So I'm new to the whole 'building your own computer' thing. Ive been reading posts all day about what others have done and this is what I've come up with.
I'm going to be using a 22'' monitor and I have no need for a new keyboard/mouse/speakers. My goal is to create a decent gaming machine. Is there anything else I will need to get with this build, or any changes that need to be made for it to work better? Im open to ideas. The current cost is 1300 for this setup and I'd like to keep it under 1500 if possible.
Message edited by fadetoback on 09-09-2009 at 02:37:39 AM
The build looks good overall, but there are a couple improvements that can be made.
There's no need to go with a GPU that has 2GB of RAM. You can get a 4890 for the same price. In fact, there's a combo for your RAM and a 4890. That would be a much better option.
Not bad But let's look at some combo's and a few changes for that build to save you some $$$ and get you a better vid card and cooling while were at it.
Thank you so much for your replies! I do have yet another question though- In regards to the GPU, I'm not picky about brand so would it be best to go with 4890 ATI or the 260GTX from Nvidia? And would it be much of a benefit to run two instead of one?
Thank you so much for your replies! I do have yet another question though- In regards to the GPU, I'm not picky about brand so would it be best to go with 4890 ATI or the 260GTX from Nvidia? And would it be much of a benefit to run two instead of one?
I lean towards Nvidia myself for the fact they don't seem to have near the amount of driver issues as ATI cards. For every Nvidea card there is an ATI counter part. So...
4890 = gtx 275
4870 = gtx 260
For your resolution I would go with a gtx 275. It's an awesome card. You can check out newegg and ewiz.com for the best deals on them.
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Ok, I've updated the build list to incorporate the changes you have suggested. Ive changed the GPU, HD and added the heatpipe. Now I just have a few more questions.
1. Will I need to purchase any extra cabling/fans/anything to complete this build?
2. If I choose to run 2x 275gtx cards, will that PSU be able to handle it?
3. Ive actually been able to lower the price to about 1100 so I have about 300 bucks of wiggle room now. If this was your machine, what would you do with that extra 300 bucks?
Ok, I've updated the build list to incorporate the changes you have suggested. Ive changed the GPU, HD and added the heatpipe. Now I just have a few more questions.
1. Will I need to purchase any extra cabling/fans/anything to complete this build?
2. If I choose to run 2x 275gtx cards, will that PSU be able to handle it?
3. Ive actually been able to lower the price to about 1100 so I have about 300 bucks of wiggle room now. If this was your machine, what would you do with that extra 300 bucks?
That psu will easily handle dual gtx 275's or 4890's with juice to spare. One gtx 275 with your resolution will eat up any game out there atm. That and one good card for now, then see what comes out here in the next few months with the new DX11 cards that are due out later on. As for extra fans ...I would get a few more 120mm case fans if and when you decide to run dual vid cards, until then I wouldn't bother. If and when you do though look at the Masscool 120mm case fan for $5 at newegg.
Cable wise your good to go.
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the i5 processor work best with a single gpu solution; whereas the 1366 based i7 processor will work with multiple gpus. if you seriously think you are going to buy one gpu now and theres a good chance you'll buy another identical card later, you probably should either upgrade your cpu to a core i7 860 and keep the 1156 motherboard, or go with a different lga1366 motherboard (gigabyte ga-ex58-ud3r maybe) and get the i7 920 cpu... as for a great priced single-core gpu that will allow you to run games at max settings for the next year+, i'd aim at a geforce 285. the G.SKILL Ripjaws ram i'd change, for +$5 you can get the GSKILL Trident 4GB (2x2gb), which is a better class of ram. get two hard drives and run them in RAID0 instead of one, performance will be much better. everything else looks fine; that psu is more than enough no matter what you upgrade.
oh, and if you newegg, add the cpu and then search for a combo with the ram you want and motherboard you want. should save an additional $50. If you sign up with bing (search engine) for their cashbacvk, they'll send you a check for 3% of what you spend at newegg... Might want to check microcenter instead of newegg, some people are reporting lower prices. let us know what you choose.
the i5 processor work best with a single gpu solution; whereas the 1366 based i7 processor will work with multiple gpus. if you seriously think you are going to buy one gpu now and theres a good chance you'll buy another identical card later, you probably should either upgrade your cpu to a core i7 860 and keep the 1156 motherboard, or go with a different lga1366 motherboard (gigabyte ga-ex58-ud3r maybe) and get the i7 920 cpu... as for a great priced single-core gpu that will allow you to run games at max settings for the next year+, i'd aim at a geforce 285. the G.SKILL Ripjaws ram i'd change, for +$5 you can get the GSKILL Trident 4GB (2x2gb), which is a better class of ram. get two hard drives and run them in RAID0 instead of one, performance will be much better. everything else looks fine; that psu is more than enough no matter what you upgrade.
You make sense...but I'm not so hot on the RAID 0 your suggesting. If one HD goes...it all goes. On the udr3...it's a great board, but for cheaper the AsRock Extreme can be had and it's received nothing but good reviews. And for the vid card....that 285 is a bit over priced. You can o/c a 275 or a 4890 and get close to the same marks and for a lot cheaper.
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the problem with not running multiple conventional hard drives in raid0 (or raid5) is that you easily bottleneck your speed. two drives in raid0 doubles your bandwidth over just a single unraided drive. and really, if you are using new drives, and you have enough sense to run a manufacturer's testing software (such as seagate's seatools) as soon as you receive your drive and before using it -- i highly doubt you are going to experience drive failure anytime soon. I test every one of my drives once a year for peace of mind. by the way, if you only have one hard drive, if that goes, you're in the exact same spot as you would be if you had two drives in raid0 and one died.
re: the 285 vs the 275/4890... the point i was trying to make is where a single core card fits best, and where a multi-core card (or multiple vid cards) are more appropriate. [depending on whether you have one monitor or two, the resolution your monitor is at, whether you are aiming for adding a second video card in the future (or a higher resolution monitor), if you want to max all settings in games you play, and how long you want to make your video card choice last before you feel you need to upgrade,... all factor into your choice.]
both the asrock x58 extreme and the gigabyte ga-ex58-ud3r are terrific mainboards. they both get very high marks in reviews. both at newegg are the same price. personally i would choose the ud3r for myself if i was going the 1366 route, but both are excellent choices. the similar 1156 mainboard choices are the asrock p55 deluxe and the gigabyte ud4p (and ud3r). Not sure which one of those three i would pick.
I think you should reconsider raid0. make regular backups if you are fearful of crashing. dual 320gb wd blacks would be nice. think about how big games are,... two (or more) straws in your slurpie would get you an ice headache much faster than one straw. ...or something like that...