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September 6, 2009 12:04:55 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: N/a

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Mainly operations like copying files from drive to drive, some gaming, DVD burning.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Case, Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: http://www.interwebcomputers.com.au/ (Local computer shop)

PARTS PREFERENCES: Looking towards a Intel Core 2 Quad, with a Asus P5N-D nForce 750i SLI LGA775 motherboard.

OVERCLOCKING: Not sure, do I need to?

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Using a 17' for now, buying a 22' later. (Mainly doing using this new pc on 22')

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Have no idea on what video card to buy. I do not need a big Hard Drive. Kind of limited to parts from the listed website only.

BUDGET: Under $1000 Australian Dollars.

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September 6, 2009 12:19:23 PM

So we can best help you, use the link in my sig and edit your first post. We'll be able to get you the best solution for your budget we can with the extra info.
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September 6, 2009 12:21:30 PM

What is your budget?? I would higly recommend against buying a Nvidia chipset, since they are not the most reliable boards out.

Depending on your budget, I would recommend an AM3 build or wait to see how the prices fall on Tuesday for the Core i5/i7 (socket 1156) release
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September 6, 2009 12:28:55 PM

Okay, thanks for that.
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September 6, 2009 12:37:19 PM

Edited, sorry about that.

Any suggestions now?
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September 6, 2009 2:03:17 PM

Man, is that site hard to navigate and even hard to find good parts. Any chance what so ever of any other place to shop. They don't offer 64 bit Vista for HP. So unless they offer free Windows 7 upgrade, I'd wait till Oct to build a system.

If you already have a case, do you already have an optical drive?

Not knowing what your vid resolution makes picking a GPU impossible. But I started with a 4670 for basic GPU and the price goes quickly up from there.

I couldn't get a quad in there. And for what you're doing, not sure if you need it. A quad and that mobo eats half your budget alone. And with the Ram, PSU, HDD, OS, and optical running over $500, there is no room for a GPU.

From what I gathered from that site, here's a few recommendations:

Ram - There was only 1 4gig DDR2 kit for $92. Seems fair enough.
PSU - I like the Silverstone 500w for $95. Good name and enough power to run a 4850.
HDD - The WD 320 AAKS drive was a good price for whats offered at $102.
Optical - $47 for a Sata DVD burner sound right?
OS - Vista Home Premium 32bit for $187 (see comment above.)

If you need this now, that leaves $500 for the GPU, CPU, and mobo. The 4670 is $200, and the E5300 is $124. $140 for a G31 mobo and you're out of budget. There's $35 left, but the first P5Q line mobo is $60 more, no options in the middle. Same with the CPU, you could spend $145 on the E6300 and stay under budget, but nothing in the middle.

Another options is the 4670 $200, AMD 250 CPU $142 with the only 780g mobo offered at $175. All the rest stay the same, but puts you over by $43.
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September 7, 2009 5:22:11 AM

I would want to run Windows XP Professional since iv'e got the disk for it.

Also my monitor that I will be using now for it is about 17' (Not sure on resolution)
But in future I am going to be getting a 22'.

Mainly, all I want from you guy's is just a suggestion on what Motherboard, CPU, Video Card to use.

Thanks.
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September 7, 2009 6:08:15 AM

For an Intel build, I thought of this.

Motherboard: Asus P5Q Intel LGA775/FSB1600/Expressgate/Dual ChanDDR2 1200/1066/800/667 MHz/PCI-E/RAID/GB LAN/8-channel High Audio/ATX
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 CPU, 2.66 GHz, FSB 1333MHz, 2x2MB L2 Cache, Socket LGA775, 45nm, 95W
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

RAM: DDR2 PC6400 800MhZ 4GB (2x 2GB) Dual Channel Kit 128X8 CL5 RET Pack
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

HD: Seagate 250GB 16M SATA-2 7200RPM ST3250410AS
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

DVD Drive: SONY DRU865S INTERNAL 22X DVD BURNER SATA LIGHTSCRIBE
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

Video Card: Not Sure. (Read 1st post)

Power Supply: Not Sure.


Thoughts?
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September 7, 2009 6:14:41 AM

Everything above without a video card and a power supply is $778.
Got about $200 - $350 for a Video card and a power supply.
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September 7, 2009 12:07:43 PM

Put the OS in the parts not needed in the first post.

While I still suggest just a dual core, taking the OS out of the requirements frees up enough money to get a quad. It runs you right up to that $1125 price, but that decision is up to you.

CPU: Q8400 $257
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...
Before you buy this, make sure it comes with a fan. The Q9400 has both a box and non box listing and the Q8400 doesn't say box. So it might just be the chip and not HSF included. You'd have to buy one of those too.

Mobo: Asus P43 $202 (-$26)
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...
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the P45 you picked. They do the same job, except the P43 doesn't have raid controller.

Ram: $92 as above

HDD: $102 The WD drive will perform better and has more space for $4 less.
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

DVD: $77 as above.

PSU: $95 Silverstone 500w Will power any of the GPUs listed below.
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

GPU: $274 GTX 260 This will completely destroy your 17" monitor and be a great fit for a 1680x1050 22". If you get a 1920x1080 22", you'll still do good, just med settings instead of high.
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

Middle of the road would be the GTS250 for $221
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...

If you really don't care much about the settings and just want to be able to play, then the 9800GT for $194 is a good too. You'll be stuck at lower settings gaming on a 1920x1080 if that's where you end up for a monitor, but will still be great on the 17".
https://www.instantpcshop.com.au/pcshop/445/index.php?p...


Total with the GTX 260: $1099 with P43, or $1125 with P45
Total with the GTS 250: $1046 with P43 or $1072 with P45
Total with the 9800GT: $1019 with P43 or $1045 with P45

$30 can come off all the prices if you don't need the lightscribe optical.
If you are still under budget, the Q9400 is only $29 more. Main difference is it has more cache, not that big of a deal for your uses, but it is close enough in price to ask the question.
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September 7, 2009 2:24:38 PM

I would suggest an AMD phenom II x2 or x3, but even the 720 is super expensive relative to the prices over here. How many drives are you going to be running? I doubt you need a quad if you arent going to be doing heavy video or photo editing.
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September 8, 2009 3:25:35 AM

I would suggest getting a resonabley spec'd dual core processer and overclock it if you like. Not a huge number of games or software use more than one core. I agree with above - if you aren't doing any kind of rendering then quad core is pointless.
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September 9, 2009 9:21:21 AM

Some Photo editing, but yeah.. if I can get a quad... wouldn't it be better?
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September 10, 2009 5:38:36 AM

Well here's my final builds:

Intel Core 2 Quad 2.6GhZ or Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0GhZ
Asus P5Q Pro Motherboard
Manli GTX 260
DDR2 Ram
DVD Song Lightscribe Burner
Silverstone 500W
WD 320 GB

AMD Build:

AMD Phenom ii tripple core 720 Black Edition 2.8GhZ
Asus M4A78 PRO motherboard
Manli GTX 260
DDR2 Ram
DVD Song Lightscribe Burner
Silverstone 500W
WD 320 GB


What you's think?
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