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September 4, 2009 6:40:02 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: (Should be built in the next Month) BUDGET RANGE: (example: US$1300-1500)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Multitasking, Internet
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor, Speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com. or what ever is cheapest

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel i7, Nvidia

OVERCLOCKING: I want to












IM OPEN TO ALL SUGGESTIONS


THE BUILD




********WAITING TO BUY LIST******



what else should i get or what should i upgrade




2. EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682022603...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



(i want to max out my Antec 1200s fan options) So how many more could i install?
APEVIA CF12SL-UBL 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...





******ALREADY PURCHASED*****


1. Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...


1. Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Standard Eclipse Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech MX518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical 1800 dpi Gaming-Grade Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAZER RZ81-00030101-B2M1 eXactMat and eXactRest Bundle - Mouse Pad and Wrist Rest
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAZER Carcharias 3.5mm Circumaural Professional Gaming Headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...







thank you for the help. Just remember everyone was a newb at one point. hehe
September 4, 2009 6:59:49 AM

You need to go with a 3 x 2GB kit (or 6 x 2GB or 3 x 4GB would work too) in order to use the Triple Channel memory:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Consider this mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I like it a little better than my 518

I personally wouldn't spend that much money on a Graphics card. I prefer single GPU graphics cards because I don't feel like relying on (waiting for) SLI profiles. I would get an EVGA GTX 285.

I am very happy with my 625W modu82+ power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Although, you may consider getting a higher wattage PSU if your going to stick with the GTX 295.

The ASRock motherboard has gotten good reviews, but I still don't trust them and would get an Asus or Gigabyte motherboard insted but that is just a personal preference.
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September 4, 2009 7:19:29 AM

thanks for the advice

i updated my build on what you suggested
September 4, 2009 7:30:24 AM

^ That's a pretty good build...
Can you tell at what resolution do you game ??
I ask this because for resolutions upto 1920X1200, the GTX 275 performs very similar to GTX 285 and is about $100 less...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And do you require 12GB of RAM ?? For gaming, and other general multitasking, anything over 6GB is an overkill...
But if you still want to go 12GB, then get 2 of these...Good timing, cheap and XMP profiles...
http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-PC3-10666-1333MHz-Extreme-Opt...

PSU - As you want to overclock and go SLI, the Corsair 750TX is the best option...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 4, 2009 7:57:05 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$15.00 Combo Price: $354.98
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product... $104.99 Free Shipping
PC Power and Cooling SILENCER 750W QUAD S75CF Power Supply Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail
Free Scythe fan w/ purchase, while supplies last

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-MX2 $4.49
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$7.00 Combo Price: $192.98 Free Shipping*
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=SH-S223L $29.99 Free Ground Shipping
Samsung SH-S223L/BEBS 22X SATA DVD+/-RW Internal Drive (Black), Bulk w/ Software

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $219.99
GIGABYTE GV-N275UD-896I GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Total: $1,114.40 *not including shipping, taxes and rebates

* Another good combo deal. Same build as up above but with this combo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$15.00 Combo Price: $374.98
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Total: $1,134.40 *not including shipping, taxes and rebates

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=... <--- Cooler Master Storm Scout

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/landing/haf922/ <--- Cooler Master HAF 922
September 4, 2009 8:01:36 AM

thanks gkay09,

I updated my build, i think im going to stay with the 12gs of Ram. Im pretty sure im gunna get that power supply because ive heard so much about it but on terms of graphics cards, so far i want to stay with the gtx 285. What are the differences between the 275 and the 285 thats worth $100+
September 4, 2009 8:07:18 AM

Enjoy said:
thanks gkay09,

I updated my build, i think im going to stay with the 12gs of Ram. Im pretty sure im gunna get that power supply because ive heard so much about it but on terms of graphics cards, so far i want to stay with the gtx 285. What are the differences between the 275 and the 285 thats worth $100+



The 285 is not that good of a deal for the cost of fps. btw...what in the world do you need 12 gigs of triple channel RAM for ? That much RAM might hinder your o/c not to mention the heat that's going to be produced when all 6 sticks are side by side on that mobo. And what is your monitors resolution ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,226... <--- gtx 275 review/benchmarks

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,226... <--- dual gtx 275's > gtx 295
Anonymous
September 4, 2009 8:16:26 AM

Note that you have 30 days to register your card to get lifetime warranty like evga.
September 4, 2009 8:19:19 AM

Quote:
Yea the 285 is not worth it. It would be better getting the 275 or if you really want Performence get that card XFX Lifetime warranty and free shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... XFX 4870X2 2GB GDDR5


That's a tough call for the fact that for $60 more he can have two of those gtx 275's in SLI compared to one 4870 x2.
September 4, 2009 8:24:43 AM

Why_Me said:
The 285 is not that good of a deal for the cost of fps. btw...what in the world do you need 12 gigs of triple channel RAM for ? That much RAM might hinder your o/c not to mention the heat that's going to be produced when all 6 sticks are side by side on that mobo. And what is your monitors resolution ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,226... <--- gtx 275 review/benchmarks

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,226... <--- dual gtx 275's > gtx 295

Alright so i geuss im going the 275 route, saves money so thats good.

I wanted more then 6 gigs but from my noob experience the next step is 12 gigs. What would you suggest?
September 4, 2009 8:27:41 AM

Enjoy said:
Alright so i geuss im going the 275 route, saves money so thats good.

I wanted more then 6 gigs but from my noob experience the next step is 12 gigs. What would you suggest?


3x2 gigs for now. The only time you need 12 gigs of that RAM is if your going to be doing photo shop professionally (that's just an example). Seriously... 6 gigs of that RAM is probably more than what you will ever need.
September 4, 2009 8:28:37 AM

I suggest getting 6 now, if you really need 12 later you can always buy 6 more.
September 4, 2009 8:29:42 AM

oh, and don't forget, your gonna need a 64 bit OS
September 4, 2009 8:34:36 AM

Alright you guys got me, ill trust you.

So which Ram would you suggest, I dont kno which ones to get.

I know that those Corsair Dominators are over priced
September 4, 2009 8:40:30 AM

pshrk said:
I'm sure you already have a hard drive but you may want to consider a new one, especially if your current hard drive isn't that new. I'm partial to seagate, but I hear good things about WD and Samsung as well:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for the advice but im pretty sure im gunna get some new ones for free do to my dad being good friends with a owner of a computer company. So i can get things like that for free.
September 4, 2009 8:44:41 AM

I ended up picking these

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231225
September 4, 2009 8:53:46 AM

I would suggest this RAM over that one....Just $10 more but comes with Free Shipping so the price difference would be negligible...
But as for quality, this would be better than that RAM and far better in terms of speed and timings...
mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 CAS 7
$129.99
Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 4, 2009 9:04:49 AM

Alright, Ive updated everything that you guys have mentioned.

What do you think??

Im at $1490 with shipping and taxes included
September 4, 2009 9:15:30 AM

You can check out this CASe + PSU combo...
That PSU is also of very good quality and if this combo would still be available when you purchase, then get this...Else stick with the Corsair...
1. Antec Nine Hundred Black
2. Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
September 4, 2009 9:25:16 AM

Haha, alright after many revisions and updates i think im there.

So right now if i were to go order all this and set it up im good to go.

Not missing anything???

thanks gkay09
September 4, 2009 9:27:11 AM

Build looks very good. Imho you should change your Thermal Compound to ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 that Why_Me suggested. The main reason is that Arctic Silver5 takes around 200 hours to cure before temps stabalize. NewEgg has the ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 for $7.98, but you can get it for $4.49 at SuperBiz.

I see some Items tha are not listed in your Build. Operating System, DVD Burner and HDD. You know that you will have to use a 64-bit OS for the 6gb of ram to show up and to be used. Plus NewEgg has a 72 hr deal on the WD 640gb Black edition HDD that is tough to pass up. Will add these items below in case you forgot to list them in your build.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $74.99 ($64.98 with Promo Code EMCLXLP48)Free Shipping*

Sony Optiarc DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model AD-7241S-0B LightScribe Support $33.99

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee (Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon) $109.99 Free Shipping*

Also get your Graphic card and CPU in the Combo Deal and save another $25.00.

Hope this helped out a bit more. :) 






September 4, 2009 9:43:43 AM

Yoosty said:
Build looks very good. Imho you should change your Thermal Compound to ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 that Why_Me suggested. The main reason is that Arctic Silver5 takes around 200 hours to cure before temps stabalize. NewEgg has the ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 for $7.98, but you can get it for $4.49 at SuperBiz.

I see some Items tha are not listed in your Build. Operating System, DVD Burner and HDD. You know that you will have to use a 64-bit OS for the 6gb of ram to show up and to be used. Plus NewEgg has a 72 hr deal on the WD 640gb Black edition HDD that is tough to pass up. Will add these items below in case you forgot to list them in your build.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $74.99 ($64.98 with Promo Code EMCLXLP48)Free Shipping*

Sony Optiarc DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model AD-7241S-0B LightScribe Support $33.99

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee (Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon) $109.99 Free Shipping*

Also get your Graphic card and CPU in the Combo Deal and save another $25.00.

Hope this helped out a bit more. :) 


Thanks abunch man, I updated it yet again and im loving this build more and more. I think im done other then the OS
September 4, 2009 10:41:38 AM

You do know you can not use a Promo Code with NewEgg Combo Deals'. So the WD 640gb HDD will revert back to the 74.99 price.

You will save $14.00 total by using these Promo Codes on the WD 640gb HDD (using Promo Code & saving $10.00) and OCZ Ram ($4.00 using the Promo Code EMCLXLP62) .
NewEgg Promo Code Email

OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $124.99 (Your Price: $120.99 with Promo Code EMCLXLP62)Free Shipping*

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $74.99 ($64.98 with Promo Code EMCLXLP48)Free Shipping*

Also you should of stayed with the Corsair 750tx PSU at $89.99 after MIR, it is better then the PC Power & Cooling PSU at $104.99 since both have Free shippimg.
September 4, 2009 11:22:49 AM

Building such system wouldn’t be complete without a 10’000 rpm Hard disk, with 16MB cache. It would give you a big boost. Get one around 100GB to 150GB ( i.e western digital velociraptor WD1500HLFS) , which is more than enough to install Operating System and commonly used applications. And get a second 7200 rpm Hard drive for other data’s (or use existing one HD).

Motherboard first choice should be Asus (very reliable), Second Gigabyte. ASrock famous for making cheap boards. Make sure is got the latest chipset.

Don’t spend too much money on expensive Memory, you would hardly see any difference. 6GB is more than enough. Read toms hardware reviews esp ;Do you need more than 4GB Of Memory‘.

Try to use quite CPU and case Fans.

Add Bluetooth to your system.


September 4, 2009 1:33:35 PM

velociraptors are old news they pushing 3 yrs already any modern 7200rpm drive will match it even surpass it in some instances the new samsung f3 will send a velociraptor packing i have one and its a lil faster then my old wd 500 but much quieter if you want speed nothing beats an ssd asus make asrock and all i7 chips use triple channel ram for optimum performance like 3gig 6 gigs 12 gig 24 gig ect
September 4, 2009 7:29:33 PM

bump
September 4, 2009 7:55:22 PM

Enjoy,

If the OS is only thing that is keeping you from placing order. Then you have 1 of 2 options', get Visat Prem. 64-bit OS w/Win7 Upgrade Coupon or Order parts now and get Retail version of Win7 64-bit when it comes out in October 22nd. Because a number of the prices will go up if you wait past this coming Sunday.

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee (Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon) $109.99 Free Shipping*

Pre-Order Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full - Retail $199.99 Free Shipping*

Thought you were going with this motherboard below, it is the Dark (suprise) Horse of the x58 mobo's.
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $169.99


Now make your mind on OS and Get it done on ordering. But also keep us inform on how your Build is coming along. Good Luck now.
September 5, 2009 12:20:31 AM

Alright, Yoosty. You werent really that clear on what you stated. What i interpreted was that i should buy vista now and save $100.

Tonight im going to buy my case and power supply because the power supply im buying is on a deal until tomorrow and i want to buy the case now.

I dont have all the money for evertything at the moment so im going to buy my graphix card and other stuff later due to the price drops that happen.

Please respond asap because im buying some stuff tonight and need to know what would be the ideal situation
September 5, 2009 2:27:10 AM

I was just giving you a friendly nudge on buying the items for your Build that were on sale, before they raised the prices. Please keep us inform on how your Build is going. :) 
September 5, 2009 5:04:40 AM

Thanks for the help bud. I wasnt angry at you, just didnt under stand.

Im getting my Case and PSU tonight off of new egg.

Im gunna also try to get Vista 64 bit this weekend also
September 5, 2009 6:10:18 AM

Tonight i ordered all of this stuff



CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Standard Eclipse Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823175103

Logitech MX518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical 1800 dpi Gaming-Grade Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826104178

RAZER RZ81-00030101-B2M1 eXactMat and eXactRest Bundle - Mouse Pad and Wrist Rest
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826999019

RAZER Carcharias 3.5mm Circumaural Professional Gaming Headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826153043



1. Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

September 5, 2009 8:37:25 AM

You will have to go 64bit if you want to use all of that RAM - 32bit windows only supports up to 4GB of RAM (and what shows up is 4GB minus total video card RAM because of something between video card an RAM). I have 4GB RAM and windows (32bit) shows up 3581MB because thats 4096MB minus a 512MB graphics card.

It would pay to have a look into benifits and downsides of running 64bit windows:
http://www.w7forums.com/windows-7-64-bit-vs-32-bit-t484.html

And if you can, absolutely go for a Windows 7 upgrade OS package - I've been running win7 for a while now and it is ultimately awesome. That is some praise considering I hate Vista.
September 5, 2009 8:39:35 AM

Yeah im definently going 64 bit with Windows 7
September 5, 2009 10:40:52 AM

bump
September 5, 2009 6:50:40 PM

bump
September 6, 2009 6:10:43 AM

What all do you need to pick out still?
September 6, 2009 6:15:05 AM

Nothing at all. I just wanted to see what should be upgraded out of what im getting. i have an extra $100 to shell out. And i was wondering if my parts are good. i want to be %100 sure on what im buying
September 6, 2009 7:38:14 AM

They are most definitely all good ^_^
September 6, 2009 7:41:25 AM

sweet, i wasnt too sure about my motherboard but i geuss its alrite. Its gigabyte so im all set.

And i know that samsung hard drive is really good but wasnt too sure about the western digital.

I might as well just buy two Samsung f3s
September 6, 2009 8:06:52 AM

Western Digital Drives are very reliable. Haven't used Samsung but I've heard good things. From experiance, don't use segate, I had two of 8 drives fail in a 2 years.
September 6, 2009 8:19:05 AM

I think im gunna get 2 samsung f3s. they look good.

oh and is my mother board alright?

other then my mother board i feel really confident about my build and am ready to order
September 6, 2009 1:02:47 PM

If you have concerns then just get the board from Microcenter. You can take it back if you find that it has issues. I THINK they have a 30 day exchange period. I was going to get mine from there as well but then that ASRock board was in stock on newegg for a couple days and I got that instead.
September 7, 2009 10:48:22 AM

bump
September 7, 2009 11:12:56 AM

so whats the total price range so far for all that stuff
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