the different brands.

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Reply to godless

Here is a really good source for researching and comparing TV tuners for HTPC's:

http://www.hdtvtunerinfo.com/

On that site there is a table that lists most of the popular tuners by interface, ranks them, and gives pros/cons for each.

Check it out here.

Reply to rwpritchett
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thanks rwpritchett. tons of usefull information. i'm glad to see that 64 bit is one of the columns in the charts.

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Reply to godless
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True maybe the usb tuner would be the way to go, i was also thinking maybe later on i can add a video card but i don't know if it will be necessary to play Starcraft 2 when it comes out 1st quarter of 2010, also do u guys think i can maybe OC the CPU to 3.0 or would it get to hot. Many thanks for all your help guys :D


Message edited by zir on 09-02-2009 at 04:07:38 PM
Reply to zir
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Hey guys do u think this would be a good choice for a tuner?

Pinnacle Remote Kit for MCE - USB 2.0 Receiver, Full MCE Remote Control, Vista Certified
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=1428

Reply to zir

That's not a tuner, it's just a remote.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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Yea your right saw it came with a small box thought it was both

Reply to zir
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Wow Nice system, less than 310 and u have a hell of a rig, I'm jealous... ;(

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