Ok So I'm currently a network student doing a 4 month co-op term, making pretty good cash and I haven't updated my computer in 4 years lol. I was just wondering if anyone could help build me a new computer which could get the best for my money which is $1200.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
Looking to order it within 1-2 days max.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
Its going to be a gaming computer, but it should be able play the new Call of Duty : Modern Warfare 2 on max details without any fps lag, as well as any other high graphics demanding game coming out in the future. Plus being able to run multiple VM wares without lag would be a additional bonus.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
Don't need a Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse and CD Drive and Speakers.
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:
I'd prefer http://www.tigerdirect.ca/ but if you can't http://www.newegg.ca/ is fine.
PARTS PREFERENCES:
I've had both Intel/AMD base computers in the past and I liked them, so it doesn't matter which you pick.
OVERCLOCKING:
Yes if possible, as for SLI/CROSSFIRE whatever is honestly the better deal.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
The case doesn't have to be flashy, just be able to fit everything in it.
Thanks for your help!!
edit: I've been looking at prebuild PC's @ http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] ?CatId=114
if you think any of those are built well enough tell me, thanks.
wait a tiny bit more when core i5s/dx11 come out so all the other stuff will lower in price then buy i7 when it reaches 250 dollars canadian
| ubernoobie wrote : wait a tiny bit more when core i5s/dx11 come out so all the other stuff will lower in price then buy i7 when it reaches 250 dollars canadian |
i could wait, but i'm pretty impatient. i'd rather just buy something now.
edit: unless i can get one of those very soon lol.
anyone here
| draalin wrote : anyone here |
* Edit... vid card has been added to this build.
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] omoid=1055 $57.98 CAD
Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] Technology $94.99 CAD After Mail In Rebate: $69.99 CAD
OCZ FATAL1TY 550W ATX12V 20/24PIN Active PFC ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 80PLUS Black
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] e=Gigabyte $149.99 CAD
Gigabyte P55-UD3R ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 4PCI SATA2 RAID Sound Glan Motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] ture=Intel $244.99 CAD
Intel Core I5 750 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.66GHZ 8MB Cache Retail Box
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] OLERMASTER $22.99 CAD
Coolermaster RR-910-HTX3-GP Hyper TX Series Aluminum 3-HEATPIPE CPU Cooler S1156/775/AM3/AM2/939/940
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] %20Cooling $9.99 CAD
Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound Paste NON-ELECTRICAL Conductive 4 Gram
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] omoid=1055 $244.99 CAD After Mail In Rebate: $229.99 CAD
MSI GeForce GTX 275 Twin Frozr OC 666MHZ 896MB 2.322GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E 2XDVI Video Card
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] re=G.Skill $109.99 CAD
G.SKILL F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24 Core I5 Memory Kit
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] omoid=1055 $76.99 CAD
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty
http://ncix.com/products/index.php [...] re=Samsung $34.48 CAD
Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE 22X DVD+-RW SATA DVD Writer Black OEM
Total: $1,047.38 CAD before taxes, shipping and rebates
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 2116677CVF $142.99 Free Shipping*
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM | Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon
| Why_Me wrote : I need to know what your monitor resolution is before I can suggest a video card for this build.
|
I'm at work atm but I ussually run at a 1680 x 1050 resolution (I think) Its a 20" new LG LCD monitor.
thanks for the help though, i didn't think that i5 was out yet lol.
with that resolution......a gtx 275 would be killer.
had another question, is there a noticeable difference between 1600mhz ram and 2000mhz? to the point where its worth the money upgrade?
I was looking through these
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] CatId=4331
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] =O261-8120
In a word....NO. Actually the OCZ-1333 would be fine. The Corsair Dominator is what I am running and from what I have read and seen, a good quality ddr3-1333 with good timing is really all you need, the extra speed doesn't get you anything for the price. So if I was doing it over....I would get a $100 dollar set of OCZ gold and be done with that. Save yourself some scratch.
Well after going to newegg...I couldn't find a ddr-1333 6 gig gold kit....they are all 1600 which is fine only 120 or so for that still 60 cheaper than the dominator.
And if your going to go with the I-5 750 then go with ddr-2 1066 4 gig kit...from the reviews it does just as good it seems...unless I am miss-understanding the reviews....which is probable, LOL
There is just so much info out there with all the reviews and all the websites doing different configs it gets kind of confusing!!! I'm lost as usual. Someone with a brain will be here shortly to get this lined out.
| jack64 wrote : There is just so much info out there with all the reviews and all the websites doing different configs it gets kind of confusing!!! I'm lost as usual. Someone with a brain will be here shortly to get this lined out. |
yeah im so confused, lol. I really want to order from tigerdiect since I can go pick it up plus everything has worked fine so far.
I've been fooling around trying to keep it under 1200. I'll post it soon to see what you think.
Tiger direct is a great place to order from!! I only buy from newegg coz on some things it is cheaper....but I have to have everything shipped.
You need to use DDR3 RAM with the i-5 CPUs.
I would stick with the build why_me suggested, and keep the DDR3-1600 because it is popular and easy to find.
As for a GPU, both the GTX275 and HD4890 are great choices, it really comes down to benchmarks on the games you play, or your brand preference.
| Transmaniacon wrote : You need to use DDR3 RAM with the i-5 CPUs.
|
yeah i'm pretty sure i'm going to go with the i5. they just posted one up on tigerdirect today (the place i'm going to order from)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] CatId=4731
You are right...I saw the 1066 speed and 4 gig on HardOCP website and mistook that for ddr2.
Thanks...I knew I was confused as usual and slightly dazed too! LOL
I've been debating and why_me's choices seem very good. But I'd like to spend a bit more on my pc I think since I hate upgrading every year or so. I was wondering what you guys thought of this
I know I'm missing a motherboard/fan.
Not sure on which ones I want yet.
And I was unsure of the videocard i picked out.
Here is one I built and it is a little more than you wanted to spend...but it is a good one, I think.
Kinda hard to see....sorry
| draalin wrote : I'm at work atm but I ussually run at a 1680 x 1050 resolution (I think) Its a 20" new LG LCD monitor.
|
OK, I added a factory o/c gtx 275 to that build I posted on here.
| Why_Me wrote : OK, I added a factory o/c gtx 275 to that build I posted on here. |
nice looks good, i'm going to see if i can find those items on tigerdirect to see what the difference is, btw do you think that the powersupply give enough amps?
| jack64 wrote : Here is one I built and it is a little more than you wanted to spend...but it is a good one, I think.
|
the price isn't that bad, i'm just trying to stay under 1200 before taxes.
Draalin, the build you suggested is actually a step down from the why_me build. The GTS250 is nothing more than a rebranded 9800GTX+, and the GTX275 is far superior. Also, stick with the PSU suggested by jack, Corsair makes some of the best PSU's and it will last you a long time. Additionally, you picked out a triple channel memory kit, when the i-5 only supports dual channel, you will be limited to 4GB or 8GB of RAM with the i-5.
| Transmaniacon wrote : Draalin, the build you suggested is actually a step down from the why_me build. The GTS250 is nothing more than a rebranded 9800GTX+, and the GTX275 is far superior. Also, stick with the PSU suggested by jack, Corsair makes some of the best PSU's and it will last you a long time. Additionally, you picked out a triple channel memory kit, when the i-5 only supports dual channel, you will be limited to 4GB or 8GB of RAM with the i-5. |
do you think that powersupply is enough for everything?
oh ok so i7's support triple and i5's only dual? lol
| draalin wrote : oh ok so i7's support triple and i5's only dual? lol |
That statement isn't true any more starting today. There were two new i7 chips released along with the i5 chip today. All three new chips use the LGA 1156 P55 chipset and only support dual channel RAM.
If you are fine with a single-card solution, then go with the Corsair 650TX, or comperable models by Antec, PC Power & Cooling, or OCZ.
However, for a little bit more, I believe its $20 at the moment, you can get the Corsair 750TX, which will handle SLI or xfire fine. For build longevity, go with the 750TX, its a little bit more now, but will save you a lot should you ever go SLI/xfire.
SO they run ddr-3 in dual channel mode......no wonder I was confused...which doesn't take much! LOL Alright now Who's on first??
| shortstuff_mt wrote : That statement isn't true any more starting today. There were two new i7 chips released along with the i5 chip today. All three new chips use the LGA 1156 P55 chipset and only support dual channel RAM. |
alright so i should go for the new LGA then.
| jack64 wrote : SO they run ddr-3 in dual channel mode......no wonder I was confused...which doesn't take much! LOL |
i'm getting more and more confused lol.
Yes, the new i5 and i7 chips use dual channel DDR3 RAM.
Ok....I understand....I think. DDR-3 is actually DDR which stands for dual data rate which means it can feed the processor on the rise AND the fall of the processor cycle unlike sdr which can only feed the processor on either the rise or the fall of the processor cycle bot sure which one though. and the -3 means it can run in multiples of 3....right?????? but it doesn't have to right??? Alright where my hammer....this square peg ain't fittin in that round hole!!
LGA1366 Socket - Triple Channel DDR3 RAM (i7-920, i7-950, i7-975)
LGA1156 Socket - Dual Channel DDR3 RAM (i5-750, i7-860, i7-870)
| jack64 wrote : and the -3 means it can run in multiples of 3....right?????? |
The "3" doesn't have anything to do with multiples of 3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM
Alright guys I appreicate everyones help. but I think I'm going to have to smash my budget a bit for what I want, since I'm the type of person who rarely likes to upgrade. I ussually just buy a whole new pc once old one is near useless.
From mixxing and matching with what everyone has told me I've come up with this.
I just wanted to know if everything should work fine together and or if some of the stuff isn't worth it i'll change it up a bit.
I'm just trying to avoid upgrading in the next 1-2 years. Hopefully it will last +3 like my last one.
EDIT: I picked the right ram/cpu/motherboard together right?
EDIT2: Or is it kind of dumb to stay with all this dual channel? Even though it would cost a fair amount more to get everything on triple.
Looks good to me....I guess your going to use the stock cooler till more choices are out....not a bad idea, I used the stock one for a month or two till they had some new ones out that worked good with the 1366 socket!
| jack64 wrote : Looks good to me....I guess your going to use the stock cooler till more choices are out....not a bad idea, I used the stock one for a month or two till they had some new ones out that worked good with the 1366 socket! |
Yeah I wasn't sure about the cooler. Since the motherboard is new? (I think?)
Which one on tiger I should get. lol
whats your opinon though on the triple vs dual. Do you think its worth switching it all over to triple? Or would it be way to much lol.
LOL, I just figured out what your CDN$ was....OMG LOL...it never hit me till that last post. God I'm a duffus!!
| jack64 wrote : LOL, I just figured out what your CDN$ was....OMG LOL...it never hit me till that last post. God I'm a duffus!! |
lol, thats why i put it in red + $ haha
Stick with what you've got, it'll work great!! You have DDR-3 dual channel for the I-5 and thats what it calls for!! stay with it.
| draalin wrote : Yeah I wasn't sure about the cooler. Since the motherboard is new? (I think?)
|
You HAVE to use dual channel RAM with any socket LGA1156 Motherboard.
Sorry I caused the confussion.....I should have kept my mouth shut. Sorry again Transmaniacon....After reading the link shart_stuff posted above I now see what it means....besides giving me an icecream headache trying to understand it...it did open my eyes that I am truely an idiot!! LOL
| Transmaniacon wrote : You HAVE to use dual channel RAM with any socket LGA1156 Motherboard. |
ya, i understood that. I ment for example I would switch the motherboard/cpu/ram/ all to things which supported triple if it was actually that much better and worth the money compared to what I have picked out.
Man, I would stick with what ya got goin here....it will SCREAM!!!
oh yeah i had one more question, getting the 8gb of ram is fine with the i5 right? Since I'll be running alot of vm wares once school starts back up. I'll need the memory.
edit: are all of the fans that say "i7" fine to use on a i5?
| draalin wrote : edit: are all of the fans that say "i7" fine to use on a i5? |
NO, LGA 1156 uses a different mounting pattern. You'll have to make sure any cooler you buy says it is LGA 1156 compatible. I haven't done any research on LGA 1156 compatible coolers yet, I'll have to defer to someone who has.
I've looked around and like the 1366 before it....for a while they will be kind of hard to find till they get them out...then READ the reviews on them first and get a good one. I read and read and read....and the TRUE 120 Extreme I got is really a good cooler!!
http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U1 [...] 87&sr=1-11 $66.95 FREE Super Saver Shipping
Noctua NH-U12P SE 2 CPU Cooler for (AM2, AM3, 775, 1366, 1156)- Four Dual Heat-Pipe, 2x 120 mm SSO Bearing Quiet Fan
| draalin wrote : ya, i understood that. I ment for example I would switch the motherboard/cpu/ram/ all to things which supported triple if it was actually that much better and worth the money compared to what I have picked out. |
I would stick with what you have, wait until FrostyTech reviews some LGA1156 CPU Coolers, and then OC that i5, from what I have read thus far, its got great OCing potential.
| draalin wrote : oh yeah i had one more question, getting the 8gb of ram is fine with the i5 right? Since I'll be running alot of vm wares once school starts back up. I'll need the memory.
|
That'll be fine and if you use a 64 but operating system...you can actually use it all, however with a 32 bit you can only access something like 3.6 gigs...I think
| Why_Me wrote : http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U1 [...] 87&sr=1-11 $66.95 FREE Super Saver Shipping
|
nice, you found that pretty quick
thanks
There are 520 identified and unidentified users. To see the list of identified users, Click here.

