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Possible i7 build for ~$1000 suggestions welcome!

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September 1, 2009 5:17:25 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: One week to a month BUDGET RANGE: around $1000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: multi-tasking (usual programs); programming; multimedia; gaming (mostly WoW)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I'm not buying any peripherals (monitors, kbd, etc) and I'm reusing one of my SATA HDDs

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: NewEgg or any reputable site

PARTS PREFERENCES: I want to build a solid i7 rig

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, but nothing extreme SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Not initially, but I would like to keep the option open

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050


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This is what I have put together so far:


Case:
I really like this solid, clean looking case, but I'm open to other suggestions if there are some ones that aren't too crazy that people really like.
Antec P183 Black Aluminum / Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Motherboard:
I originally went with the Asus p6t, but I had several people recommend this gigabyte.
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

CPU:
Just the standard i7 920

RAM:
Looked like a good set, but I really don't know too much.
CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8 G - Retail

Graphics Card:
I originally had the nVidia GTX 260 core 216 but I had several people this card was better bang for the buck.
ASUS EAH4870 DK/HTDI/1GD5 Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retai

Power Supply:
This seems to be a pretty popular power supply right now. I want one that will be able to handle a couple more hard drives (which I will be adding later) and possibly another graphics card.
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail

Optical Drive:
Just a standard SATA dvd/cd rewritable

Cooler:
I'm not sure if I need a different CPU cooler, but I had a lot of people recommend to get one.
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

It seems like this would be a pretty good build, but I was wanting to run it by you guys. I figured you guys might have a few different ideas than me. I'm not really attached to any particular component so I'm open to any suggestion. Thanks for any help!

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September 1, 2009 5:30:43 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retai

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product... $111.99 Free Shipping
PC Power and Cooling SILENCER 750W QUAD S75CF Power Supply Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=I7-920 $269.99 Free Ground Shipping
Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8MB LGA1366 CPU, OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MX2 $4.49
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-OCZ3P1600LV6GK-PC3-12800-1600... $113.99 Free Shipping
OCZ OCZ3P1600LV6GK DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz 6GB Platinum XTC Triple Channel Kits

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $144.99 Free Shipping*
XFX HD-487A-ZHFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product... $64.99 Free Shipping
WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB SATA II 7200 RPM 32MB Buffer Hard Drive Bulk

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $29.99 Free Shipping*
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM

Total: $1,027.40
September 1, 2009 5:41:26 AM

That is a pretty good build...
Mobo - Just a heads up on the mobo, if you are sure of not going more than 6GB of RAM, then only go with that mobo...because if you add a 2GB stick to the 4th slot, then you would loose the Tri-Channel config and would affect the performance of the PC...
Some other options if you want to go over 6GB...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This board doesnt support SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - Get this RAM instead...It is a solid value for money component...
OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz Intel Extreme Edition XMP Ready Series 6GB CAS 7
$83.79 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-PC3-10666-1333MHz-Extreme-Opt...

CASE - That case is a good choice...
But again you can check out these too...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - I dont think you would require 750W PSU...And newer graphic cards are going to be out by October...So instead of going with multiple cards and dealing with issues related to crossfire, get a single powerful card...and anyways WoW doesnt support multiple cards...

Rest are very good...
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September 1, 2009 5:42:31 AM

Id stick with the antec case .

Either/or for the 4870 1 gig and gtx260 216 . These are so close its best just to buy the cheapest one .

You need a hard drive . The fastest drives in that price bracket are 500 gig.
Either the Samsung F3 500 gig or the seagate 7200.12 500 gig
Models are important .

You will not need a 750 watt psu . 650 will be plenty . The corsair 650 tx or 650 watt antec earthwatts [ which was cheaper ]
September 1, 2009 6:13:05 AM

If you stick with the Antec P183 case, then get the deal with the CP-850 power supply, you pay less ($240 combo deal) and get a higher quality power supply then the Corsair or the PC Power and Cooling 750w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Or to save money go with the Coolermaster RC 690 case and the Coolermaster UCP RS700 power supply combo ($145)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
September 1, 2009 6:42:56 AM

The problem with the 850 watt psu is that it will be even less efficient than the 750

Using
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.js...
at max load with a bunch of USB powered devices and 5 fans that pc is going to pull 338 watts , and most of the time it will draw even less .
Best efficiency is in the 50 60 % load range

650 watt max for psu efficiency
September 1, 2009 7:30:29 AM

The CP 850 runs at 82.8 - 85% efficiency at those loads, while it could be better, it's still very good and if he ever runs high end SLI the added headroom for overclocks, HDs, lights etc. is always good to have. The UCP 700 is silver rated (though it only made bronze at very low levels) but it was at 84-87.3% at the same levels.
September 1, 2009 3:16:09 PM

gkay09 said:
That is a pretty good build...
Mobo - Just a heads up on the mobo, if you are sure of not going more than 6GB of RAM, then only go with that mobo...because if you add a 2GB stick to the 4th slot, then you would loose the Tri-Channel config and would affect the performance of the PC...
Some other options if you want to go over 6GB...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This board doesnt support SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


You are right, I don't want to lose tri-channel if I do decide to add more ram. So now I don't know what mobo to get lol... Between the EVGA SLI LE or Asus p6t which is the better board? They are about the same price right now. Or as Why_Me suggested the ASRock board?

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone!
September 1, 2009 3:23:17 PM

I've seen a handful of good reviews of the Asrock X58 boards and my experience with Asrock over this last year has been very good. I'd have no qualms about using an Asrock motherboard in any of my builds. The Asrock X58 Extreme keeps selling out at newegg as soon as they get them in stock ($170), the deluxe is $205. Since WoW is main function check these benchmarks for GPUs. (GTX260 is highly rated.)
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689378/WoW-Wrath-of-...
September 1, 2009 6:42:49 PM

dirtmountain said:
I've seen a handful of good reviews of the Asrock X58 boards and my experience with Asrock over this last year has been very good. I'd have no qualms about using an Asrock motherboard in any of my builds. The Asrock X58 Extreme keeps selling out at newegg as soon as they get them in stock ($170), the deluxe is $205. Since WoW is main function check these benchmarks for GPUs. (GTX260 is highly rated.)
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689378/WoW-Wrath-of-...


Cool thanks for the info. I'll check out the Asrock x58 for sure. I checked out that benchmark link too and according to that, the gtx260 and ati 4870 perform at almost the exact same level. I'll probably just go with the cheaper one.
September 1, 2009 8:22:32 PM

dirtmountain said:
The CP 850 runs at 82.8 - 85% efficiency at those loads, while it could be better, it's still very good and if he ever runs high end SLI the added headroom for overclocks, HDs, lights etc. is always good to have. The UCP 700 is silver rated (though it only made bronze at very low levels) but it was at 84-87.3% at the same levels.



good point , even the 850 is still very efficient in that power range

You do save a few $ by using a 650 , but thats about all
September 1, 2009 8:43:21 PM

It seems like a lot of people go overboard with PSU's. Check out Antec's PSU calculator. I plugged in a high end mobo, i7-920 (overclocked), 3 sticks of ddr3, one sata hdd, an HD4870 1GB, an optical combo drive, 5 USB devices, and three 120mm fans. Antec's recommended PSU size: 356 watts.
Save yourself a little more ching and get a bit more efficiency and go with a smaller one yet; Silencer 610 or Corsair 550VX.
September 1, 2009 9:36:05 PM

Here's a very good article about power use from xBit using hardware specially developed by the author to get accurate readings from each component in a system, it's well worth a read. The actual power use at load for the i7 920 (not overclocked) a GTX260, 3x1 GB DDR3, single HD and burner is about 370watts. Most power supply companies recommend running a PSU at about 60% of it's rated capacity at load. Here's the article.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/system...
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