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September 16, 2009 2:26:08 AM

Hi guys, I'm a novice PC builder trying to put together a somewhat affordable (haha) but powerful i7 system. I've made these following selections for components and was curious if anyone would have any opinions to alter the build, or if you see any flaws in my decisions before I move forward with actually ordering anything. I appreciate all input and criticism, so please tell me anything that you feel could be changed for the better and why. I especially enjoy hearing from everyone here since I am just a beginner, so I don't have much faith in my ability yet haha.

So with that said, this is what I have chosen:

Case: Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: ASUS VW246H Black 24"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card: EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I already own this card)

Heatsink for CPU: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(So I can overclock to 3.0 and above safely, will this monster fit on the mobo with two fans? I think it'll fit in the case too I hope haha)

Blu-Ray/DVD drive: LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What do you think? Anything missing? Thank you very much for any input!
September 16, 2009 5:05:06 AM

^ That's a pretty good setup...And just a heads up...the cooler might interfere with tall heatsinks of the RAM...

But I dont see the point of using a Dominator in this setup...
Even these would be good...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And as for the CPU cooler, I would choose the Xig Dark Knight...
Even this can handle 1GHz overclock without any issues...
Only if you are planning to go beyond 3.8GHz, get the Noctua...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 16, 2009 6:24:27 AM

Yeah to be honest, the RAM was very confusing trying to compair timing with speed and stuff like that. Is there really no big difference between 1600 and 1333?

I think I'd go for the smaller cooler then, cheaper and I honestly don't see myself overclocking that much, especially if I need to mess with voltage.
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September 16, 2009 6:44:52 AM

@Kooper Yes there wont be any significant real world performance difference between DDR3 1333MHz and 1600MHz RAM...
And that Xig Dark Knight is also one of the best coolers for the i7...

And the suggestion for the HDD from dndhatcher is very good...You can plan RAID 0 with 2 of those drives, that would give you very high performance but make sure you store important data in a separate or external drive as RAID 0 has more chance of failure than single drive configs...
But if you want to stick with single drive config, then stick with the WD Blacks as the F3 lag behind those due to higher latency...
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September 16, 2009 7:34:32 AM

I realized the problem for me was that while looking for a cooler I went by socket type which didn't show the Dark Knight cooler.

Do you think it would be beneficial to drop down to this mobo perhaps?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has less memory support but if I'm going to just go with 1600 (since you say it's much better performance wise) I don't see much reason not to other than losing some USB ports (not that big of a deal).

Also one more note, the purpose of this computer is for high end gaming and HD video editing.
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September 16, 2009 8:08:31 AM

The only bad thing that motherboard has is the second pciex16 slot run at x8. May not be quite as fast at two card SLI or crossfire at very high resolutions as the other mobo. With the i7 920 able to handle two pcie slots at x16, that is a drawback.

What about this ASUS?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 16, 2009 8:11:54 AM

dndhatcher said:
The only bad thing that motherboard has is the second pciex16 slot run at x8. May not be quite as fast at two card SLI or crossfire at very high resolutions as the other mobo. With the i7 920 able to handle two pcie slots at x16, that is a drawback.

What about this ASUS?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I've had bad experiences with SLI, I'm never doing it again, so I guess that's not going to affect me. Thanks for pointing that out however.
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September 16, 2009 8:26:27 AM

Just adding my tidbits:
I'd consider the CM 690 case. It has plenty of room and will save you about $100 off of the 1200 you selected. It comes with 3 fans and has room for more!!
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

I'd also consider a different PSU, if you need to save a bit more $. The Corsair 750tx that you selected is a good PSU, but isn't needed that much for your build.

$99 - $10 MIRc = $89!!
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail


$90 shipped! Maybe another option to consider if you want 750w of power!
Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7" Power Supply - Retail
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September 16, 2009 8:27:16 AM

kooper said:
I've had bad experiences with SLI, I'm never doing it again, so I guess that's not going to affect me. Thanks for pointing that out however.


Kooper, what's the intended use for your build, and what's your budget ?
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September 16, 2009 8:34:14 AM

Why_Me said:
Kooper, what's the intended use for your build, and what's your budget ?


The primary intention is for gaming and HD video watching/editing.

I don't actually have too much of a roof on my budget, if I had to give it a specific number I'd say $1800 including taxes and shipping. However I'm trying to see any sacrifices I can make that won't make that big of a difference in the long run.
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September 16, 2009 8:35:57 AM

kooper said:
The primary intention is for gaming and HD video watching/editing


How about an i5 build then ?
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September 16, 2009 8:39:52 AM

Why_Me said:
How about an i5 build then ?


It's a consideration, but to be honest, since I had a big legroom for budget, I wanted to get top of the line just for the sake of it, saying i7 just sounds so much better. :lol: 
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September 16, 2009 8:45:54 AM

kooper said:
It's a consideration, but to be honest, since I had a big legroom for budget, I wanted to get top of the line just for the sake of it, saying i7 just sounds so much better. :lol: 

Well if you change the case/PSU/RAM you should be saving about $200 over your initial build. And your not changing any of the performance too. Even if you change the CPU HSF with the Xigmatek you can save a bit there too. This will allow you more $ for whatever you like!
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September 16, 2009 8:47:38 AM

If you were going to drop your case from the antec 1200, I would say get the 300 illusion. Still has 2 front, one rear and one top fan like the 1200, but mid-tower size and same $70 price as the CM690. Or at the $100 price range the antec 900 is less boxy with all 4 fans and a clear side to see all your components.
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September 16, 2009 8:49:26 AM

lunyone said:
Well if you change the case/PSU/RAM you should be saving about $200 over your initial build. And your not changing any of the performance too. Even if you change the CPU HSF with the Xigmatek you can save a bit there too. This will allow you more $ for whatever you like!


I kinda liked the case... I think I might really need to consider that one over a drink or two. :lol:  I mean esthetically that is.

But for the PSU, Am I going for too much power originally? I didn't want to underpower the overclocked CPU/Vid card/memory combo at all, but since I don't plan to do SLI would you say it's safe to step down to the PSU you suggested?
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September 16, 2009 8:53:03 AM

The antec illusion is a smaller antec 1200.
The antec 900 is less boxy.
THe antec 900Two is closer to the 1200 than the original 900.

I would stick with the 750 so you have the power to overclock and run two graphics cards someday.
The new ATI DX11 cards coming out can do some amazing things and someday you may want two for running 6 monitors (as one large screen).

With only one GPU, the 650 is plenty for overclocking and more internals.
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September 16, 2009 8:55:44 AM

Even if you didn't want to step down, the Antec 750w PSU for $90 is a steal!! The Corsair 650tx is no slouch and should be seriously considered. Either PSU will be more than enough, so it's up to you. There are other options, but I think the Antec 750w PSU is the better buy. Even if you want to still get the 1200 case, just buy the combo and save $30!!!

Antec 1200/Antec 750w PSU combo!!
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September 16, 2009 9:00:50 AM

The Antec Illusion actually looks really nice as well, I guess I really wouldn't need all the room the 1200 provides as I don't plan to expand that much.

What would you choose between the 1200 vs. antec illusion?

Also thanks to both you guys and everyone else for your input so far.

Oh yeah, lunyone, definitely going to go with your Power suggestions
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September 16, 2009 9:06:16 AM

If you dont plan on adding 3 GPUs and 6 HDDs the illusion is the way to go.

OMG - we are working you down to a more practical purchase. :pt1cable: 
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September 16, 2009 9:13:07 AM

Is that the Antec 300 Illusion that your talking about?
If your considering that price range the Cooler Master 690 is a better case, IMHO. I've built a system on the CM 690 case and I was quite supprised by the build quality.
If you want the look of the 1200, but don't want the cost, than the Antec 900 is another option. It is about $20 more than the CM 690 case, but the CM 690 case doesn't come with the lighted fans, which is alright with me.
For $185 shipped you get the 1200 look AND get the 650w Earthwatts PSU, which would work with your planned build!
Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply - Retail
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September 16, 2009 9:16:57 AM

I believe the 300 will have better airflow than the CM 690 because of the large top exhaust fan. Plus its a small clone of the 1200, which he likes the look of.

I have the 900 myself and like it alot. It sits on my desktop behind my monitor so I can peek around and see the insides.
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September 16, 2009 9:17:52 AM

Honestly this is close to the minimum that I'd look at for your build on the case/PSU combo to meet your needs:
$135 shipped!! Comes with a very good and efficient Antec 550w PSU!!
Antec 300 w/Antec New TP-550w PSU!!
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September 16, 2009 9:19:46 AM

The problem with that combo is its not the illusion. He would have to buy two 120mm 3way fans for the front ($30) to turn it into an illusion. The 300 only has the top and rear fans.
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September 16, 2009 9:21:12 AM

The CM 690 case comes with 3 x 120mm Case fans. 1 in the front, 1 in the side and one out the back!
Here are the other featers of the case:
Accommodates up to seven 120 mm fans for high-efficiency ventilation
Removable HDD racks provide for easy assembly
Cable management design for better cable routing and neatness
Tool-free user-friendliness for quick maintenance and upgrade
Roomy interior supports NVIDIA G80 SLI configuration <--- Old school, but definately has the room!!

Either case will do just fine, so it's up the OP to decide what works best for him. I haven't seen the Antec 300 case yet, so I can't say for sure on the build quality, which I'm sure is pretty good.
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September 16, 2009 9:32:03 AM

That is a good buy there, especially with the 650w PSU!! That would work quite well in the OP situation. We went from a $170 case/$120 PSU = $290 down to a $150 Case/PSU combo and still got the 1200 looks!! Woohooo!!
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September 16, 2009 9:47:40 AM

Now see if you can talk the OP into this combo :p 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$30.00 Combo Price: $346.98 Free Shipping*
ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-GP-Univ... $28.37 FREE Shipping
Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-GP Hyper 212 Plus 775/1156/1366/AMD/AM2/AM3 Universal Direct Contact Heat-Pipe 120mm Fan CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99 Free Shipping*
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
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September 16, 2009 10:00:38 AM

That should work out well too. I'm not sure how well the CM Hyper CPU HSF does, but that is only because I haven't researched it. The rest looks good to me.

I think for $5 less and also runs at stock voltage (1.5v) this set below is a tad better, IMHO:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - Retail
It is the 1333 mHz RAM compared to the 1600 mHz stuff you selected, but I don't think there will be much difference. I like the stock voltage RAM, since it usually bodes well when you start to OC the RAM sticks (not always, but at least you have a better chance!).
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September 16, 2009 10:06:31 AM

The OP said he was going for an o/c of around 3.0 or somewhere in that area. If he's going for a heavy o/c of 3.6+ than this h/s down below should suffice.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002N2JVEE/sr=8-... $64.95 + $8.29shipping
Noctua NH-U12P SE 2 CPU Cooler for (AM2, AM3, 775, 1366, 1156)- Four Dual Heat-Pipe, 2x 120 mm SSO Bearing Quiet Fan
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September 16, 2009 10:10:40 AM

I would suggest this case than any of the above...
HAF 922 - Has the looks, better air flow and is roomy...
http://www.provantage.com/cooler-master-rc-922m-kkn1-gp...

And Why _Me nice try :p 

But frankly Kooper I wouldn't suggest the i5 750...Get atleast the i7 860...
It would be more suitable for the next gen high powered graphics...and would last you long(In terms of performance)
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September 16, 2009 10:18:42 AM

gkay09 said:
I would suggest this case than any of the above...
HAF 922 - Has the looks, better air flow and is roomy...
http://www.provantage.com/cooler-master-rc-922m-kkn1-gp...

And Why _Me nice try :p 

But frankly Kooper I wouldn't suggest the i5 750...Get atleast the i7 860...
It would be more suitable for the next gen high powered graphics...and would last you long(In terms of performance)


ok gkay...that has to be a +10 for that find. I just bookmarked that site with the CM 922. That one is a steal. btw......how did you find that deal anyways ?

Oh and that Asus with the 860 still comes out cheaper than the 920 set up.
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September 16, 2009 10:23:21 AM

:p  Google
And with shipping it comes to around $88 - which is still less than many other sites...

And OMG :o  I got a +10 from Why_Me for a good deal find :o 
:p 

And Kooper I would still suggest the i7 for your budget...
i7 860 - If unlikely you would go with multiple cards.
i7 920 - If you might go Dual-card config in future.
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September 16, 2009 3:24:36 PM

Hi Kooper,
you almost have the same set up as mine. For the case go for a full tower and easy cable mangement. I have a tj-09 and It's not really friendly for cable mangement. Also check if the motherboard tray is removeable, it's easy to build that way. Last thing check if the motherboard tray have a hole directly on the cpu on the back side of the motherboard, more easy too change thing when it's need it. For the heatsink I have the same with my I7-920 for the last year I oc to 3.92 stable like a rock idle 39C load 12 hours prime 95 69-71 c.

Good luck with your build
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September 16, 2009 8:55:02 PM

My son (I'm making him do this on his own for "educational purposes :)  )has a similar build over here (he can't get his own account here as ISP blocks all mails from newegg) .... By the way, thx to all who responded to his post:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/270740-31-college-bou...

I'll address only the items I think might warrant some additional research before making a decision. Tho, have to say I can't find fault with any of your choices.

Case: Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Thumbs Up

Monitor: ASUS VW246H Black 24" - Dunno. Monitors are very subjective and published stats are routinely exaggerated. Important question is what ya gonna use it for ? For gaming, most monitors are what I call "boom boxed". Just like much of today's music is equalized (bass and hi end exaggerated) because it makes things sound better on most of the devices it's played on (boom boxes and car audio). That exaggeration makes it a bit harsh on the ears when played on an "accurate" sound system. The same thing applies in monitors. Side by side in a store, the "oversaturated monitor sells. However if you want to retouch photo images, this oversaturation will through your work off. So if this is important to you, in the sub $500 range, you'll want to find a S-VPA panel such as the Dell 2408WFP

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb
See this post which compares the 3 most popular HD's.....each excels in it's own area.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/271022-31-trepanation...

Mobo: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX - I went w/ the R2E but I'd do the P6T if that wasn't available.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W - Thumbs up

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Thumbs up (Corsair or Antec Signature Series OK in my book)

Memory: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit - There are kits with better CAS ratings (i.e Mushkin Redline) but they are $15 more.

Video Card: EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked (I already own this card) - Price is right !

Heatsink for CPU: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler - This or the Prolimatech Megahalems and 3.67 should be no sweat, might even get away w/ no voltage adjustment.

Blu-Ray/DVD drive: LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM - Plextor's no longer what it was so "flavor of the month" is fine w/ me

Have thermal compound ? If you planning on upgrading the vid card at soem pint to something akin to a future version of the 295 GTX, the 1200 is your box. It was great cooling .... at that point, ya may wanna add the two optional fanse.


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