SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming only
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US
PARTS PREFERENCES: I'm leaning towards intel
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: The most demanding game I'm planning to run at the moment is Age of Conan. I also want to be able to run older games like Oblivion, WOW, Titan's Quest, Warcraft 3, etc. I'm interested in learning how to do some game modding as well.
You could put together a nice i5 system for about $800. 4870 is a good choice for your current games. I wouldn't even recommend getting anything better than a 4870 unless you upgrade your monitor, 1680x1050 resolution won't be all that demanding for a single 4870.
Thanks, wathman. Cheaper is always better, naturally. I have a couple of questions:
Power supply. If I plan to run an i5 CPU, and single ATI 4870 graphics card, what sort of PSU do I need? A friend recommended 1000W+ for future upgradability, but that feels like it may be overkill? Note: I'll probably upgrade to the latest graphics card next year that is in the same price point as the 4870 now (maybe a 5xxx card) - not sure if power requirements will change drastically.
RAM. I was planning on going for 8GB of RAM. I see a lot of builds on here with only 4GB. Will the extra 4GB make a significant impact on games?
yeah, 1000 is a bit overboard. Those PSUs only exist because there are some people out there who want to do quad graphics card setups, and extreme overclocks. A 550 Watt PSU will probably be enough to power your system, 650Watts would give you enough headroom if you plan on staying with single GPU configurations. 750 would be plenty for affordable Crossfire/SLI setups. I like the Corsair 650TX for it's quality and price. There's other good brands out there, but Corsair is probably the most recommended one on these boards.
for RAM, you really won't see much improvement by getting more that 4 at this time. Most games won't run all that much better with more RAM than they can allocate, faster RAM is a better investment and will have some impact on performance.
I'd check the reviews first on the coolermaster PSU. They make great cases, but their PSUs haven't been up to par in the past. This may have changed recently. Also, you're comparing the HAF 922 to the Antec 1200, the HAF 932 is a full tower like the Antec 1200. You might want to consider the Antec 900 and possible combos there.
I took another look at the cases. the antec 300 you mentioned is quite a bit cheaper. considering that i don't plan to do any crazy overclocking or multi-graphics card setups, do you think the antec 300 would meet my needs? i want a quality case that will last, but i don't know if i really need the size of the full tower 1200, or even the 900.
The main concern with cases is if it will fit everything you want to put in it. There are little extras that are nice to have in the more expensive cases, but they become more important if you want to tweak stuff or do upgrades. The Antec 300 should be a good choice.
thanks! for the PSU, I saw that the Corsair 620HX ($139) got a great review on hardocp.com. Do you think the modularity is worth the $40 price premium over the 650TX model ($99)? Does a modular PSU reduce heat significantly or is it a mere convenience factor when initially building the system? I don't plan to tinker with my box much so i'm not too worried about a few extra cables making installation of parts a bit harder.
Ok, I think I have this figured out at last. I decided not to wait for the 5850 because it doesn't sound like it will actually be available until late next month, at the earliest, and will likely cost $260+ where as the 4890 is $190 now and will handle everything I want to use it for. I can always upgrade next year.
Here are the parts I've selected. Any feedback or advice on parts that may not work together would be appreciated. Also, please let me know if you think I missed anything. Note: I already have the OS, Monitor, Keyboard, and Mouse. The only thing I'm missing are speakers. Thanks!
Cables: OKGeare SATA II Cable 10" ($6 - getting three of these for OEM optical drive and two OEM HDs)
I went with 8GB of RAM because I feel a little more comfortable having extra even if 4GB is sufficient for most gaming scenarios. This brings me to a total of ~$1100 for what seams like a reasonable, mid-range gaming system. Thoughts? I'd like to order today
Message edited by briggs32 on 09-24-2009 at 08:38:00 PM
you don't need a sata cable the drives and board come with a bunch and modular, only has better cable management and looks better, only advantage, maybe add a cpu cooler?
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is the stock cooler not sufficient if you overclock? what would you recommend? i don't mind spending a bit here if it will help with the stability of the system (i have heard stories of builds being unstable due to heat issues - will i have to worry about this with the i5 chip?)
If you are looking at the antec 300, look at the antec 300 illusion. Its the same case with two front 120mm fans included and usually is only about the cost of one fan different.
*edit your text only says Antec 300, but that is the link to the 300 Illusion. Good choice.
Message edited by dndhatcher on 09-24-2009 at 09:37:42 PM
cool, thanks. I was looking at prices again, and I'd save about $40 by stepping down to a 4870. Is the 4890 worth the extra $$? The benchmarks I've seen indicate ~10% improvement.
the 4890 is just a massaged 4870 but the 4890 is clocked higher the 4890 linked can clock well with the vapor x cooling but if you want you can step down to the xfx 4870 the reference design one
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