How to build a computer that can run Aion very well

[Guest]

Hey Since the new mmo Aion is coming my old pc can barley run the game, ive been looking at pcs at newegg, found an extremely awesome open box one for 719$ but before i could make sure i had the money someone bought it. my price range is probably max $900, dont need speakers,mouse,monitor,keyboard. just the computer itself. thanks in advance

 

[hunter315]

If you could use this template it helps quite a bit when people are trying to pick out parts
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

 

[Guest]

o sorry, thought this was like yahoo answers or something, i dont have much of a preference on brands etc, use is going to be playing aion and surfing the internet, doesnt "need" to be overclockable.

 

[hunter315]

Please just use the template format, everyone who tries to fudge it always skips the important bits just like you did. Your monitor resolution is critical.

 

[Guest]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1-3weels

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Play Aion Great and surfing internet

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers,

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com or amazon.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: Quad core cpu no brand preferences

OVERCLOCKING: Doesnt have to be, but would be a good thing to have SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280x1024

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Noise wise, as long as it runs aion well and doesnt overheat it can be as loud as a truck =)

 

[Twoboxer]

Its not that so much as you haven't given us much to work with. Aion being the target game, a fast clock speed (dual or tri-core) is essential as MMOs are demanding.

I can pick a decent fast, dual core if you don't OC, or a slower cheaper one if you do. now I know you don't OC.

But I still don't know your screen resolution, so I don't know how much has to be spent on a graphics card.

Anyhow, at the high end an i5 750 system can be built for under $700 including the OS, but excluding the graphics card. Any graphics card we might select will be within your $900 budget. Besides being brand new tech, the benefit of this cpu is that it will overclock itself automatically when using less than 4 cores, like when playing Aion.

A high-end but older tech dual core can cost maybe $100-$150 less

So, please give me the link to that "awesome open box" at Newegg, and tell me what's your screen resolution and which system you want me to put together.

 

[Twoboxer]

OK, now I know your screen res lol.

 

[hunter315]

Thanks, that makes life ALOT easier.

Build price $908 including optical drive and OS

i5/ASUS P55 Pro $340
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.259878

Gskill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 CL7 ram $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231279

Samsung F3/Vista Home $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.259577.22-152-181

Samsung DVD burner $28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151187

Antec 900/EA750 $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.245583

XFX 4850 512MB $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150337&cm_re=XFX_4850-_-14-150-337-_-Product

That setup will provide you plenty of upgrade room, if you dont plan to upgrade for a while or only plan to run 1 GPU you can swap the PSU for this one and save $25 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016&cm_re=modxstream-_-17-341-016-_-Product

The i5 will be a great build for years to come, the GPU price will likely drop next week when the 58xx series comes out and should bring you under budget. What system had you been looking at on newegg?

 

[Twoboxer]

A different i5 build. Less (unneeded) power, newer cooler case, slower memory (you won't notice), faster disk, DVD/CD burner. Under budget with shipping (at least to my house) at $895.91:

Intel Core i5 750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail Combo $255
Antec earthwatts EA500 500W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.258910

GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128405

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL8D-4GBHK - Retail $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Writer - Bulk - LightScribe Support - OEM $31
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106333

XFX HD-485X-YDFC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail Combo $215
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.259592.14-150-337

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

or save $10 with this case:

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196&cm_re=storm_scout-_-11-119-196-_-Product

 

[Guest]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229119
that but when it was open box it was for 719, may not be a i7 but its pretty badass, well at least to a non techy lol

 

[Twoboxer]

I assume that the open box version wasn't available - the link shows a $1050 system with a less capable processor and a way overkill vid card. In all fairness it has more disk space and more (but slower) memory.

FYI, to add that 4890 vid card to your system would increase the cost of either build above by about $105. And the case used - NZXT Beta - sells for $40 without the windowed side.

 

[Guest]

which of the 2 systems u guys put up there would aion better?

 

[Twoboxer]

The only speed differences are:

Hunter has faster memory, mine has faster disk. The mobos will make no speed difference that we are aware of. They have the same vid card, same cpu.

You can make one just like the other (speed wise) by swapping Hunter's memory for mine, or my disk for Hunter's. That will break up combos, and may raise the price, but you get the idea.

Oh - for MMOs, I believe my build is a tiny bit faster (just the disk obviously).

 

[Guest]

ok i did what u said, just added hunters memory to yours, now all i got to do is learn how to put a computer together, Now wait would this build be any different if i was getting a 1920x1200 monitor or no?

 

[hunter315]

Yes, if you were getting a 1920x1200 monitor then you are going to want a 4890 to be able to play it on high settings, higher resolutions require significantly more power.

To learn how to put it together there are some video tutorials online, but by far the most important thing for you to do, read the manuals before you start.

Twoboxer, have you seen a review of the F3 yet? Logic dictates that it should be like the 500GB seagate 12 series on the charts here and should outperform the Blacks but i havent found a full review of it yet.

 

[obsidian86]

its not a too demanding game http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10344/

 

[hunter315]

Those are very similar to Oblivion's graphics requirements, and having the stronger GPU definitely does help as it allows you to max everything out. You may not need all the power of a 4890 but you will need more ram than that 4850 so a 4870 1GB would do.

 

[Twoboxer]

Twoboxer, have you seen a review of the F3 yet? Logic dictates that it should be like the 500GB seagate 12 series on the charts here and should outperform the Blacks but i havent found a full review of it yet.

I have not read any, Hunter - I was operating on my old set of assumptions.

 

[hunter315]

Damn i was hoping you had found some, i still havent found a review of it yet, hopefully they will do a HDD roundup soon here.

 

[Twoboxer]

If you are running @1920, you might want a better card because it will work for all games at that resolution. Even if Aion doesn't need it. Because 6 months from now when you tire of Aion, there'll be another game . . .

If you are buying today, you'd buy a 4890. And as a result you'd have an absolutely top of the line gamin' rig. For today.

If you can wait just a bit - no more than 30 days certainly - you will be able to buy prolly a 5850/70 or whatever which will (prolly) work for you at 1920 and also support DX11.

 

[Guest]

So instead of the 4850 i just replace with 4890 or will the 4890 not comply with other components?

 

[hunter315]

The 4890 will work fine, but if you want to run a second one you will need a power supply upgrade.

 

[Guest]

so total is going to be $975 not bad but hopefully i can get the money together

 

[gofastlemon]

i built my wifes pc for WAY less than $900, and it runs AION on MAX settings, with no Overclock, at 1920x1080 resoultion and outputs sound thru hdmi.

i think the only setting she has turned down is shadows...if that...

get ready for this...

coolermaster case with CM460w power supply $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119208


Seagate Barracuda 250gb $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148451

ATI 4770 (AWSOME little card with low power consumption) $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102835

4gb (2x2gb) OCZ ddr2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227248

gigabyte g31 matx board (I've had GREAT experiences with this board and customer budget gaming and home office builds)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128357

E6300 2.8ghz dual core (45nm 65w, 2mb l2 cache..decent overclocker...but doesn't need it for aion)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116091

Vista home premium 64bit w/ free windows 7 upgrade
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677


in cart it is $532. so you will have some shipping... but not much. still WAY less than $900

I play WoW and Aion... I suggest you use the extra money to buy a 20"+ acer lcd 1680x1050 and a belkin n52te (GOD i love this thing!)

Acer 20" 1680x1050 $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009143

Belkin N52TE speedpad $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826169019


STILL ONLY $722... with a nice monitor and the BELKIN...that you won't be able to play without once you start...

and still have $168 for whatever.....which could do a lot of things



so recap... for $722 you get a VERY capable budget gaming rig with a 20" higher resolution monitor and speedpad. and 64bit OS (we're running windows 7 on it now, and its CONSIDERABLY more efficient/faster than WinXP x64)

 

[zudike121]

i'd suggest
Intel i3-3220 Core i3 Processor, 3.3GHz, LGA1155, Dual Core, 4 Threads 3MB Cache, Integrated Graphics, Hyper Threading, VT-x, SpeedStep, TDP 55W :CPU

Gigabyte / Z77 / 4 x DDR3 / 3 x PCI-E3.0 x 16 / 2 x SATA3 / 4 x USB3.0 / HDMI / D-Sub / DVI-D / GBLAN / RAID / mATX :motherboard

Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Unbuffered DIMM Memory for AMD, Intel Dual Channel DDR3. :RAM

Palit GF GT640 PCI-E 2.0, 1GB 128-bit DDR3, 900 / 1782 MHz ,VGA, HDMI, DVI, Fan :video card

HGST Travelstar Z5K500 -- 2.5'' / 500GB / SATA 3GB/s / 5400RPM / 8MB :hardrive

650W "Aywun" MEGA POWER Elite Series 80PLUS Certified Power Supply : power supply

it is basic but should run aion well and its within ur budget i believe