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rangers   10-05-2009 at 01:35:38 PM

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I'd like to point out that the whole "fighting" with nvidia this way may look like we really interested in PhysX and are helping it to live further as a standart. Although i don't want to support it, i'd like to support people who wants to utilize their hardware the way they need/like.



there you go for win7 only, nvidia are going to be so pissed


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JeanLuc   10-05-2009 at 01:36:52 PM
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Do you have link for us?

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gamerk316   10-05-2009 at 02:00:28 PM
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So basically, ATI could have done this themselves, right?

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-05-2009 at 02:04:03 PM
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gamerk316 wrote :

So basically, ATI could have done this themselves, right?


I don't know about that, surely there has to be some sort of fiddling with the competitors software infringement law that would be broken?

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Techno-boy   10-05-2009 at 02:08:23 PM
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Actually, ATI does not really need PhysX because I heard that AMD announced about Open Physics Initiative Designed based on OpenCL and DirectX 11 and that AMD also has a collaboration with Pixelux Entertainment which already has its Physics Engine such as "DMM" (Digital Molecular Matter). Unlike NVIDIA's PhysX or NVIDIA's Proprietary Physics, these new Physics Engine would be Open Physics so anyone can use it and perhaps can also re-modify it since it is based on OpenCL and DirectX 11. NVIDIA was keeping its PhysX Physics as proprietary physics because it does not wanted its rivals like ATI/AMD and Intel to use it for free but maybe only if other companies has permission or license from NVIDIA in order to be able to use PhysX.

 

Here is the link of the article:

 

http://www.amd.com/us/press-releas [...] ept30.aspx


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Bronze Graphics badge shadow187   10-05-2009 at 02:09:34 PM
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nVid is digging her own grave.


*Cue background music*

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randomizer   10-05-2009 at 02:22:32 PM
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Title edited to more accurately reflect the subject. PhysX is not running on ATI GPUs.


Message edited by randomizer on 10-05-2009 at 02:23:24 PM
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gamerk316   10-05-2009 at 06:59:17 PM
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I should point out that PhysX is an open standard. NVIDIA implemented it through CUDA, but ATI could have found another way to implement it without having to rely on NVIDIA. PhysX already has the advantage of being ported to consoles, so the devs are already more or less familliar with it.

Frankly, until I see the OpenCL API and the resulting physics set, I'm staying neutral. All I know is what PhysX is capable of should it ever get decent support.

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strangestranger   10-05-2009 at 07:02:40 PM
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Gamer, just stfu up about this, you have been proven wrong time and time again. Nvidia is about itself and itself only. It is not hardware agnostic so no open standard claim holds water.

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IzzyCraft   10-05-2009 at 07:17:00 PM
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Yup Nvidia is one greedy little mofo but that greed makes them develop good *** and then help everyone use that ***, cuz it's the way it's meant to be played. Although it got them no good friends with intel, amd and ati turning their back on them.

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-06-2009 at 01:05:34 AM
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More like ATi are a bunch of lazy sods who can't be bothered. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/10/03/nvidia-dismisses-amd-s-batman-accusations/1

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rangers   10-06-2009 at 04:31:45 AM
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STFU mousemonkey the crap you come out with sometimes gets right up my nose, dont know how you ever got to be a mod

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-06-2009 at 04:34:13 AM
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rangers wrote :

STFU mousemonkey the crap you come out with sometimes gets right up my nose, dont know how you ever got to be a mod


Ahh, the mysteries of life, eh? ;)

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vjcsmoke   10-06-2009 at 04:44:29 AM
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Actually the reason ATI doesn't do PhysX is because they would have had to pay a licensing fee to Nvidia for every video card they sold that did PhysX. This is the same case with how any motherboard that supports SLI must pay Nvidia a licensing fee. That's why SLI motherboards are more expensive.

It doesn't make any sense for ATI to pay their rival for each video card they sell. That's why you'll never see PhysX built into an ATI video card.

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strangestranger   10-06-2009 at 01:23:22 PM
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Tell me, do you not feel dirty posting here on toms :lol:

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randomizer   10-06-2009 at 02:12:12 PM
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rangers wrote :

STFU mousemonkey the crap you come out with sometimes gets right up my nose, dont know how you ever got to be a mod


I'm sure there are plenty who would say the same about your posts.

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Bronze Graphics badge mousemonkey   10-06-2009 at 02:24:18 PM
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De man from Nvidia he say "bring it on!", well he don't actually say that exactly but they aren't too repentant either.

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AMD was offered a chance to collaborate on PhysX, and it refused, we were reminded, partnering with Intel and failing to cause Havoc instead.


http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=20569&page=1

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nforce4max   10-06-2009 at 08:30:22 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUITn7I9-f0
This video sums it up well about nvidia. "Voltaire vs The Night Before Christmas - When You're Evil!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDil2vELuFc
Robber Baron

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