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[Solved] 50% framerate drop after reinstalling GPU

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Hi folks

I just bought a new case (CM ACTS 840) today and took my old rig apart to stuff it all in there nicely. Everything booted up fine and dandy. However when i fired up some games (WoW, Eq2) i noticed a 50% framerate hit in both.

I'm running a E8400 stock, 4870 512MB, MSI p-45 Platinum, 8GB of ram.

Ive been running both the above mentioned games at 1900 x 1080 for a while now and I typically see 40 -50 fps in EQ2 at high quality and 60fps in WoW on ultra settings.

Clearly something got buggered up in the transition to the new case, but I don't even know where to look. Mainly on account that by all other indicators (device manager, catalyst control centre) everything is working fine. I've even updated to the newest version of catalyst.

Suggestions?

^ Make sure you have the card in the correct socket. Your board seems to have 2x PCIe slots.
Assuming this is your board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130179
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Did you reconnect the power cable to the video card? That's just my first thought.

Reply to Macelo

Sure did. Card has 2 6 pin connectors. Further as the board has no onboard graphics i dont think I would even get the fps im getting in these games if it wasnt turned on.

Reply to boomer2point0

The only thing I can think of is not enough power is going to the card. Reseating your card, repositioning your cables, or anything else that does with giving power to the card might have to be checked.

Reply to skolpo

I'm going to check this again. I'm curious as to why power would be suspect. If the card is running does that not mean it has enough power? To put it another way, can it run on partial power?

Reply to boomer2point0

Yes, it can run on partial power. If only one 6-pin connector is correctly connected, the GPU will work, but it will run significantly slower (more than 50% slower in most cases).

Reply to skolpo

It's possible it to run partial power. Many cards will power down instead of shutting down the system if it doesn't get enough power.

Reply to Macelo

I just reset the card and checked the 6pin connectors. Nothing.

Even tried changing PCIE slots (both are supposed to be x16) still getting subpar performance.

Im using a Ultra 750 watt power supply so I can't believe that one card doesnt have enough juice.

Reply to boomer2point0

Check your memory timings. Why aren't you overclocked?

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Reply to PsychoSaysDie

Crp. It's not a power issue....

Were you overclocked before? Maybe you lost your overclock settings when you migrated over. I don't know what else it could be...

Reply to Macelo

I'm not overclocked because i'm a relative newbie to this hardware game and haven't mustered up the courage.

New revelation though. I just ran cpu-z and in the mainboard tab it says my link width is x8 (max supported x 16). Could this mean there is something wrong in my bios?

Reply to boomer2point0

Even if he was overclocked, a 50% drop in FPS should rule out an OC reset in the BIOS (assuming he's not over-exaggerating the frame drop) being an issue. If it's not power, I don't really know what else. Are the temps the same as before?

Reply to skolpo

temps are the same. I dont know how else to measure/address the power issue

Reply to boomer2point0

boomer2point0 wrote :

I'm not overclocked because i'm a relative newbie to this hardware game and haven't mustered up the courage.

New revelation though. I just ran cpu-z and in the mainboard tab it says my link width is x8 (max supported x 16). Could this mean there is something wrong in my bios?



There we go, I was thinking your PCI rate dropped too. Go to your BIOS and look for a setting to increase it to x16. That should fix your problem. I dunno how to do that in your BIOS though.

Reply to Macelo

boomer2point0 wrote :

I'm not overclocked because i'm a relative newbie to this hardware game and haven't mustered up the courage.

New revelation though. I just ran cpu-z and in the mainboard tab it says my link width is x8 (max supported x 16). Could this mean there is something wrong in my bios?




Then let me help you. Should boot right up at 4Ghz

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 450Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ops
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D or yours may like 2.0B, one will let you set lower PL(static tRead)
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................Auto
tWTR..........................................Auto
tWR............................................Auto
tRFC...........................................52
tRTP...........................................Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................Auto

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto, note what this is and try lower later
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto, note what this is and try lower later
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
.....LLC=Enabled
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.400v not more than 1.4v especially if you have E0 steppping
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.22v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Normal
CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: Normal

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.26
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; .74 or more likely .70 or .68, set this when VTT is 1.2v, then change VTT
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Normal
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Normal

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

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MSI X58 Pro-E
32GB SSD, WD Blacks In R0
Sapphire HD 5870's In XFire
Reply to PsychoSaysDie

Thanks pyscho

Im going to try and figure out how to change the link width to x16 first. First glance at the bios and I don't see anything.

Reply to boomer2point0
Best answer

^ Make sure you have the card in the correct socket. Your board seems to have 2x PCIe slots.
Assuming this is your board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130179


Message edited by Shadow703793 on 10-02-2009 at 01:29:48 AM
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Reply to Shadow703793

Problem solved. It does appear that the issue was caused by something in the bios (I might have reset the cmos while fumbling the mobo around). I loaded up a saved performance profile and my pcie card is back at x16 again.

... now to try this overclocking thing ...

Thanks Gang!

Reply to boomer2point0

boomer2point0 wrote :

Problem solved. It does appear that the issue was caused by something in the bios (I might have reset the cmos while fumbling the mobo around). I loaded up a saved performance profile and my pcie card is back at x16 again.

... now to try this overclocking thing ...

Thanks Gang!




Post with any issues overclocking. You'll be a lot happier at 4Ghz

------------------------------ Core I7 920 D0 @ 4.2Ghz
MSI X58 Pro-E
32GB SSD, WD Blacks In R0
Sapphire HD 5870's In XFire
Reply to PsychoSaysDie

Psycho, overclocking his CPU will give him a nice boost in applications, but won't solve his 50% fps drop issue. (And OCing to 4.0GHz is a lil extreme for a newcomer to OCing like him)

I think he might have driver issues or software issues...check to see if your GPU clock isn't fluctuating, reinstall drivers, use drivesweeper to clean out old drivers, etc

Reply to Bluescreendeath

He already fixed his GPU issue. It had something to do with BIOS.

Reply to skolpo

Bluescreendeath wrote :

Psycho, overclocking his CPU will give him a nice boost in applications, but won't solve his 50% fps drop issue. (And OCing to 4.0GHz is a lil extreme for a newcomer to OCing like him)

I think he might have driver issues or software issues...check to see if your GPU clock isn't fluctuating, reinstall drivers, use drivesweeper to clean out old drivers, etc




He fixed his FPS problem already. :lol:

------------------------------ Core I7 920 D0 @ 4.2Ghz
MSI X58 Pro-E
32GB SSD, WD Blacks In R0
Sapphire HD 5870's In XFire
Reply to PsychoSaysDie

PsychoSaysDie wrote :

He fixed his FPS problem already. :lol:



darn me and my inability to read! >_< lol

Reply to Bluescreendeath

Bluescreendeath wrote :

darn me and my inability to read! >_< lol


Meh, why read when there are things to stare at?, that's my philosophy. ;)

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