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September 12, 2009 5:06:12 AM

I am about to build my first system, and the only part i have left to pick is the monitors. i want to get 2 of the same, somewhere in the range of 21-23 inches. i'd like to spend no more than 350ish on them. i'd like the monitor to have hdmi input and i think a glossy screen would bother me because of the glare, so i'd rather go for an anti glare screen. i'd like the resolution to be at least 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. my gpu will be the radeon 4870 1gb.

some of the ones i was looking at were

ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR) Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236059

Acer V233Hbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009196

Acer X233Hbid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 (ACM) - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009163

Acer X233Hbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 (ACM) - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009176

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824236052

Acer P235Hbmid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 50000:1(ACM) Built-in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009179

Acer H233Hbmid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 (ACM) Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009162

any thoughts?

thanks
September 12, 2009 7:19:55 AM

I'd go with the ASUS.
September 12, 2009 7:38:18 AM

The higher contrast ratio would be better, although I doubt there's much difference between 50000:1 and 40000:1.

2ms LCDs would have a higher refresh rate, and you might be able to tell the difference in an intense FPS game, but I don't think they will show much difference for anything else. (I think the regular LCDs out there could handle 60 fps, so if your GPU doesn't give you much frame rate above 60, this would not matter too much as well...)

Personally I don't really like the built in speaker on my monitor. I'd recommend headphone or just buy a pair of speakers.

Anyway, both Acer and ASUS makes decent product, while ASUS is more popular in the US and Acer more in Europe. By the way, you need to fix your links...
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September 12, 2009 9:24:51 AM

ok first dont get 1 with built in speakers
2 they last for 5-10 years so splash out a little more here
i got myself a 24"dell 1900x1200 a year or 2 ago i dont know what the price of 1 is now but it was well worth it. you dont have to upgrade them for a long time so give it heaps
a b C Monitor
September 12, 2009 9:10:39 PM

HDMI:
This should NOT be a concern. HDMI input on monitors is only needed if the monitor has built-in speakers. There is not a single set of monitor speakers that I'd even consider using. For 2.0, I'd get the M-Audio AV-30 or AV-40 2.0. Logitech Z-2300 2.1 are excellent but the upper budget for many.

Resolution?
I'd go with 1920x1080. Most monitors are going to this resolution as it's the same as an HDTV's. You won't find monitors above this resolution for what you want.

Contrast Ratio?
TCR (True not Dynamic) of 1000:1 if possible.

Size?
I have a 19" CRT. When I did the math, I discovered it is the same height as a 22" monitor. Because most web pages and some programs don't really use the side part of 16:9 ratio monitors yet I'd be wanting a 24" (16:9) for my next monitor.

I think my next setup will be a 24" main monitor with a second smaller one place VERTICALLY for reading help files etc.

You should go to www.ncix.com

Here's an example of a reasonably good monitor.
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=38254&promoid=1026&...

Summary:
1) 1920x1080
2) CR 1000:1 (ignore Dynamic CR)
3) do NOT get a monitor with speakers
4) DVI-D HDCP (I assume all have HDCP but confirm this. For BluRay)
5) 22" or higher
6) read reviews and comments


a b C Monitor
September 12, 2009 9:19:29 PM

A word on DPI scaling:

With higher resolutions come scaling issues. Should you LOWER your resolution to see text fit?

The answer after much fiddling and reading is to use the HIGHEST (native) resolution and turn up the DPI scaling. Do NOT use DPI scaling if your resolution isn't at it's maximum resolution.

Example:
I have a 19" CRT @ 1600:1200. This is comparable to any LCD @ 1920x1080. I am using Windows 7 RC and DPI scaling is at 150%. What a difference! Now my Internet browsers can display full width.

Note:
Some programs don't work well with DPI scaling. You need to right-click the EXE for it and go to Properties and disable DPI scaling. I did this for CDisplay. It also works on Web browsers. Try both ways to see what's best.
September 13, 2009 7:22:40 PM

well the reason i wanted hdmi is because i wanted to run an hdmi wire from my cable box to the monitor to watch hdtv on it and only use the monitor speakers for that. my computer's speakers would be logitech x-540's. The only other way i can see myslf watching my tv on my comptuer would be getting a tv-tuner, since i don't know how i'd get the sound out of the cable box to my speakers. does anyone know any other ways i can set that up? i'd rather not get a tv tuner if i don't need to

also, i stil can't tell which of asus's monitors have glossy screens. i know the acer ones are glossy if they have that crystalbrite thing, right? but idk how to tell which asus monitors have it, and i googled for a while, but couldn't find anything

thans
September 13, 2009 8:05:12 PM

and does anyone know what hbmid means in the title of an acer monitor? it seems like each one represents a feature because i also see hdmd and hbd in other places, but i dont know which one each represents.
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