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stole38   09-29-2009 at 12:42:19 AM

Is Ati's GPU 4850 bottlenecking the AMD 4200+ X2 Processor it runs at 2.20 GHz if overclock is the answer please instruct me how to ...

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Bronze Graphics badge hunter315   09-29-2009 at 12:46:35 AM
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its not possible to arbitrarily know, the easiest way to check is pick a game that has a benchmark utility built in, run it, then lower the settings dramatically and run it again, if the FPS doesnt increase you have a CPU bottleneck.

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Gulli   09-29-2009 at 12:49:36 AM
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hunter315 wrote :

its not possible to arbitrarily know, the easiest way to check is pick a game that has a benchmark utility built in, run it, then lower the settings dramatically and run it again, if the FPS doesnt increase you have a CPU bottleneck.



I agree, though my gut feeling says yes, there is a CPU bottleneck and overclocking that CPU (try a modest 10%) would probably help.

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strangestranger   09-29-2009 at 12:52:21 AM
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Hunter has the right idea.

Although substitute cpu limitation rather than bottleneck would be my preference unless choppy gameplay is experienced.

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stole38   09-29-2009 at 01:17:31 AM
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Gulli wrote :

I agree, though my gut feeling says yes, there is a CPU bottleneck and overclocking that CPU (try a modest 10%) would probably help.


Ok thanks for the instructions how to see if i have bottlenect but how do i overclock please tell me ...

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strangestranger   09-29-2009 at 01:23:10 AM
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So, did you see any restriction in FPS?

What games and resolution are you trying to play at?

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stole38   09-29-2009 at 03:04:55 PM
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No i havent been testing resently but i will ofcourse im playing on 1440 - 900 Ressolution and mostly playing WoW its very laggy with 20-30 FPS....i hate it ..

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strangestranger   09-29-2009 at 03:47:02 PM
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WoW could be lots of things. I fail to see why you responded asking for overclocking instructions when it has been suggested to you first how to check if you would benefit from it.

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Gulli   09-29-2009 at 06:43:15 PM
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strangestranger wrote :

WoW could be lots of things. I fail to see why you responded asking for overclocking instructions when it has been suggested to you first how to check if you would benefit from it.



Yes, check that first, because although I believe there is a bottleneck, it should not really be apparent in a "light" game such as WoW, so I want to ask you how much memory you have.

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stole38   09-30-2009 at 03:05:07 PM
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Guys i havent bought the card yet i wanned to ask if there is any bottlenecking... with my type of processor ... Btw im using 3Gb of memory

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Gulli   09-30-2009 at 03:29:39 PM
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stole38 wrote :

Guys i havent bought the card yet i wanned to ask if there is any bottlenecking... with my type of processor ... Btw im using 3Gb of memory



Then just buy the card, it'll run WoW flawlessly, and if you encounter any stuttering in heavier games you can always overclock the CPU.

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stole38   10-01-2009 at 04:58:22 AM
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Man i dont know how to overclock it please instruct me

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Gulli   10-02-2009 at 05:24:58 PM
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stole38 wrote :

Man i dont know how to overclock it please instruct me

 

There's a guide on Tom's Hardware, there's also this thing called Google, learn how to raise the FSB and you're there, it's a lot of stuff to explain.


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Bronze Graphics badge shadow187   10-02-2009 at 05:28:21 PM
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His mobo might not allow and, not to mention that processor is extremely old. I run the same except a 2ghz version.

If you want to be play WoW nicely, get a 4670. Lighter, cheaper, and you shouldn't go through any 'necking.

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Subversion   10-03-2009 at 12:44:18 AM
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that chip is giving such horrible bottleneck issues with the 4890 i just installed :(

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Gulli   10-03-2009 at 03:30:27 AM
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Subversion wrote :

that chip is giving such horrible bottleneck issues with the 4890 i just installed :(



Maybe with Crysis or Supreme Commander, but you'll be fine with WoW, wouldn't you say?

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strangestranger   10-03-2009 at 12:15:12 PM
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That is not the OP, that is someone hijacking his thread.

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pauldh   10-03-2009 at 04:22:33 PM
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There's no doubt the X2 4200+ will limit the HD 4850 in many games, at least up until a resolution where the HD 4850 itself stuggles to deliver. See this old Tom's article: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 54-12.html

But you are talking WOW only? Not my game, but I guess among other things your 2.2GHz AMD could be causing lowered minimum fps. This is a more powerful C2D: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/?me [...] _id=772111

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