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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 05:32:42 PM

Hey guys!!!

So here is my current set up.

Quad core q6600 2.4 w/ 8gb ram and 2x evga superclock edition 8800gt 512mb cards.

I just picked up nvidia 3d vision glasses w/ monitor.

Noticing that it plays most games fine but recent ones are laggy.

I want to know what kind of a performance gain I will see by switching out these 2 cards for 1 gtx 274 896mb. I can get the evga one for 275 delivered cdn. But I really don't want to spend money if I'm not getting much improvement. I haven't really kept up with current trends so am looking for advice on how to proceed.

Who knows maybe my CPU will be a bottleneck.

Let me know guys!

Many thanks!

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-04-2009 at 05:36:19 PM

2x 8800GT's are so close to one GTX275 according to the benchies that you may need two I reckon to be able to see any real benefit.

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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 06:21:57 PM

Really? Cool thanks. I couldn't find any charts of 8800gt in sli only single 8800gt. And I read somewhere that 8800 gt sli is same as single 8800 ultra so I was kind of going by that. Shoot me some links if you have.

Also what you think of the CPU/ ram...

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impaledmango   10-04-2009 at 08:15:49 PM

8800gt is sli is basically a 9800gx2, which is 1 frame worse then a gtx 280 in most cases which is very comparable to a gtx 275. Just make sure you can support the power consumption.


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godbrother   10-04-2009 at 08:21:03 PM

I'll take your 8800GT's from you :) Thinking on selling them?

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impaledmango   10-04-2009 at 08:22:03 PM

I have one i'm trying to sell :). Evga 8800gt 512mb

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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 09:15:24 PM

so i'm a little confused now...

according to this chart:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] ,1454.html

I should be getting like 100 fps with a gtx 275, and if my 8800gt sli set up is more or less the same, then I should get similiar fps right.

however I'm getting only like 60 fps.

what gives?

is my sli set up correctly?

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obsidian86   10-04-2009 at 09:20:23 PM

toms test their cards with 4 ghz cpu's

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HansVonOhain   10-04-2009 at 09:48:37 PM

You might need to OC your CPU to get a little more out of it ;)

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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 09:49:47 PM

so my cpu is bottlenecking my video cards? does that also mean that if i plop in that gtx 275, i'm going to see no improvement?

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HansVonOhain   10-04-2009 at 09:53:42 PM

No, there is no bottleneck, it is just comparing Tom's tests with your own is not really comparable.

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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 09:56:48 PM

see the thing is I kinda already put an order through late friday for the gtx 275, but after reading all this, i'm going to cancel that order. thanks guys!

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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 10:02:09 PM

oh okay, well in that case... still cancel my gtx 275 then? i mean no performance gain?

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godbrother   10-04-2009 at 10:18:17 PM

impaledmango wrote :

I have one i'm trying to sell :). Evga 8800gt 512mb



How much?

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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 10:27:37 PM

check this link:
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc [...] =3334&p=11

so according to this, i'll actually be paying almost $300 to downgrade in performance???

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obsidian86   10-04-2009 at 10:42:25 PM

if you willing to forgo the nvidia route the ati 5850 would be a good option, but for now hold onto what you got till nvidia release their dx11 cards,get a good cpu cooler and overclock the q6600 a bit it should give some better results on your current setup


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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 10:42:45 PM

well if that's the case... i'm obviously sticking with my current set up and will wait a while and then do a complete upgrade...

question now... i've never really tweaked my system. i'm running win 7 pro. but from a cpu/gpu point of view, what tips, overclock tools, etc... do you recommend I begin with to get the most juice out of my system?

thanks!

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smoggy12345   10-04-2009 at 10:50:05 PM

Those CPU's are really good for overclocking...im sure ive seen people with these @ 3.6GHz+ on water cooling....IIRC, you should be able to push 3.0 to 3.2GHz on stock cooling without too much problem.

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obsidian86   10-04-2009 at 10:52:20 PM

not on stock cooling by far and the g0 stepping q6600 was an epic fail i find this a pretty good guide http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/foru [...] _11_0.html

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-04-2009 at 11:41:59 PM

xizorgetspeed wrote :

so i'm a little confused now...

according to this chart:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] ,1454.html

I should be getting like 100 fps with a gtx 275, and if my 8800gt sli set up is more or less the same, then I should get similiar fps right.

however I'm getting only like 60 fps.

what gives?

is my sli set up correctly?



Have you got v-sync on? and L4D is not graphically intensive.

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impaledmango   10-04-2009 at 11:46:08 PM

godbrother wrote :

How much?


$50 CAN sounds good? That's about $46 american, no tax and depending on where you live I'll pay 4 shipping.


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xizorgetspeed   10-04-2009 at 11:56:06 PM

mousemonkey wrote :

Have you got v-sync on? and L4D is not graphically intensive.



should i have v-sync on?

i don't know what's good.

thanks!

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-05-2009 at 12:13:48 AM

If you have v-sync on your fps will be capped at 60 fps, usually.

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smithereen   10-05-2009 at 01:25:24 AM

L4D is not graphics intensive. That 100FPS benchie is done on a 4gHz i7 I think.

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