Samsung A450 32" LCD TV ( 720p ) connected thru DVI
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Ok .. I am playing latest titles like Batman / SF4/ RE5 / Pes 2009 and soon 2010 and all the games I love
Maxxed out @ 1280x720 ( Max TV res. ) and I am very very happy
BUT I am an architect and I use my PC for Rendering ( 3Ds Max ) and I leave it hours and hours running to render and Dual Core is getting a bit too old for that ... Heck I tried to render the same scene on a Quad Core PC and it almost finished 60% faster than mine.
as for graphics I know that the new dx11 cards are in but I am not really sure I want to grab on the whole DX11 early now .. I tried that with 9 and 10 and didn't really find it pleasing enough @ the beginning .
And with newer game titles I am thinking that the CPU / MEMORY are starting to bottleneck my card .. since I've seen reviews where my card is considered the 4th or 5th Fastest Graphics cards on the market ( before the new 5xxx series )
and as I am stuck to 720p resolutions I don't really need the extra Fire power.
So basic and brief .. I am thinking of upgrading my CPU and Memory for now .
what would be best ?
A complete new IntelQuad Core Processor / Mobo and Rams ( The high budget upgrade ) A complete new Phenom X3 / Mobo and Rams ( The Medium budget upgrade ) Just a new Athlon 64 X4 with the same mobo and new rams ( The Low budget upgrade )
provided MSI releases a bios update or confirm my support email that the Athlon X4 would work on my mobo .. since Reviewers say that its compatible with old AM2 mobos .
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So WHY did I BOLD my Monitor Type and Specs ?
Another question really , How safe it is to make the HOME LCD TV as the MAIN GAMING DISPLAY ? I've read so many things about still images / games etc etc damaging LCD TVs ...
Where do I stand from this ? As I don't want to go back to 22" or 19" gaming anymore I am pretty happy ! but I don't want to damage my newly bought TV too !!
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Thanks in advance guys
as Usual please don't rush me with newegg prices and stuff , I live waaay waay far and prices here are almost 60% more expensive than anything you got
Message edited by cryptonx on 09-24-2009 at 11:40:43 AM
Hmm...if you dont want the cheap yet powerful option, then here is a config...
AMD -
CPU -
Athlon II X4 620 or
AMD Phenom II X4 810
Mobo -
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD
RAM - Any DDR2
Intel -
Core2Quad Q8x00 series
Mobo -
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L
RAM -
Any DDR2 RAM
And I would suggest you sell that 2x1GB kit and get 2x2GB kit instead of populating all the 4 slot for getting 4GB RAM...As populating all the 4 slots would reduce the memory bandwidth
There have been newer CPUS from Intel - i5 750, which are in the same price range of the C2Q 9550...But it only supports DDR3 RAM...
And it would be easy to specify parts if you could give any links of websites or online stores in your country, so that we could know what is available...And your budget too...
If the focus is accelerating rendering, hopefully there will be room in your budget for an Intel i7 build. As GKay said though, your budget and possible component sources would be very useful.
thanks alot in advance btw I think the Athlon X4 are out of the picture as they need AM2+ support , mine is only AM2 .
So i will require a new mobo so I might get the cheapest Intel Core 2 Quad unless the Athlon X4 still beats one of these I'd get it with a new mobo as well and still it would be the cheapest option yes not future proof but I really dont care for now .
btw 1 $USD = 5.5 EGP 1 GPB = 8.6 EGP
most products on newegg and stuff are like 60% more expensive here .. so if there's a $100 athlon x4 it would be $160 here and so on ..
Thanks again guys
Message edited by cryptonx on 09-25-2009 at 12:53:52 AM
Intel core 2 is gone. Intel is now making the core i5 and core i7. The core i5 is price competitive with the PhenomIIx4. The core i7 is a quad with hyper-threading that kind of makes it work like 8 cores for multiprocessing jobs. Nothing AMD has will come close to it for rendering.
Hmm...if you dont want the cheap yet powerful option, then here is a config...
AMD -
CPU -
Athlon II X4 620 or
AMD Phenom II X4 810
Mobo -
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD
RAM - Any DDR2
Intel -
Core2Quad Q8x00 series
Mobo -
GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L
RAM -
Any DDR2 RAM
And I would suggest you sell that 2x1GB kit and get 2x2GB kit instead of populating all the 4 slot for getting 4GB RAM...As populating all the 4 slots would reduce the memory bandwidth
Message edited by gkay09 on 09-25-2009 at 11:37:41 AM
Intel core 2 is gone. Intel is now making the core i5 and core i7. The core i5 is price competitive with the PhenomIIx4. The core i7 is a quad with hyper-threading that kind of makes it work like 8 cores for multiprocessing jobs. Nothing AMD has will come close to it for rendering.
I never really liked Intel .. its a personal favoring not fanyboyism
But I regret getting an ATi instead of Nvidia
I first got the X1950 PRO and now the HD4850 which are great and kick some nvidia butt on paper .. but with crappy drivers from AMD .. I am starting to think I'd should go back with Nvidia .
For the AMD PC, get the DDR2 1066MHz...they would utilize the extra speed...But for Intel stick withe DDR2 800...They dont utilize speeds above 800MHz unless you want to overclock them...
Another AMD alternative - X4 940...
And the mobo that I linked is not AM3...So it wont support DDR3, which is more upgradeable...As you dont mind future-proofing the rig, then stick with DDR2...
And as for using an LCD TV for gaming, I dont see any issues with that except that if your LCD TV has a slower response time, it would lead to ghosting...
For the AMD PC, get the DDR2 1066MHz...they would utilize the extra speed...But for Intel stick withe DDR2 800...They dont utilize speeds above 800MHz unless you want to overclock them...
Another AMD alternative - X4 940...
And the mobo that I linked is not AM3...So it wont support DDR3, which is more upgradeable...As you dont mind future-proofing the rig, then stick with DDR2...
And as for using an LCD TV for gaming, I dont see any issues with that except that if your LCD TV has a slower response time, it would lead to ghosting...
Thankte mate you're a life (money?) saver
Nah i didn't really get any ghosting or notice it at least .. it has a 5ms response time .
I will post info / price / pics when I upgrade thanks alot again .