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September 14, 2009 3:44:13 AM

Hi,
I need a pd desktop around 600-900 bucks which is able to handle entry level/old games (old car simulators) but mostly which is able to output any video I have on my hd to my HDTV via hdmi. Thus I am looking for a video card with at least 1) DVI for connecting the monitor and 2) HDMI with audio support for sending the video+audio to my hdtv

I read that ge force need to have the audio hooked up via spdif with the mobo or audio card in order to have audio over hdmi output. that's why I was thinking to move more to a radeon system which seems to handle better the problem. I saw that 4350 or 4550 have good gaming entry level with a good hdmi support, up to 1080p.

at the moment, after reading all the possible combination I found two system which satisfy my needs, but I am not sure if they would really work and if there is any better possibility:

a) pc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... with monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this system sounds pretty good and it would be perfect if it had a firewire support...(needed to edit some video). is there any possibility to have a front panel multi card reader/usb/firewire to connect to the pc (also with pci connection to the mobo if the mobo does not support directly the connections)



b) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this also look a pretty nice system but I am not sure if the g210 worked for streaming audio + video over hdmi. why gateway is not more specific about this point and doen't say if the system has the audio connection via spdif.



Any helps, comment or advice on above or other system would be really appreciated!

Thanks

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September 14, 2009 12:48:43 PM

Are you open to the possibility of building your own system?? If so you can build a decent system yourself. The GPU's in those builds aren't what I'd call "Gaming" GPU's. Yes they will run better than onboard GPU's, but you would want something better, if you want to have a good gaming experience.

Here is what I'd consider:
~$187 - $10 MIRc = $177!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.259850

$100 shipped!! Much better "Gaming" GPU than either of the ones listed above!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824

$70 shipped!! One of the better HD's out there for the $!!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

$80 shipped!! Should be plenty for what you need for now!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

$90 shipped!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.245592

$31 shipped!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140041

$150 shipped!! Should be plenty for what you need!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009175

$110 shipped! It's what you should get until Windows 7 comes out. This comes with a free upgrade to Windows 7!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677

Total = $818 - $10 MIRc = $808!! Pretty close to your budget!!

It's up to you on what you want to do, but the build above is much better than the ones that you listed.

Thoughts:
* The AMD build you selected has a pretty crappy GPU and I'm not sure how good the PSU is in it either.
* The Intel build has a nice CPU, but the GPU is lacking too, plus it's more expensive.
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September 14, 2009 1:38:01 PM

lunyone your links doesn't seem to work.

Here's my suggestion:

Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz
+
SAPPHIRE 100258-1GHDMI Radeon HD 4850 1GB
Combo Price: $224.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L LGA 775
+
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
Combo Price: $126.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec Basiq BP430 430W Continuous Power
+
Antec VSK-2000 Black ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Combo Price: $74.94

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM
+
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
Combo Price: $149.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA
$28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = $605.87

You get a faster Intel processor, much better graphics card that is actually suitable for gaming (with 1GB of memory for higher resolutions), and a more reliable power supply compared to that Cyberpower PC.

That Gateway PC is not a good deal.
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September 14, 2009 2:07:06 PM

Thank you guys, I didn't consider to build one myself to avoid the potential problems of drivers and incompatibility but after all should be fun. I will go to this way.

I like more the intel idea: if I want to move to a faster cpu, shouldn't I leave amd and prefer intel??

Also I would like to point out something more specific. the gaming will be more the 30% of my activity with this pc, but mostly I will be working on it and especially 50% I will be playing content on my hdtv, so I need a system which is in between gaming and media center. Do you guys know if the above gpu has AUDIO OVER HDMI??? this seems to be a crucial problem because a lot of people out there connect the pc to the tv and then they don't have audio, or the video is crappy...

that was my first concern when I started considering this system...
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September 14, 2009 2:37:34 PM

Yes, Intel has faster processors but AMD is good value for money.

Are you talking about the Sapphire 4850 i suggested? If that's the case, it says "HDMI w/ both video and audio output", so I'm guessing that's what your after?

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September 14, 2009 3:33:53 PM

Yes, since you both guys were selecting a 4850 (just with different ram) I am thinking to get this one (the one with 1gb actually)
I just wanted to make sure that I am not so focused on gaming but probably more in a media center system which doesn't mind some games... Also I am fan of old simulator car games which requires less powerful machines.

I am not getting the vista license. I have a xp pro 64 bit license and I am planning to use this one, since I hate vista (don't know how w7 will be though...) Anyway I am thinking to use that money to get other 2 banks of the same ram.
Do you know any compatibility issue about xp pro 64 and the above hardware.

Also, I made some system in the past, but I am not really an assembler. Should this require some special tools like thermoconductive paste or special cables? or all the necessary is inside cpu and motherboard boxes?

thanks
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September 14, 2009 4:59:15 PM

Alright, if you insist on a less powerful graphics card, then get this ATI 4650 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... Sweet deal for only $45 after rebates. It will still play "old simulator car games" with ease.

I have Windows 7 RC and based on my experience I like it better than XP. You can pre-order a retail copy for an absolute bargain right now. Retail copies can be installed to another computer, as long as you uninstall it first from the previous computer of course, so when you need to build a new one in the future you won't have to buy an OS.

You won't need more than 4GB so don't bother getting more.

All cables you will need should come with the parts and thermal paste will already be pre-applied.
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September 14, 2009 5:28:29 PM

How about....
CPU: i5 750 -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $209.99
Mobo: ASUS P7P55D EVO -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $189.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $94.99
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $49.99
Wait for HD5770 for like $199.99, See my last post in http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/271118-31-quality-gam...
Or get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $109.99 -- SAPPHIRE 100277HDMI Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 ("Arctic Cooling" Cooling design)
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $99.99

HSF: Thermaltake SpinQ Performance Series cooler with ultra-lightweight aluminum and six heatpipes CL-P0466 CPU Cooler -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $59.98
Or COOLER MASTER Intel Core i5 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU cooler -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $29.99
CD/DVD Drive: SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -- $30.99
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Total: $805 (Without MIRs and DVD Drive, With the Thermaltake SpinQ HSF).

Hope helped you some.

Medo
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September 14, 2009 5:48:33 PM
September 14, 2009 6:09:19 PM

Why not i5 ?!!!?!!!
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September 14, 2009 6:26:54 PM

Because $800 is not enough for an I5 rig + OS + monitor + peripherals :p 

You have 2 sets of RAM listed. Get rid of the other one.

You also forgot the OS.

Everything else is fine.
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September 14, 2009 6:40:48 PM

Um.. I'll update with another configuration and try to make it i5 with all you said :p  (I5 rig + OS + monitor + peripherals ;)  )

Medo
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September 14, 2009 6:44:18 PM

I'd like to see you try :kaola: 
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September 14, 2009 6:47:23 PM

The honor of the try is enough :p  !!
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September 14, 2009 6:50:39 PM

I like you :D 
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September 14, 2009 6:51:47 PM

Hey Guys,

thanks for your really great advices.
just two quick notes:

I put an extra ram of the same type because I want to have 8gigs and 4 rams are in the combo. Do you really think they wouldn't be used in a system which deals with video and graphycs???

I wouldn't need the OS. I have a retail license of xp pro x64 never used and I was planning to use it for this system (btw I hate vista)
do you have the link for the retail copy of windows7. I can think about it...

I am looking forward to see the other configuration with i5. I can stay around 800 bucks or just a little more.

Thanks :) 
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September 14, 2009 6:53:53 PM

^^ Same boat :D 
^ So that's $200 off the build, Stay tuned ;) 

Medo
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September 14, 2009 6:55:51 PM

Seriously man, you won't need 8 gigs for those uses. Stick with 4.

As for the I5 build for under $800, psycho is still "trying" to put together one. God knows how long it'll take, or if he might succeed at all :lol: 
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September 14, 2009 7:03:57 PM

Ok, I will follow your advice about the ram. Let's see how looks like the i5 config.

btw I liked your first idea of the 4850 with 1g of ram. I can get that.

can you give me the link for the retail windows7?
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September 14, 2009 7:07:52 PM

It's not out for retail yet.
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September 14, 2009 7:30:40 PM

I like the i5 config.

Let's stick into that, with 4gigs and the radeon 4850

so what would be your final proposal??? I will be waiting to finalize the order

In order to get windows7, should I spend now 100 bucks for a crappy vista?? ok, let's put also that one

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September 14, 2009 7:37:20 PM

Do you mean the build i posted? I was just about to finish a sub $900 i5 build! :p  ..

Medo
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September 14, 2009 7:40:45 PM

I am ok to stay below 900...

just give me your optimal configuration with i5, radeon 4850, 4 gigs.
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September 14, 2009 7:43:36 PM

I Will :D 

Do you need a Case and/or Speaker system??
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September 14, 2009 7:47:10 PM

psycho sykes said:
I Will :D 

Do you need a Case and/or Speaker system??


I do need a case and power supply (like the antec combo or what is better...) if there is something with front panel ports, that would be nice but not essential.

I have the speaker system instead.

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September 14, 2009 8:58:44 PM

#917
Monitor: Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" - $170
Processor: Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz - $210
Main-Board: ASUS P7P55D LE LGA 1156 Intel P55 - $140
Key-Board: Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2 - $22
RAM: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - $73
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM - $50
DVD Drive: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA CD/DVD Burner - $29
GPU: Take your pick :D 
Case/PSU: Cooler Master PSU+Case *Not Recommended! So better be....
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC - $70
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX - $74

--------------
Total: $938 Without MIRs & Savings / $888 With $20 MIR and $180 i5 MicroCenter.

Also You might want to consider these.. - Monitor and - Key-Board.

Alt-Keyboard: 1 , 2 , 3 or 4
Alt-Monitor: 1, 2, 3 or 4

Hope I helped you some :) 

@"build" I Make my own luck ;) 


Medo
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September 14, 2009 9:16:24 PM

Hats off to you sir :D 

Still the challenge was under $800 at first, nice try though :kaola: 
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September 14, 2009 10:11:40 PM

Psycho and Build, thank you so much for your professional help. I am not an assembler, I did something in the past but I like the ideas and advised you proposed me.

I would say that the proposal of Psycho with i5 is really tempting BUT after counting what I should put inside, I am going over 1000 which is too much for my budget (although we all agree I guess in the quality of that system).

On the other hand, Build was able to exploit more combo deal and give a system which is not end user gaming but more in between with some gaming and more media center oriented. Also I considered to buy a windows7 upgrade license, although I consider a real shame spending 100 bucks for vista, the crappiest system microsoft ever released.

Saying that, this is what I am thinking:

monitor (I like acer 1080p, cables...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

keyboard (thanks Psycho...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cd (I like the combo remote deal)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

case (Psycho option is too expensive....)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

hd (I hate spend 100 bucks for this *** of vista, but... maybe w7...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

mobo (I liked a lot asus, but I think it's too expensive for me the i5)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

video + processor (I love this video card... )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


well the total is... Grand Total: $846.32
with shipping. is there any tax????

thanks a lot guys.
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September 14, 2009 10:17:14 PM

I Can get you some combo deals and bring the price down to like $820, IF you want! :p 

Medo
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September 14, 2009 10:19:25 PM

psycho sykes said:
I Can get you some combo deals and bring the price down to like $820, IF you want! :p 

Medo



I changed the above configuration and had your i5, mobo asus, memory cruciar, keeping the sapphyre 4850 and the price is

Grand Total: $1,041.52

really too much for me :( 

but if you could work on the combo deal to stay lower...
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September 14, 2009 10:20:20 PM

highkftj said:
Psycho and Build, thank you so much for your professional help. I am not an assembler, I did something in the past but I like the ideas and advised you proposed me. .........
.......... I would say that the proposal of Psycho with i5 is really tempting BUT after counting what I should put inside, I am going over 1000 which is too much for my budget (although we all agree I guess in the quality of that system).


What??
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September 14, 2009 10:22:55 PM

highkftj said:
I changed the above configuration and had your i5, mobo asus, memory cruciar, keeping the sapphyre 4850 and the price is

Grand Total: $1,041.52

really too much for me :( 

but if you could work on the combo deal to stay lower...


How is that?!!
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September 14, 2009 10:23:07 PM

psycho sykes said:
What??



the thing is there are a lot of peripherals I have to include (keyboard, mouse, remote, vista license) so that's why the price arrived to 1040 bucks
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September 14, 2009 10:24:41 PM

psycho sykes said:
How is that?!!



Product Description Savings Total Price
select item 1 quantity of item 1


Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5

Acer H213H bmid Black 21.5" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen 16:9 LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824009157
Return Policy: Monitor Replacement Only Return Policy

-$30.00 Instant


$199.99
$169.99

select item 2 quantity of item 2


SAPPHIRE 100258-1GHDMI Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

SAPPHIRE 100258-1GHDMI Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814102837
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy

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Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan

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* 1 year: $16.99
* 2 year: $25.99



$124.99

select item 3 quantity of item 3


Microsoft Digital Media Pro BX1-00005 2-Tone USB or PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard

Microsoft Digital Media Pro BX1-00005 2-Tone USB or PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16823109137
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

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Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan

The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info23-109-137.0.18)

* 1 year: $6.99
* 2 year: $11.99

-$5.00 Instant


$23.99
$18.99

select item 4 quantity of item 4


Microsoft B75-00092 Silver/Black 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB or PS/2 Optical IntelliMouse Explorer 4.0

Microsoft B75-00092 Silver/Black 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB or PS/2 Optical IntelliMouse Explorer 4.0 - OEM
Item #: N82E16826105161
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Protect Your Investment (expand for options26-105-161|hide options26-105-161)

Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty Plan

The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info26-105-161.0.18)

* 1 year: $6.99
* 2 year: $11.99

-$5.00 Instant


$21.99
$16.99

select item 5 quantity of item 5


Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1067

Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1067 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820148150
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy



$72.99

select item 6 quantity of item 6


ASUS P7P55D LE LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

ASUS P7P55D LE LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131410
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

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The product will be replaced and shipped directly to you at no charge(more info13-131-410.0.18)

* 1 year: $16.99
* 2 year: $25.99



$134.99

select item 7 quantity of item 7


Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750

Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115215
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy



$206.99

select item 8 quantity of item 8

Antec Basiq BP430 430W Continuous Power ATX12V Version 2.2 Active PFC Power Supply
Antec VSK-2000 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

*

Antec Basiq BP430 430W Continuous Power ATX12V Version 2.2 Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371023
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

*

Antec VSK-2000 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129069
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$20.00 Instant
-$15.00 Combo


$109.94
$74.94

select item 9 quantity of item 9

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5

*

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116677
Return Policy: Software Return Policy

*

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822152181
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

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-$10.00 Combo


$164.98
$149.98

select item 10 quantity of item 10

Anyware GP-IR01BK Windows Vista Infrared MCE Black Remote Control
LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04

*

Anyware GP-IR01BK Windows Vista Infrared MCE Black Remote Control
Item #: N82E16880121003
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*

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106289
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

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o 2 year: $11.99

-$6.00 Instant
-$5.00 Combo


$58.98
$47.98

Subtotal: $1,018.83
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September 14, 2009 10:26:25 PM

My Build reaches $900 Including Keyboard, Monitor and Mouse.
You Didn't say you're going to get a Vista License (1st Post).

I'll see what i can do about the combo deals.

Medo
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September 14, 2009 10:31:06 PM

psycho sykes said:
My Build reaches $900 Including Keyboard, Monitor and Mouse.
You Didn't say you're going to get a Vista License (1st Post).

I'll see what i can do about the combo deals.

Medo



Yes, you are right I was thinking to avoid to buy a license because of my win xp pro 64 retail unused... but Build is right about the w7 system...
anyway if we can save some money elsewhere I may consider i5 (I know your system is far better as in term of performances)
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September 14, 2009 10:37:57 PM

I say disregard the Win7 for now and get it let's say 1M after release.
I know about the Vista being the cheapest way for W7 but believe me if you use Win Vista you're unlikely to want to use the computer again! :p 

I'll update in couple of minutes, I'm uploading the photos now.
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September 14, 2009 10:41:34 PM

psycho sykes said:
I say disregard the Win7 for now and get it let's say 1M after release.
I know about the Vista being the cheapest way for W7 but believe me if you use Win Vista you're unlikely to want to use the computer again! :p 

I'll update in couple of minutes, I'm uploading the photos now.



I agree with you, vista is the shittest system ever! was better windows 95 lol
so let's skip vista for now: I will use my powerful win xp pro x64 and I will get w7 let's say next year, maybe with some upgrade to the system as blu ray reader, memory...

thanks for your guidance!
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September 14, 2009 11:04:46 PM

So what's your final build? Include links if it's not too much of a bother :) 
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September 14, 2009 11:11:12 PM




+$73 RAM :D 
Sub-Total: $874.91 $974 .
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And here are some nice deals: *Click the smiles for links ;) 

1. RAM + Infrared Remote :p 
2. Better Main-Board + i5 750 for $4 more! :(  :D 
3. $10 MIR :ouch: 
4. $20 MIR :sarcastic: 
5. .... "Build" ?!!

Medo
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September 14, 2009 11:12:42 PM

^^ Why did you change your Avatar??
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September 14, 2009 11:14:52 PM
September 14, 2009 11:15:57 PM

I didn't change it, I didn't have one at all earlier :lol: .

You like it? :D 

psycho's config is above yours btw.
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September 14, 2009 11:24:53 PM

^ Blurry :lol: 
Nice find :D 
It's not my taste though, I prefer DARK Things :sol: 

Medo
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September 14, 2009 11:46:00 PM

So we have basically two systems

1) Psycho version, 950$

2) Build version without OS, 750$ (edited by me with some modifications)

hd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cd+remote
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

case+supplier
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

cpu+gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Grand Total: $765.54 with shipping

well, this is a pretty good computer anyway, isn't it???
I was struggling with a cyber.. of 700 and gateway of 850 which were both crap with respect this one...

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September 14, 2009 11:50:53 PM

psycho sykes said:

It's not my taste though, I prefer DARK Things :sol: 

:D 

Back on topic, I tweaked your build a bit.

Intel Core i5 750
+
GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2
Combo Price: $301.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 CL8
$79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB
$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With everything else the same, total comes to $885.84.

I swapped the motherboard for a cheaper one and put in a much faster RAM for $7 more.

If you can stretch your budget a bit more, then get this case + PSU combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite.... Better case and larger PSU just to be on the safe side.
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September 14, 2009 11:52:54 PM

^^ My build would come to $885 with MIRs and MicroCenter i5 .
You said you want upgradability, If you do want to stick with Intel then the i5 is the way to go other than that then it's AMD.
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September 14, 2009 11:55:03 PM

Yeah agreed, if you can afford it, I5 is the way to go.
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September 15, 2009 12:00:33 AM

BTW my previous post was written before yours but posted after :p  !!
I Mean it's the same price but with better Main-Board and RAM (it's 1066MHz and Cas7)
Yours is 1333MHz and Cas8!

Medo
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