I'm looking to put together a workstation. Cost is not a concern although cheaper is obviously better and I'm not looking to throw away money for insignificant performance gains.
General usage includes all of the following simultaneously on a daily basis.
- Real time trading applications
- Computational intensive financial modeling and simulations(unfortunately the main model is currently single threaded)
- streaming video, web surfing, outlook, very large excel worksheets, word, !ACT, local SQL server, XP in windows 7 virtual machine, ect
I have 4 monitors, three 24 inch and one 30 inch(I will likely swap out a 24 and add a 30). I'm currently running an NVS 450(seems slow? but maybe maybe system?) Do I need to replace with a better graphics card?
I would like to upgrade the CPU to the i9 when it comes out so I'm thinking pairing a i7 920 with a top of the line motherboard. I have no problem OCing.
I need applications and data files to be extremely responsive without any load times. In my business speed is essential and even the loss of a couple of seconds could be critical. I either want to go with SSDs in RAID O(new intels MLC or the vertex MLC) or go with the new OCZ Z drive as the main drive. I already own 2 WD Raptors 300s I can use as storage drives.
I also want something that is extremely quiet.
Other than than the video card and WD drives, my hardware is old and needs to be replaced. Complete system build ideas would be a tremendous help and would be greatly appreciated.
6GB of DDR3-1600 or -2000, something with good timings (CL7). OCZ has good value in this segment
You have the hard drives covered.
Case: Personal preference, I don't know much about quiet cases, others will have their thoughts.
PSU: 750W PC Power and Cooling, Corsair, Seasonic
I recommend that because of the following
you say you want 4 monitors, well some of the new ATI cards launching 58xx are capable of running 6 monitors off of one card. I would look for one of these, just in case you want to add another pair of displays.
Message edited by astrodudepsu on 09-19-2009 at 11:33:24 PM
------------------------------i7 920 @ 3.33gHz, X58-UD4P, 6GB OCZ Gold 1333mHz, 4890 @ 925mHz, WD Caviar Black 500 and 640 GB, PCP&C 750W, and a CM V8 all stuffed into a CM 690
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I would like to upgrade the CPU to the i9 when it comes out so I'm thinking pairing a i7 920 with a top of the line motherboard. I have no problem OCing.
You probably won't need to OC, but I agree with the cores. 4 minimum and 6 would be great. You don't need a top-end MB, as far as X58 goes, just a decent one.
Raptors are old tech and not that fast. Just grab a 640GB Caviar Black to replace them... get a retail one with the full warranty.
SSD is still pretty new. Here is what I am seeing. I know you want a "G2" version of the Intel drive for maximum performance and less degradation.
I see two versions for sale, and the only difference I am seeing is the retail box and some mounting hardware.... and a $220 price jump.
Is there any benefit going with a super high end mother board? I want this machine to last for a long time and I don't have a problem upgrading CPUs which I intend to do to the i9 when it comes out. Something like this ?
I'm also completely lost in terms of cases. Does anyone have an idea of something of reasonable size and extremely quiet with good airflow. I'm going to want OC whatever I have but only with heatsink + air.
Also seems like super high end PSU is worth it. Is there a specific one that is the best ? Thanks again for your time and help.
The board you refer to is designed for water cooling.
If you want something to last a long time, keep it simple. The more complex a system, the more likely it is to fail at any given time.
This would also be true for RAID 0, where you have double the chance of failure over a single drive solution.
"Super high end PSU" does not mean super high wattage. You have absolutely no need for a 1200W PSU that will be inefficient because the load on it is only 260W.
That Z-drive is supposedly very fast, but it comes with one hell of a price tag...
I think 2 of those new Intel X25-M SSD in RAID 0 will be plenty fast for your needs.
12 gigs ram will just allow faster loading ect but nothing major for your needs and the bottleneck will be the i7 920 at anything under 3ghz i'd say and the graphics gard thereafter
Message edited by obsidian86 on 09-21-2009 at 10:01:23 PM
------------------------------I took a step back to look at the bigger picture and realized i needed better glasses
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Great. Thanks everyone. I'm going to go ahead and order everything except the video card and hard drive as I intend to get the new ATI card and an OCZ PCI Zdrive as my main HD. I'll use my raptors and NVS 450 in until they are available. Anything I'm missing or doing incorrectly here? Thanks.
If you really do get the ZDrive PLEASE post the benchmarks for it. Overall, good build. Also DO NOT go RAID0. Go RAID 01/10. If one drive fails on a RAID0 array you're sunk. Also consider a RAID5 array + a good backup plan for your DATA (assuming this is a mission critical build/data). It's fine to just go RAID1/01 for your OS/programs. If you want a quiet system, it may be worth it to consider these fans: YateLoon, Scythe Slipstream, Scythe SFlex, Noctua. Check out reviews here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article63-page2.html and http://www.silentpcreview.com/article739-page1.html (Note: They don't mention the YateLoons but they are popular with the WCing arena due to a good noise to CFM ratio. ). Also investing in a good fan controller may be a good idea.
Message edited by Shadow703793 on 09-22-2009 at 01:52:07 AM
Thanks again for the help everyone. I got everything put together and have been running the computer all day.Very quiet! It runs at about 43C under normal conditions (all my apps running). Is this okay? As for the graphics card, will this support 4 graphics cards?
43C idle would be a bit warm, but 43C would be fine for a normal load. RealTemp will track you minimum and maximum temps, and is very compact...
Real Temp
That will take only a couple seconds to DL and run. Let me know what it says.
its reading about 42-43 with real time trading apps running, outlook, excel, word, streaming video and some random apps. What do you think the best option is for 4 monitors. Currently 3 24 and 1 30. This NVS 450 is horrible. Thanks.
I'm thinking two of these Sapphire 4650s, because they run fairly cool and are sure to be enough for your needs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102843 However I still need to confirm that the 30" will run off the DVI port and still allow the 24".