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December 8, 2009 8:24:10 PM

idk what one is better a 775 socket motherboard or a 478 socket motherboard
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December 8, 2009 8:41:53 PM

Socket 775 is better BUT both are E.O.L., so I won't build new using either one.
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December 9, 2009 5:09:42 AM

well i want to build a new one but im on a budget and i cant spend much because im buying everything but the cd/dvd drives ive been looking for a good gamer motherboard but idk what to get i was going to get a MSI G31TM-P21 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard it was cheap plus i have no idea what i need i was kinda guessing on everything

heres what i was going to get with it

Intel Celeron E1500 2.2GHz 512KB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

Blue Star 650W 20+4-pin Blue LED Fan ATX PSU w/SATA & PCIe

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 500GB SATA/300 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive

Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5/1G

i was also going to get a case also
Cooler Master RC-922M-KKN1-GP HAF 922M ATX Mid Tower Case

like i said i was just going to get something cheap and within about a 300$ budget im new to building my own computer i need help
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December 9, 2009 5:33:53 AM

If your considering gaming at all I would say you would probably need to spend at least $450-$500. You could build a $300 build but it wouldnt be able to play any kind of games.
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December 9, 2009 12:46:44 PM

Yeah you would have to get a discrete graphics card.The Integrated Graphics would suck at games (except for solitaire).Even a $50 discrete graphics card like a Radeon 4650 card would be a monster improvement.You could also go with a much cheaper case like a $30 one.That particular case is huge in size and especially very long more fitting for a ATX motherboard.
For what you are getting you don't need a 650 watt power supply.
Here is a cheap case with a power supply (just one example there are many more).
It is a mini tower for a micro ATX motherboard.
It is $35 with a power supply albeit a lowly 350 watt one not sufficient for higher end graphics cards but will work with a Radeon 4650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 9, 2009 12:58:21 PM

If you want low cost gaming an AMD setup will be far better.

An Athlon II 240 will destroy the celeron

Also a cost effective amd system will be FAR more upgradable in the future compared to an LGA775 of intel
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December 9, 2009 1:16:58 PM

^ +1 on the Athlon II 240 idea.Here is a nice CPU/Motherboard combo (can even run older games with much better integrated graphics although adding a cheap discrete graphics card would be a better improvement).$119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Here is another CPU/Mobo combo although the reviews on the motherboard don't look so good but only 2 reviews so far so it's hard to tell.
It's $124.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Computer system memory for some reason has gone up in price unfortunately and yes you will want at least 2 GB so expect to spend around $45 to $50 for DDR2 whether DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066.

With CPU (and heatsink/fan) + Motherboard + Memory + cheap Case/Power supply that's around $200.
A small cheap hard drive add around $50.A discrete Radeon 4650 would add another $50.
You would still need a DVD burner unless you have a spare one and also an operating system unless you already have it.
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December 9, 2009 2:12:47 PM

I would never use that cheap rosewill power supply. Cheap power supplies are unreliable at best. When it goes it can esily take the whole sytem with it.
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December 9, 2009 2:33:45 PM

BadTrip said:
I would never use that cheap rosewill power supply. Cheap power supplies are unreliable at best. When it goes it can esily take the whole sytem with it.

I would agree with you mostly.I prefer a higher tier more expensive power supply but on a $300 budget that's pretty hard to meet.
I've had sub $50 cases with power supplies that have never failed even after 6 years of use.Actually personally I've never had a power supply failure yet and I have had 100+ systems (threw away or gave away many of these systems recently due to obsolesence).
I was just making one example of a sub $50 case with a powersupply.It was an example only.
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December 9, 2009 4:50:26 PM

Motherboard + CPU Combo

1. AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX245OCGQBOX - Retail

2. BIOSTAR A785GE AM2+/AM3 AMD 785G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$109.98


Memory

CORSAIR 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model VS2GB800D2 G - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$43.99

Hard Drive

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$47.99

Power Supply

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$39.97

Case

Antec Two Hundred Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$39.95


TOTAL

$281.88


Much better computer than the celeron option.

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December 9, 2009 4:53:06 PM

well the 650 wat power supply its fine because i found one for 20$ which is a amazing price i have a cd/dvd drive laying around also have a ati radeon 9200 pci 128 mb video card. and the 500g ram i found for about 40$ and has good reviews i go between newegg and computergeeks but im looking into the motherboard/processor which is cheaper then the motherboard and processor i was looking at it was about 120$ total and the processor was a 2.2 i also want to overclock. thats why i was going to spend all that money on that big of a tower it is a atx case and a midtower with amazin airflow also i was going to buy 3 fans and a fan controller to controll the fan speed when i was playing the games and when i was idle. but if thats a bad idea tell me lol
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December 9, 2009 4:59:57 PM

geeks .com sells junk, plain and simple. Your radeon card will not be as powerful as the onboard on the motherboard I picked.
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December 9, 2009 5:02:08 PM

well can you link that motherboard processor combo? i do like what you got there to but with that computer case you think i will be able to overclock?
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December 9, 2009 5:22:05 PM

this is my first computer ever built im always playing on a stock dell dimension 2400 which sucks it has 1gb of ram and a 2.7 processor and a stock video card. now i play wow on it with the graphics set as low as they go lol now i dont want to get a amazing video card im fin with just a lousy one being able to play wow with some graphics i will upgrade later
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December 9, 2009 6:36:29 PM

I fixed my links. Sorry about that. I see no reason you could not overclock with that case.
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December 9, 2009 7:21:08 PM

tecmo34 said:
Socket 775 is better BUT both are E.O.L., so I won't build new using either one.


pentium 4 northwood is still on stock with socket 478 mb that support ddr2/agp&pcie board
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December 10, 2009 6:41:23 PM

hey man what ram do you think i should get for ^ +1 on the Athlon II 240 idea.Here is a nice CPU/Motherboard combo (can even run older games with much better integrated graphics although adding a cheap discrete graphics card would be a better improvement).$119
this combo i was trying to look up ram that it would take but i couldnt find it and i dont want to buy some ram and it not wor for it
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December 10, 2009 7:13:14 PM

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the celeron is like a really $hit sempron just get a amd setup.Im currently using my newest setup as my xmas present.Its a good comp and its quite fast and i bought all the parts myself and it only cost around 120pound.

I have a oced sempron to 3.1ghz 3gb samsung ddr2 800mhz ram airflow king case sound blaster audigy2zs and ecs gf8100vm-m5 board


That celeron is based off the core architecture and is faster clock for clock than your Sempron, it is also a dual core while your sempron has only one core. At the stock 2.2 it'll out perform your 3.0Ghz Sempron in almost all tasks, and it would also overclock just as far or further than your Sempron.
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December 10, 2009 7:25:25 PM

so would this be a bad powersupply i found it on new egg and it was cheap was 79.99 but after some savings and mail in rebate it was only 29.99, i was going to get the motherboard and processor combo all that right there would be a total of 150 or something just guessing and then a cheap case some ram and a harddrive and i have me a nice cheap computer. but im still looking for the ram to go with the harddrive

ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX

APEVIA ATX-JV650W 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply
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December 10, 2009 7:30:52 PM

I have already provided links to ram and hard drive. There is nothing wrong with that power supply.
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December 10, 2009 7:42:09 PM

cody_80 said:
APEVIA ATX-JV650W 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply

I would recommend against this PSU... Here is a review one of their top models... NOT GOOD!! http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... I couldn't find a review for your PSU, which isn't good either... IMO!
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December 10, 2009 7:42:09 PM

oh ok so pretty much that ram that you listed above will work? plus im going to use that case and hard drive that you listed which is nice and thanks a lot for the help
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December 10, 2009 7:45:51 PM

tecmo34 said:
I would recommend against this PSU... Here is a review one of their top models... NOT GOOD!! http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... I couldn't find a review for your PSU, which isn't good either... IMO!


man that sucks that the powersupply sucks just when i thought i found a good psu for a nice price ahaha *** thanks guess ill keep on looking then
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December 10, 2009 8:02:59 PM

I didn't notice it on the first review of the PSU but the PSU doesn't have Active PFC, so it is definitely a NO GO for a PSU... IMO!!

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December 10, 2009 8:29:27 PM

How about this power supply.It's a Corsair 400 watts which should be adequate.
Also has a 4 pin/8 pin EPS CPU connector which is needed for those 785G boards.
It's $35 after the $15 MIR.The reviews look good.
Corsair is a higher tier brand.
By the way this price won't be there that long so it looks like a grab.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 10, 2009 9:07:04 PM

jj463rd said:
How about this power supply.It's a Corsair 400 watts which should be adequate.
Also has a 4 pin/8 pin EPS CPU connector which is needed for those 785G boards.
It's $35 after the $15 MIR.The reviews look good.
Corsair is a higher tier brand.
By the way this price won't be there that long so it looks like a grab.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



That is an excellent choice. Good Job.
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December 11, 2009 2:12:38 PM

C00lIT said:
If you can manage to squeeze this into it you won't have to worry about "Will this game run"
Should also run WoW smoothly with high setting.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Good price on that discrete graphics card and yes he will need one if he wants to game.
Integrated graphics will just one up and running though during the meantime.
For just the hardware I can see a system under $300 but with the discrete graphics card the target price for the hardware will be more likely around $350 after combo deals,sales price discounts and Mail in Rebates.
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December 11, 2009 4:12:51 PM

well im not going to get a graphics card right now because of money but in a month or so i will be getting one so im not to worried about it now but i will be looking for a good one to go in my ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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December 15, 2009 6:06:24 PM

so this is going to be a dumb question but i got a 9.6" x 9.6" motherboard microatx, so do i have to get a computer case 9.6" x 9.6" or can it be bigger as long as it will hold a microatx motherboard?
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December 15, 2009 6:24:54 PM

There are no dumb questions. Any standard case will work.
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December 15, 2009 6:35:55 PM

awesome well im going to get me a nice full tower microatx case so later on i can get me addons to the computer plus i want to have good airflow in my computer.. oh and would it be a good idea to get me a new processor fan or something?

and whats the difference between a psu powersupply and a regular powersupply
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December 15, 2009 7:18:06 PM

cody_80 said:
awesome well im going to get me a nice full tower microatx case so later on i can get me addons to the computer plus i want to have good airflow in my computer.. oh and would it be a good idea to get me a new processor fan or something?

What type of HSF are you using and it is compatable with the LGA 775?? Aftermarket or Stock. If it is a stock HSF, I would recommend upgrading to an aftermarket HSF. Here is the best performing HSF for the price (price to performance winner... IMO)... Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - Retail

PSU powersupply and regular powersupply are the same. The term PSU is just short for power supply unit.
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December 15, 2009 7:45:18 PM

i just bought a .....AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor... just got it in the mail today and the fan just looked cheap ya know so i was jw if i should get a different one since im going to oc the processor came with this motherboard ......ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard ....... and i planned on getting this computer case with it...... NZXT Guardian 921 CS-NT-GD921-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case.. its all from new egg
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December 15, 2009 8:08:34 PM

cody_80 said:
i just bought a .....AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor... just got it in the mail today and the fan just looked cheap ya know so i was jw if i should get a different one since im going to oc the processor came with this motherboard ......ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard ....... and i planned on getting this computer case with it...... NZXT Guardian 921 CS-NT-GD921-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case.. its all from new egg

Missed that you switched to the Athlon II X2 240 over an LGA 775 CPU... Good choice by the way!! :D 

Since you do plan on overclocking, you will need an aftermarket HSF. For AM3 socket, I recommend either the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus or the Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer
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December 15, 2009 9:15:27 PM

oh man both of them are very nice. yea the athlon's specs convinced me all the way i got that video card that the one guy said i should get i also got a kingston 2gb 800mhz ram i just figured i would also over clock the ram ill need help doing that later haha but i learn very fast trust me. but i got a
..... Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500 GB 7200RPM SATA 3 GB/s 16 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive ST3500418AS-Bare Drive ..... but you think i should still get that 400w powersupply? i just hope that it will be enough for oc and all the other things i got. also for that computer case should i get all new 120mm fans to go with it or just keep the ones i have
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December 15, 2009 11:53:46 PM

A 400w corsair will be fine. But if you do intend on overclocking, just for assurance to myself i usually get more than what i need. Theres no bad in having more you know ? :D 

I suggest a 550w corsair or similar thermaltake, antec etc with at least an 80+
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December 16, 2009 12:22:41 AM

80+? but yea i intend to get like a 600 or so just to be sure
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December 16, 2009 2:50:31 PM

tecmo34 said:
Missed that you switched to the Athlon II X2 240 over an LGA 775 CPU... Good choice by the way!! :D 

Since you do plan on overclocking, you will need an aftermarket HSF. For AM3 socket, I recommend either the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus or the Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer






hey i was looking at your links that you have would it be a good idea to get this psu? its looking nice and the gamer part even had it and thats what im building ....CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply...

so over all after im buying everything ill spend about 500$ and not 250-300 lol
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December 16, 2009 3:06:00 PM

cody_80 said:
hey i was looking at your links that you have would it be a good idea to get this psu? its looking nice and the gamer part even had it and thats what im building ....CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply...

so over all after im buying everything ill spend about 500$ and not 250-300 lol

It is a great PSU, which will allow you to Crossfire/SLI pretty much all current GPU's. It is "overkill" for your system but provides an upgrade path. If you can fit it into your budget, it will do you fine. Also, you can pick up a Corsair 650TX and be safe with your system.
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December 16, 2009 4:11:15 PM

so what one would be better the 650 or the 750? the 750 one is cheaper just because the mail in rebate and it has some very nice reviews and ever since ive figured out what pfc means and what it does thats the only type of psu i will get as long as its active
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