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I am new to the HTPC and mostly computer building world. I have to admit its been very confusing and overwhelming so far researching on my own....especially since non of my friends dabble in any technology at all! So I am turning to everyone for help because I can't even make enough headway to create an example build to reviewed yet!

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: By October 1

BUDGET RANGE: $550 or less

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT
:

1. Playback of 480p, 720p, 1080i (Ripped/Recorded/Downloaded: Moves, Tv shows and DVD stored on HDD).

2. Up converting content to 720p, 1080i

2. Recording HD and SD digital cable from cable top-box.

3. Running TED (Torrent Episode Downloader) for TV shows.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard/Mouse/DVD Drive

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS
: tigerdirect.com, newegg.com or (any that is trusting and provides reasonable prices).

PARTS PREFERENCES:

1. I would like to use which ever brands are best for playing and up converting content of 480p, 720p, 1080i (i.e. whether Intel, AMD, NVIDIA).

2. I also am trying to figure out what the advantages/disadvantages are of using either: Mini-ITX, Micro ATX, or ATX and which on would fit my needs the best.

3. Would like wither MB or Graphics card to have HDMI.

4. Like to connect computer to my receiver via Toshlink.

OVERCLOCKING: No

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe?? Not totally sure what these are and if it will benefit me???

MONITOR RESOLUTION: My monitor will be a Panasonic VIERA TH-42PX80U plasma TV its a 720p capable of up-converting to 1080i.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
:

1. I would like it to fairly quiet with a average power consumption.

2. Will on-board integrated graphics be enough for HD or will using a discrete graphics card display better?

3. I would like to connect to the TV via HDMI!

4. I want to thank everyone who is able to contribute, i could really use the help!

For you requirements, an AMD rig would suit you best...

CPU - I chose this CPU because its a Tri-core and would be better than dual cores for converting videos and is a low TDP CPU - hence would utilize less power...
AMD Phenom II X3 705e
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103683

Mobo - Has the required HDMI and is a very good mobo...
ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131406

RAM - A very good 4GB DDR3 kit...Go with 2Gb if you dont want 4GB for your usage...
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227346

CASE - It is a Mini tower case that can accommodate even an ATX mobo...And it can he placed horizontally or vertically...
COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119195

PSU - Corsair 400CX - Has more than suffice power for that setup...It can also power even a HD 4850 just in case you wish to upgrade from the onboard graphics...It is about $30 after $20 Mail-In-Rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139008

HDD -
You would have to choose from these based on your requirements...
If you want speed and noise is not much of an issue, then get this HDD
WD Black 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284

But if you are very much concerned about noise over speed, then any of these drives...
Samsung F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
Seagate 1TB 7200.12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148433

If you want OS, then get this combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 22-136-284

Total - ~$555 | $535 with rebates...
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For you requirements, an AMD rig would suit you best...

CPU - I chose this CPU because its a Tri-core and would be better than dual cores for converting videos and is a low TDP CPU - hence would utilize less power...
AMD Phenom II X3 705e
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103683

Mobo - Has the required HDMI and is a very good mobo...
ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131406

RAM - A very good 4GB DDR3 kit...Go with 2Gb if you dont want 4GB for your usage...
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227346

CASE - It is a Mini tower case that can accommodate even an ATX mobo...And it can he placed horizontally or vertically...
COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119195

PSU - Corsair 400CX - Has more than suffice power for that setup...It can also power even a HD 4850 just in case you wish to upgrade from the onboard graphics...It is about $30 after $20 Mail-In-Rebates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139008

HDD -
You would have to choose from these based on your requirements...
If you want speed and noise is not much of an issue, then get this HDD
WD Black 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284

But if you are very much concerned about noise over speed, then any of these drives...
Samsung F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
Seagate 1TB 7200.12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148433

If you want OS, then get this combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 22-136-284

Total - ~$555 | $535 with rebates...

Reply to gkay09

Both gkay and batchuka, you did a good job picking parts keeping power usage in mind.

The only part I might chime in on gkays build is the HDD. Get a LP or green flavor. This system will be on all the time and any spot you can chop power, the better.

If you do go with batuchkas build, it definately leaves room to get a blu-ray player for $70 or so and still come in under budget.

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Reply to skora

Well as for the HDD, that is the reason why I had suggested the 7200.12 and Samsung F3 drives...Those are little more efficient than the WD Black drives and have noise level comparable to the Green ones...
So you still get better performance comparable to the Blacks and noise levels and efficiency comparable to the Green series...So they are more of a balanced drives...

And the Green series and LP are more of backup/ Secondary drives rather than boot drives...
So I would still suggest F3/ 7200.12 over the Green/ LP ones for primary drives and when you want to increase the storage, you can get the Green/ LP ones...

Reply to gkay09

This might be steering the topic a bit away but no one answered the part on how to record HD content from a cable top box. I'm also interested in doing that, is it possible?

Reply to eladtan

^ If your Set top box has a Firewire, then it becomes pretty easy...
Here is a post that will help you with that...
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=429065

Reply to gkay09

gkay09 wrote :

^ If your Set top box has a Firewire, then it becomes pretty easy...
Here is a post that will help you with that...
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=429065



Reply to eladtan

I would not plan on recording too much unless you have good local OTA signal for HD. Cable TV providers are moving towards cablecards required to get HD channels and recording from a satellite provider in HD is not a good option. The long term prognosis for HTPC and TV recording only looks good for the free antenna channels.

Reply to DiscoDuck

This is awesome, thanks a bunch gkay09, batuchka, and skora! This definately the direction I needed. A question I have is what would be the difference in performance from the two systems, because I noticed the difference in price is about $200.

Thanks again

Reply to Benight27

i agree with disco duck, it's not that cost effective to try to recreate with an HTPC what a settop box does for $5 a month.

I have an HTPC but I don't do any recording with it. I leave that to my DVR, which does a much better job of it.

My HTPC does a good job of letting me show my family and friends pics of the kids, watching downloaded episodes of shows I forget to record, DVD movies, eventually blueray movies when I get around to buying a bluray player/burner, and hulu.

May I suggest Antec's Verios which allows you to control your HTPC with a simple remote control. I can turn mine on (and off), launch the media player, and control the DVD controls from that simple little remote. I think for $20, every HTPC should have one. I have the basic version which takes up a 3.5 in bay. There's a $20 version that plugs into a USB port, and then there's more expensive versions with VFD or LCD displays.

Reply to bliq

@Benight27 the $200 difference between my build and batuchka's build is because of these...
1. OS - ~$100
2. 4GB RAM - ~ +$35
3. Tri-core instead of Dual core - ~ +$50
4. Combos not included

Reply to gkay09

I've been doing some research the last couple of months on building a HTPC and I'm also new to this. Thanks Benight27 for asking the exact question that I had in mind and thanks to everybody for responding.

I do have an added question I'm hoping someone can answer. Is there a slightly cheaper solution, somewhere around a $200-$300 range. The only thing that I want to use my HTPC for is to stream 1080i or 1080p videos directly from the HTPC to my Samsung PN58B550. I have an ethernet cable coming directly from my router to my TV and what I'll be using to stream the vids and music is XBMC for windows.

Thoughts?

Reply to infamous09

infamous09 wrote :

I do have an added question I'm hoping someone can answer. Is there a slightly cheaper solution, somewhere around a $200-$300 range. The only thing that I want to use my HTPC for is to stream 1080i or 1080p videos directly from the HTPC to my Samsung PN58B550. I have an ethernet cable coming directly from my router to my TV and what I'll be using to stream the vids and music is XBMC for windows.

Thoughts?



With a $200-300 budget, maybe you should consider a Popcorn Hour setup? As long as the media you want to stream is supported, that would be the least expensive way to go. Otherwise, you can consider a linux based low-end HTPC.

Reply to rwpritchett

rwpritchett wrote :

With a $200-300 budget, maybe you should consider a Popcorn Hour setup? As long as the media you want to stream is supported, that would be the least expensive way to go. Otherwise, you can consider a linux based low-end HTPC.




Linux based low-end HTPC would be best, any suggestions?

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