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September 9, 2009 3:56:59 AM

I am building a computer for gaming and general multimedia etc. Here is what I am looking at and need some opinions on anything I could possible provision.

Cooler Master HAF 922 or 932? was really thinking 922 $79 after rebate $119 for 932 after rebate.(is Antec really worth it?)
Intel i7 920 (overclock 3.3 maybe?)
6gb ram still trying to figure out saw a good deal on Corsair 6gb (3x2gb) XMZ 1666 and 8-8-8-24 or OCZ Platinum 7-7-7-24(open to suggestions)
Asus P6T v2 Deluxe or Rampage II Extreme
1 BFG GTX 285 OC but planning on 2xGTX285 in very near future depending on budget etc(was also considering 1 GTX 295)
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7,200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Acer - 23" Widescreen Flat-Panel LCD Monitor - Black Model H233H

Ok so im pretty sure thats most of the parts there so I need some advice. I am planning on playing a variety of games but mainly mmorpg's such as aion, wow, and upcoming games like final fantasy xiv. Also some dvd ripping/burning and video editiing. I will of course do other things but those are the basics. I am open to any suggestions on all parts. I can afford to spend a few more dollars on parts if it means its very much worth it just dont want to waste my money but to the same token dont want to regret my big purchase to save a few dollars either. Thanks for all opinions.
September 9, 2009 4:00:18 AM

Oh almost forgot is a Corsair Memory TX750W 750 Watt Power Supply going to be sufficent for this machine or not? any recommendations?
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2009 4:38:21 AM

^ The HAF 922 has enough room for accommodating 2 graphics cards in SLI...So it depends more on your performance...The 932 is huge...So if you are OK with big cases, then get the 932 else even the 922 would offer very good room for your components...As for Antec, they are good but if you like the HAF, then get this over the Ante...

As for the mobo, I would suggest the Deluxe V2... It has more than enough options even for a higher overclock...And for the overclock that you are planning, I wouldn't suggest the Extreme as it would be wasting money on what you wont utilize to the full extent...
And you might want to check the ASUS P6TD Deluxe as it is supposedly a revision of the V2

RAM - If you are going to overclock, then get the OCZ Platinum...
But I would suggest this RAM...A high quality RAM with good timings...
mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or
mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics card - I wouldn't suggest the GTX 285...Instead get the GTX 275 for ~$100 less and it would offer very similar performance to the GTX 285 for resolutions upto 1920X1200...And anyways newer cards from both ATI and Nvidia will be available by the year end...So it would be better to change to them rather than going with a overpriced card now...

And maybe with the money saved, I would invest in a 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD for OS and apps, that would offer overall more performance than spending in a costly mobo and graphics card...

Rest are good...
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September 9, 2009 4:47:24 AM

Thanks for your advice. I have found the GTX 285's for 269.99 a piece. Is there a difference between 285 OC and OCX? Also I was thinking the HAF922 just because of the size and what not. Just want to make sure it wont be a issue for my plans.
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2009 4:54:34 AM

^ And how much is the GTX 275 then...And where did you find a GTX 285 for that price...
The difference between the OC and OCX would be difference in the clock speed...
It would mean - OC - Overclock OCX - Overclock extreme...
But for your monitor resolution, it wont matter much...
September 9, 2009 4:57:54 AM

GTX 275 is $200 Micro Center offers that price, should I go for extreme if its the same price? Any other monitors that you would recommend?
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2009 5:05:34 AM

^ Could you give the brands of the cards and their corresponding prices as even that matters...

And that HAF 922 is a very good choice...
a b 4 Gaming
September 9, 2009 5:29:23 AM

+1 for the CM 922 HAF and gtx 275.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-sli,229... <--- dual gtx 275's > gtx 295

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $36.99
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail
Free Scythe fan w/ purchase, while supplies last

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/landing/haf922/ <--- Cooler Master HAF 922
a c 230 4 Gaming
September 11, 2009 10:47:52 PM

projectsherv said:
I am building a computer for gaming and general multimedia etc. Here is what I am looking at and need some opinions on anything I could possible provision.

Cooler Master HAF 922 or 932? was really thinking 922 $79 after rebate $119 for 932 after rebate.(is Antec really worth it?)
Intel i7 920 (overclock 3.3 maybe?)
6gb ram still trying to figure out saw a good deal on Corsair 6gb (3x2gb) XMZ 1666 and 8-8-8-24 or OCZ Platinum 7-7-7-24(open to suggestions)
Asus P6T v2 Deluxe or Rampage II Extreme
1 BFG GTX 285 OC but planning on 2xGTX285 in very near future depending on budget etc(was also considering 1 GTX 295)
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7,200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Acer - 23" Widescreen Flat-Panel LCD Monitor - Black Model H233H


IMO, yes the Antec's are worth it ....great cases w/ great tech support .... ya need a wire, ya front ports break, they send you new ones, no charge. The Antec 850 provides super clean power and can handle a GTX 295, tho not SLI's 285's.

There are Mushkin sets with lower timings but the Corsairs are great.

I opted for the Rampage Extreme.

My personal preference here, but as with Cases and PSU's, I always like to get vid card and MoBo from same manufacturer. Greatly simplified procedure when you have a problem and ya can't find yaself with tech support guys from both places blaming the other manufacturer.

IMO, you want the resolution you want in the smallest package you can get. That means a 1920 x 1200/1080 monitor looks better in a 22" package than in a 23 or 24". This is because the pixels are closer together and therefore image will appear sharper as it's harder to see individual pixels. Same reason a photo printed on 1200 x 1200 dpi printer looks better than one at 600 x 600. If you agree....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It also has a better review rating on new egg compared with the one you selected (5 to 4) has better viewing angles and better pixel pitch


September 12, 2009 3:57:06 AM

Ok so I have decided I maybe overclocking to 3.8, so is this haf 922 still going to be sufficent? I have seen several different gtx 275 cards why do the prices vary so much and is it worth getting one OC'd ??

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... - $209.99 EVGA GTX 275 896mb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $239.99
EVGA GTX 275 Super Clock Edition 896mb

There are also tons of other brands, which is the best brand? Micro center has the GTX 285 OCX's for $269.99 each. Best buy also has the BFG GTX 285 OC for 269.99.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

It has been recommened on here to me to switch to 22" and I had my heart set on 23" will I regret it if I do?.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9183224&t...

Thanks for all help and advice.
a c 230 4 Gaming
September 12, 2009 4:29:36 AM

Well if ya still buying an Asus MoBo, all things being equal, there is an advantage to buying an Asus vid card if only when ya call tech support, they can't "blame the other guy".

As for the monitor, I suggest that you go down to a store and see for yaself. Comparing the 23" and the 21.5", all things being equal (which they never are :)  :

-Text will be smaller on the 21.5
-Images will be sharper on the 21.5"

Ever take a thumbnail image and low it up and image starts to loose sharpness ? .....that's essentially what "bigness" does. SO as you increase monitor size, you must increase resolution accordingly.

I sit close to the screen 14-18" and on larger monitors, that is "those too big for their reolution", I can see the spaces between pixles. I'm typing now on a 17" 1920 x 1200 screen....it's flawless and "sharp as a tack" as the saying goes. With a pixel density of 132.9 pixels per inch you can't see any spaces between pixels with ya eyeball an inch from the screen. Anything below 100 or so I find too "grainy". Take a peek at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_pitch

September 12, 2009 4:34:16 AM

^ For the images and TEXT problems If he's using Vista he can increase the DPI than the default 96.
a c 230 4 Gaming
September 12, 2009 5:12:39 PM

psycho sykes said:
^ For the images and TEXT problems If he's using Vista he can increase the DPI than the default 96.


But not more than the physical limitations of the monitor. A 23" tops out at 98 pixels per inch, that's a physical characteristic of the screen. Windows can't physically create more pixels and insert them into a panel. At the other end of the spectrum a 17" has 133 pixels per inch.
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