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December 7, 2009 10:31:03 AM

I got:
Core 2 Duo 8400 clocked at 3.4
GTX 280
1920x1080 monitor
4gb of DDR2 800 rams
and around 400USD burning in wallet.

Should I get a new CPU? (possibly i5 750 or i7 860) which would mean i need a new Mobo and RAMs also.

or

Should I get a new 5870 or GTX 295?
In which path would I see better gaming performance? Thanks in advance for advice.

-Santi
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December 7, 2009 12:00:03 PM

Well getting a better CPU requires a motherboard change too,and IMO an E8400 @ 3.4 is pretty good for today's games,upgrading your VGA would give you more boost than upgrading your CPU for gaming.
So a HD 5850/HD 5870 would be a good upgrade,and its better to get them instead of GTX 295 because having a better price/performance ratio,what is your power supply though ?
December 7, 2009 12:19:31 PM

I got a Tagan 600w, dun remember the exact model number, it's the one with the blue lights. At first I thought about just upgrading only the GPU too, but then I read tom's article about building balanced gaming machine, so CPU upgrade came to mind. Another thing is that I am not really fully satisfied with my GTX 280, it was only uber for the a few weeks then the 285 came along and the my bragging rights were gone.
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December 7, 2009 1:42:32 PM

As i said your CPU is pretty good for today's games,and if you get a new CPU you have to get a new motherboard too and the effect of a better VGA like HD 5850 is a lot more than a better CPU on gaming
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December 7, 2009 2:34:59 PM

agree. just upgrade the gpu to 5850. You'll be able to get more life out of your system and save a lot of money in the process. when games start requiring tri and quad core cpu then upgrade but for now, you have a good cpu.

December 7, 2009 2:49:40 PM

Thanks for the advice guys, much appreciated. so, i guess i'll go for the 5870, 5850 seems pretty on par with my gtx 280 already(correct me if im wrong). so long physX... it's been a wild ride.
BTW, my Mobo has the 780i nforce chipset(Asus Striker II Formula), is that gonna be a problem with Ati's GPU? just wondering...
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December 7, 2009 4:49:27 PM

santi28 said:
Thanks for the advice guys, much appreciated. so, i guess i'll go for the 5870, 5850 seems pretty on par with my gtx 280 already(correct me if im wrong). so long physX... it's been a wild ride.
BTW, my Mobo has the 780i nforce chipset(Asus Striker II Formula), is that gonna be a problem with Ati's GPU? just wondering...


as long as you not going to try Crossfire, then your fine.

if you are going to want dual graphic cards options then you'll either have to stick with nvidia cards as your motherboard only supports sli, or you can change out your motherboard to have Ati's crossfire.
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December 7, 2009 5:23:47 PM

santi28 said:
Thanks for the advice guys, much appreciated. so, i guess i'll go for the 5870, 5850 seems pretty on par with my gtx 280 already(correct me if im wrong). so long physX... it's been a wild ride.
BTW, my Mobo has the 780i nforce chipset(Asus Striker II Formula), is that gonna be a problem with Ati's GPU? just wondering...

Well HD 5850 is about 10% slower than HD 5870 so its a lot faster than a GTX 280 :) 
About your motherboard,you will be fine with a single card like HD 5850/5870
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December 7, 2009 5:35:55 PM

^^best answer him.

I'm definitely the novice at this level GPU since I dont have money like this to spend--but I have to ask--why didnt anyone suggest adding another GTX 280?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Only $254--and he wont get his money back trying to resell the current 280 on craigslist...
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December 7, 2009 5:47:05 PM

December 7, 2009 5:55:46 PM

deadlockedworld said:
^^best answer him.

I'm definitely the novice at this level GPU since I dont have money like this to spend--but I have to ask--why didnt anyone suggest adding another GTX 280?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Only $254--and he wont get his money back trying to resell the current 280 on craigslist...


well... it's not like I have that kinda money all the time. Anyways, I thought about getting another GTX 280 but I would mean that i have to get better PSU. 2 GTX 280 won't survive on my 600w PSU. Thanks for advice anyways.
December 7, 2009 6:19:32 PM

Am I the only one that thinks that a 5850 isn't a huge upgrade over his current GTX 280? Yes, that is technically an upgrade... but a pretty minor one. Unless you're able to sell the GTX 280 for a very hefty sum, I just don't see a 5850 as being realistic... if you're dying for something new either add a 2nd GTX 280 or go for something higher... 5870 or even a 5970 when they're available.
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December 7, 2009 6:22:12 PM

rodney_ws said:
Am I the only one that thinks that a 5850 isn't a huge upgrade over his current GTX 280? Yes, that is technically an upgrade... but a pretty minor one. Unless you're able to sell the GTX 280 for a very hefty sum, I just don't see a 5850 as being realistic... if you're dying for something new either add a 2nd GTX 280 or go for something higher... 5870 or even a 5970 when they're available.


we where also taking into account his PSU ;) 
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December 7, 2009 6:54:59 PM

rodney_ws said:
Am I the only one that thinks that a 5850 isn't a huge upgrade over his current GTX 280? Yes, that is technically an upgrade... but a pretty minor one. Unless you're able to sell the GTX 280 for a very hefty sum, I just don't see a 5850 as being realistic.


I agree with that.

What about getting a better monitor so you can actually tell the difference between a 280 and 5850?

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December 8, 2009 2:19:52 AM

deadlockedworld said:
I agree with that.

What about getting a better monitor so you can actually tell the difference between a 280 and 5850?

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1. sweet new oak desk
2. sweet new ergonomic chair
3. sweet speakers
4. jewelry for any sweet woman
5. invest it to spend on any of the above in the future


Thanks for the financial advice.... you know, I would have gone to their respective websites/forum if were actually interested in spending in those categories.

Anyways, getting back to topic, I own a 1920x1080 23" monitor (samsung syncmaster). I should be enough to tell the difference I think.
December 8, 2009 2:30:01 AM

warmon6 said:
we where also taking into account his PSU ;) 


So you are saying that a 600w PSU won't be enough for a single 5870 or 5970? I don't have many things on my mobo. Just a 1TB HD, DVD RW, that's it.
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December 8, 2009 2:31:24 AM

santi28 said:
Thanks for the financial advice.... you know, I would have gone to their respective websites/forum if were actually interested in spending in those categories.

Anyways, getting back to topic, I own a 1920x1080 23" monitor (samsung syncmaster). I should be enough to tell the difference I think.


well the only better monitors are 2560 x 1600 and for those behemoths you want the GTX 285 tri sli, GTX 295 quad sli, HD 5870 cf, or 5970 (maybe CF).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5970,2474...

I think you should just stick with getting 5870/5850.
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December 8, 2009 2:36:53 AM

santi28 said:
So you are saying that a 600w PSU won't be enough for a single 5870 or 5970? I don't have many things on my mobo. Just a 1TB HD, DVD RW, that's it.


i was more referring to adding a second gtx 280 than the 5870 and 5970. your psu could run the 5870's although 5970 may not. sorry if i wasn't clear on that.
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December 8, 2009 9:59:49 AM

rodney_ws said:
Am I the only one that thinks that a 5850 isn't a huge upgrade over his current GTX 280? Yes, that is technically an upgrade... but a pretty minor one. Unless you're able to sell the GTX 280 for a very hefty sum, I just don't see a 5850 as being realistic... if you're dying for something new either add a 2nd GTX 280 or go for something higher... 5870 or even a 5970 when they're available.

Well if the OP played at a resolution like 1280x1024 i would have agreed with you because on that resolution both HD 5850 and GTX 280 would be very well and can handle things fine,but for 1920x1200 there are many demanding games that you will see a noticeable difference between these 2 cards.
As i said HD 5850 performs a little lower than a HD 5870,so it would be a good upgrade from a GTX 280
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December 8, 2009 11:36:11 AM

santi28 said:
Thanks for the financial advice.... you know, I would have gone to their respective websites/forum if were actually interested in spending in those categories.


Yea.. sorry I shouldnt make fun of you just because you have money to blow and im jealous :-)
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