[Solved] I need rumors on GT300 please

check this out

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15688/1/

^^ If true, then right on schedule.

If they are very lucky maybe u will see those cards at december but else its in 2010. And yes it will fully support dx11 and have 40nm architechture for lower power consumption and lower heat. But the problem is yet we are not seeing any concrete specification or even some leak pictures of GT300. So i guess Nvidia still havent ready the cards and it will take a while for them to ready the cards they we will start seeing rumors specification and pictures. Nvidia is trying hard to get those leaked pictures and specification out in the market as soon as possible to make people hold or wait but its gonna take time. So yes there's a chance u may not see GT300 in this year. The 5x series from Ati is pretty much reasonably priced so u can grab one of those. U wont regret it as the price wont fall that much even after couple of months unless Nvidia do some real magic

rumor has it that it is a re-branded G200b core

Theres the 5870x2 coming in November as well.
I wouldnt completely give up on the 5870 as yet, as Im inclined to think there may be some decent driver improvements, due to ATIs rush out the door, the new MC,shaders etc. Given time, which ATI has, by the time G300 comes, the 5870 may be 5-10% better, or possibly more in some games

Yeah, ATI/AMD's drivers are always absolutely terrible right off the bat. Even the 4800's were that way. They get better with time, so I'm expecting the 5800s to be pretty darned good.

And seriously, what's with the disappointment about the 5870 not beating the 295 all the time? From what I've read, it's right there with it, or slightly behind. Who cares? It's a single card keeping up with a dual-card solution. Pretty impressive, I think.

Well, the sad thing is that in canada, we had a shipment of around 20 to one store (seems the only store...) and it sold out the day before it was suppose to be "out", and there are around 25 pre-orders today when I called....

long story short, because of its lack of 295 pwnage, and its lack of insta-pickup-upgrade-ness, it's making me think before I buy, which is not good rofl

ATI currently have a big leap over Nvidia at this moment. in addition, Nvidia has yet release any sort of benchmark at all. so they claim that it is going to be "smooth." however in business economic theory. if nvidia has something up their sleeve, they would have show it right when ATI launch the 5870 to cool the market down.

i'm assume that Nvidia is in some dip *** position.
perhaps, it's gonna be delay, shortage, or performance isnt so great comparatively to ATI.

why so disappointed? sheesh, the 5870 will play any game out there. Kinda like being disappointed cause the new Viper will only run 200 mph and not 210.

I absolutely expect the 300's to be faster and more efficient than the 200's. But since it's on the same nano tech as the already released ATI chips, science demands that Nvidia is under the same restrictions of physics as ATI.

If Nvidia's chips use a larger die than ATI, I expect Nvidia to be faster. But they'll also require more power. So then the question comes down to price, driver performance, and added features. They have to compete into ATI's already competitive pricing.

If you're in the market for a $300-400 card, I don't see why you'd bother to wait for Nvidia. If you're looking for the next best thing to trounce the 295, then I can understand why yo'd wait... though getting a pair of 5870's would do the trick.

AMD/ATI say on their website that the drivers for the ATI radeon HD5870, and HD5850 that driver support is scheduled for release in 2010. So therefore according to that information that GPU definately still has a chance of kicking out the Nvidia GTX295, but probably not until the Nvidia GT300 series are out themselves.

So here it is; if you are busting to upgrade your graphics processor and can't wait until DAAMMIT release their drivers, I say go for ATI's HD5870 or HD 5850, because it will get you playing today's games a lot better than your old 7900GS for now and should get better with new driver releases.

And if your comparing specifications the new Nvidia core design is supposed to have 600 stream processors, and the ATI core design has 1600, so if you believe that roumor, AND believe the more the merrier ATI would be your choice anyway.

Here's DAAMMIT website where they state when the Driver support will be released (down bottom in small print) http://www.amd.com/us/products/des [...] tions.aspx

AND then there is the Intel Larrabee!

happy shopping,
Luke

I think it comes down to what drivers will come for ATI and what Nvidia brings to the table, as far as performance goes.

In the end Nvidia will still be very costy and ATi very cheap.

I can't believe people are disappointed in the 5870 not beating the GTX295 in every single test. Do you not realize that performance doesn't jump through the roof every single release? You should like you though one of the fast cards ever released (295) was suddenly going to become the low-end card for $50. The fact a single GPU can beat it, or even come close is quiet something.

The HD 5870 is competeting with the gtx285 (the fastest single card). It beats the gtx285 in every single test and even beats the gtx 295 in some tests.
LOWEST PRICE ON NEWEGG:
GTX285:: 320 LOWEST
HD5870:: 380 (but thats pre release so expect prices to fall up to 20 dollars in the first week)
GTX295:: 480 (buts that is while supply lasts on MSI N295, normal price is 520$)

Thats just facts up to now. Drivers are expected to improove a bit in the next few weeks and will probably bring the 5870 even closer to the GTX295 for more than 100 dollars less

There is a rumour that a test card made of pure unobtainium has achieved some unbelievable framrates at never to be seen resolutions, honest guv.

Actually its Ultrararium that was used

Waits for lower prices and job. Dreams about 5850 :sleep: :sleep: But also thinks about 5770 :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: Wakes up and looks for job, not much work in town :sweat: might get job next week. Gets impatient and buys 5870

Also, the 5870 is a SINGLE card vs the 295... while they are similar in performance, I can tell by personal experience that the Quad SLI scaling will not keep up with 5870's in crossfire....

Yeah, like I said... personal experience !

I am hoping the Lucid HYDRA puts a end to scaling crap with crossfire/SLI. If it works like they claim, hell if it works half as good then we should see a end to that.

Well a few places have gotten working boards in the past few months, and they do work with mixing Nvidia and ATI and different series cards, but we will have to wait and see on the performance side of things.

Hopefully it works at least as well as SLI/CF as far as scaling and performance because then it will change the upgrading game quiet a bit.

It is expensive, but I think if it works vendors will not care, they can see the market this is aimed at. This works great for those on a budget, who want a new build (maybe core i5) and don't want to drop a ton of money on a new GPU or don't want to be tied to 1 company or the other for Crossfire/SLI in the future.

And for the high end I can see a ton of very happy people to think they can run our and get a 5879 and still run it with their 4870x2 in Hydra mode.


I guess, as with all things, only time will time but if it works, even half ass well (in the way a software update might fix later on) I myself might pick it up for a 2nd computer build later on.

My replacement cycle is 5 years. and i had a 6800GT that died and was replaced for free by evga with the 7900GS, I allocate around 500-600 CAD for gfx each purchase

way too lazy for that lol

Driver cleaning / Reinstall windows every time.....

DCing is easy, but if it needs a reinstall then its FUBAR

BTW I have no brand loyality, so I go from nvid to ati all the time and vice versa

EDIT had to add in the vice versa part b4 some rtard misunderstands it

Ah, let him do the rational thing (wait). There isn't any huge rush as, in my opinion, there aren't really that many good games that require new supercards YET. Hopefully that will change in 6 months, but by then 380's will be out and 5870's will be cheaper. And who knows, maybe NVidia has an ace up their sleeve (or not, doesn't really matter to me. I'm eying a 5850 for about January).